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Next England Manager - Thomas Tuchel

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  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,952
    I'd take Pochettino.

    Good at moulding youngsters into a decent team, and we've got a young team.
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,560
    I’d want Howe. Suspect it will be Potter. 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    edited July 2024
    Lee Carsley - International Manager, knows how to win these types of competitions.

    Think the best route is to blood a young Manager via. the U21s and then promote them to the Senior Squad, if they prove good enough - The pressure is off, and they get to learn the experience of Management at this level.

    Wanting a Club Manager with a successful CV, risks resorting to the last 30-years of failure.
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,260
    Lee Carsley, after 2026 WC after Southgate stays on for another 2 years
  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,484
    Someone that don't stifle the flare of these young players. Which would probably be a foreigner, lookng at the names being mentioned.
  • BartramBlitz
    BartramBlitz Posts: 675
    I reckon that photo of Appleton will appear within 10 minutes.
    Somone to throw darts at. It had to be done t to take away the pain. However low you feel, it felt worse when he was in charge.
  • Southbank
    Southbank Posts: 5,252
    Let's pick a winner as manager next. Southgate has never won anything major as a player or manager bar one League Cup. He is out of his depth with the young players around him and only still manager because the FA suits like his media friendly image.

  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    Southbank said:
    Let's pick a winner as manager next. Southgate has never won anything major as a player or manager bar one League Cup. He is out of his depth with the young players around him and only still manager because the FA suits like his media friendly image.

    We've had winners as Manager... Capello / Erikson even Hodgson... How did that go?
  • Nicholas
    Nicholas Posts: 7,627
    Get Eddie Howe in before he is sacked at Newcastle for some shit Italian manager has beem
  • SantaClaus
    SantaClaus Posts: 7,651
    Give it to Sir Chris.
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  • cafcpolo
    cafcpolo Posts: 3,811
    Gribbo said:
    Someone that don't stifle the flare of these young players. Which would probably be a foreigner, lookng at the names being mentioned.
    This. Get in Klopp. Or dare I say it because weirdly, I think he'd be great as a national coach...Mourinho.
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,849
    MarcusH26 said:
    It's the FA I wouldn't be surprised if they've got Potter ready to go if Southgate goes. I'd put a call into Poch and see if there's any interest from him but I can't see him being interested. 
    The bloke who managed to not win Ligue Un with PSG? 
  • CAFCTrev
    CAFCTrev Posts: 5,977

  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,331

  • BigRedEvil
    BigRedEvil Posts: 11,071
    If its an English coach it's got to be Howe, no one else comes close. 
  • DaveMehmet
    DaveMehmet Posts: 21,598
    edited July 2024
    No one with an affiliations to the stripey c***s 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,844
    We can all look at the big names, but look at Spain. Maybe an England youth coach like Carsley is the best approach.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    edited July 2024
    We can all look at the big names, but look at Spain. Maybe an England youth coach like Carsley is the best approach.
    Scaloni as well... the latest winners of the World Cup and Euros have had meh Managerial CVs

    Yet once again the majority of England fans will be going: "Ooo he's got to have done it with a club team"
  • Steve Evans
    You say that Henry the technical area is looking a lot larger these days.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    edited July 2024
    Yes to Carsley - we’ve got the formula, keep it intact.

    Scaloni, Southgate, De La Fuente… all have in common that they managed in the youth system before taking the top job. Southgate the only one of those three who hasn’t won but he’s got really really close.

    Going back a few more years to 2018 & 2014 World Cup winners France & Spain… Deschamps, Low - neither of them really had any kind of impressive club pedigree before taking their teams to glory.



    Who was the last bloke to win a major tournament who was also a successful club manager beforehand? You’re probably looking at Vicente del Bosque?
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  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,767
    Gribbo said:
    Someone that don't stifle the flare of these young players. Which would probably be a foreigner, lookng at the names being mentioned.
    I'm not sure that Eddie Howe stifles flair? In the last two seasons Newcastle drew 3-3 with City and amongst their wins were Fulham (4-1), Brentford (5-1), Villa (4-0), Southampton (4-1), Leicester (3-0), West Ham (5-1), Spurs (6-1), Brighton (4-1), Villa (5-1), Sheffield United (8-0), PSG (4-1), Palace (4-0), Man Utd (3-0), Chelsea (4-1), Fulham (3-0), Spurs (4-0), Sheffield United (5-1), Brentford (4-2), Burnley (4-1), Wolves (3-0) and West Ham (4-3).

    You have to have to allow the players to play to do all of that. A lot of those that have excelled under Howe are young in footballing terms too - the likes of Isak (24), Gordon (23), Miley (18), Livramento (21), Hall (19) and Anderson (21).     
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,952
    Yes to Carsley - we’ve got the formula, keep it intact.

    Scaloni, Southgate, De La Fuente… all have in common that they managed in the youth system before taking the top job. Southgate the only one of those three who hasn’t won but he’s got really really close.

    Going back a few more years to 2018 & 2014 World Cup winners France