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England v Spain: Euro 2024 Final, 14 July

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  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,516

  • AllHailTheHen
    AllHailTheHen Posts: 3,065
    Heart says England. Head says Spain but that's based more on how the 2 teams have played so far in this tournament.  If we really go for it I honestly think we have the better team and will win. Big if though.
  • tangoflash
    tangoflash Posts: 10,786
    I'm still struggling to get my head around the KO being at 8pm (9pm in Berlin) on a Sunday. Madness
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,771
    Strangely, I don't think an early goal will help us. Midway through the second half will do nicely.
  • CAFCTrev
    CAFCTrev Posts: 6,002
    If we score early we are fucked.
  • Stu_of_Kunming
    Stu_of_Kunming Posts: 17,122
    Belly full of nerves already 
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,892
    Belly full of nerves already 
    Probably the local cuisine 
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,016
    England will be 2 nil up at Half time. 
    You heard it here first. 
    And 3-2 down at full time.
  • O-Randy-Hunt
    O-Randy-Hunt Posts: 10,705
    Strangely, I don't think an early goal will help us. Midway through the second half will do nicely.
    No strangely about it. It didn't help us against Croatia. It didn't help us against Italy.

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  • CafcWest
    CafcWest Posts: 6,182
    edited July 2024
    I think our only chance is if if goes to penalties.  Its a big IF as Spain have won every game so far and are playing flowing, attacking, exciting football.  I think 2-1 or maybe 3-1 to Spain but I hope I'm wrong.  I actually bet on Spain to win the competion a few months ago - so if England win - great - if Spain win then at least I get some compensation...!
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,196
    Spain due a pony one and we’re due a decent performance, it’s ours … I still believe 
  • Spain due a pony one and we’re due a decent performance, it’s ours … I still believe 
    Whilst you wouldn’t think so just looking at who they’ve beaten on the way to the final, However, I think they’ve actually had an easier route to get here than England. The last game was against France and once Mbappe was hurt in that earlier round France basically lost their way. In the quarter final Spain played Germany who, imo, never looked convincing from the start of the tournament (when they beat a 10 man Scotland team). Basically, from the start Spain hasn’t had to dig deep so far and as a result I suspect if England pick up from where they left off then Spain may well wobble. Kane is overdue a hat trick in this tournament and his first medal. Today’s the day for him and England.
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,492
    We can't just go 1-0 up, we need the 2nd and 3rd. 

    If we go 1-0 up and sit back, we lose. 
  • Algarveaddick
    Algarveaddick Posts: 21,175
    MrWalker said:
    Map showing which country is supporting which tomorrow. 
    Disappointed with Malta, frankly.

    I saw a random facebook page that has posted this, the strength of support for England from all around Europe and the rest of the world in the comments (including from Scotland, Wales and Ireland!) was phenomenal.  
  • Brownie12
    Brownie12 Posts: 1,532
    MrWalker said:
    Map showing which country is supporting which tomorrow. 
    Disappointed with Malta, frankly.

    Shame all of there countries are sat at home watching it really. 
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,072
    Spain due a pony one and we’re due a decent performance, it’s ours … I still believe 
    Whilst you wouldn’t think so just looking at who they’ve beaten on the way to the final, However, I think they’ve actually had an easier route to get here than England. The last game was against France and once Mbappe was hurt in that earlier round France basically lost their way. In the quarter final Spain played Germany who, imo, never looked convincing from the start of the tournament (when they beat a 10 man Scotland team). Basically, from the start Spain hasn’t had to dig deep so far and as a result I suspect if England pick up from where they left off then Spain may well wobble. Kane is overdue a hat trick in this tournament and his first medal. Today’s the day for him and England.
    That’s an amazing level of delusion. Spain have beaten Croatia, Italy, Germany and France. England have beaten Vatican City, Lesotho, Charlton Park Under 12’s and that island Lyle Taylor played for. England haven’t remotely played anyone as good as Spain yet. 
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,237
    Chunes said:
    We saw against the Dutch that if you let us play, we can tear you to shreds. The Spanish only play one way, they're always open. I think if we can get our key players on the ball, in space, we'll have a very good game. And I might be wrong but can't see why that wouldn't happen. 

    This is so wrong.
    Spain have conceded 3 goals in six matches and won all the games and scored 13 goals.

    Gareth Southgate will try to negate Spain unless he changes from being Tony Pulis into Jürgen Klopp.
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,342
    Spain had arguably the toughest group and then the toughest run to the final you can get, until the Netherlands we played a bunch of dogged but average nations
  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 9,760
    I'm still struggling to get my head around the KO being at 8pm (9pm in Berlin) on a Sunday. Madness
    It’s been like that since 2004 although 2004-2012 were 8.45 pm kick offs rather than 9pm.

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  • ken_shabby
    ken_shabby Posts: 6,271

  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,827
    edited July 2024
    England drew with Switzerland in 90 mins who drew with Germany in 90 mins who drew with Spain in 90 mins.

    England beat Netherlands 2-1. Spain beat France 2-1. Netherlands and France drew 0-0. Netherlands might’ve won that 1-0 but for a controversial VAR decision.

    Forget what happened in the group stage for either team - the quarter final and semi final results suggest this is going to be a very tight game.
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,348
    sam3110 said:
    Spain had arguably the toughest group and then the toughest run to the final you can get, until the Netherlands we played a bunch of dogged but average nations
    Every team England has played is currently ranked lower in the FIFA rankings than England.  Including the Final. 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,728
    edited July 2024
    Chizz said:
    sam3110 said:
    Spain had arguably the toughest group and then the toughest run to the final you can get, until the Netherlands we played a bunch of dogged but average nations
    Every team England has played is currently ranked lower in the FIFA rankings than England.  Including the Final. 
    To be fair, only France and Belgium are ranked above us... and will be surprised if the latter remain ahead of us, regardless what happens tonight - Given that Brazil are also out of the Copa America, I imagine we'll be 3rd in the Rankings after the Euros as the gap between us in 5th, and Belgium in 3rd was already very minimal.

    Not that the rankings really mean much.
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,348
    Chizz said:
    sam3110 said:
    Spain had arguably the toughest group and then the toughest run to the final you can get, until the Netherlands we played a bunch of dogged but average nations
    Every team England has played is currently ranked lower in the FIFA rankings than England.  Including the Final. 
    To be fair, only France and Belgium are ranked above us... and will be surprised if the latter remain ahead of us, regardless what happens tonight - Given that Brazil are also out of the Copa America, I imagine we'll be 3rd in the Rankings after the Euros as the gap between us in 5th, and Belgium in 3rd was already very minimal.

    Not that the rankings really mean much.
    It was a surprise to me when I saw that stat.  Have there been any other tournaments when we have only played team below us in the rankings?
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,728
    Chizz said:
    Chizz said:
    sam3110 said:
    Spain had arguably the toughest group and then the toughest run to the final you can get, until the Netherlands we played a bunch of dogged but average nations
    Every team England has played is currently ranked lower in the FIFA rankings than England.  Including the Final. 
    To be fair, only France and Belgium are ranked above us... and will be surprised if the latter remain ahead of us, regardless what happens tonight - Given that Brazil are also out of the Copa America, I imagine we'll be 3rd in the Rankings after the Euros as the gap between us in 5th, and Belgium in 3rd was already very minimal.

    Not that the rankings really mean much.
    It was a surprise to me when I saw that stat.  Have there been any other tournaments when we have only played team below us in the rankings?
    Euro 2016 springs to mind... 
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,401
    edited July 2024
    Chunes said:
    We saw against the Dutch that if you let us play, we can tear you to shreds. The Spanish only play one way, they're always open. I think if we can get our key players on the ball, in space, we'll have a very good game. And I might be wrong but can't see why that wouldn't happen. 

    This is so wrong.
    Spain have conceded 3 goals in six matches and won all the games and scored 13 goals.
    I'm not sure how your follow-up argument disproves the point but that's your opinion and that's all good. In the games I've seen, Spain don't sit back narrow and soak up pressure. They press high and are always wide. The last 10-15 mins against France - where they were already winning - was the best demonstration. Either way I don't have much interest in getting into an argument about how Spain play. 
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,492

  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,237


    Ok, at least the female security is keeping about the waist but there's definitely a stray hand below giving some hand relief 😁
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,381
    edited July 2024
    the bleedin obvious .. we need to stop their dangerous young wingers, also down their left Cucurella (cuckoo cuckoo) has been a revelation as attacker, defender and getting away with hand ball merchant.
    We can stop their midfield which France absolutely failed to do and i m o their defence is their weak spot
    I hope the referee clamps down early on Rodri's Man Citteee tactic of little niggling fouls to prevent our break outs from defence, though I doubt that the officials will until abut his sixth little foul.

    VERY VERY tight game, could go all the way to a penalty shoot out, England Bring Home The Bacon and annoy all the vegetarians and vegans across the UK 
    Bank Holiday when we win ? .. yes, BUT only in England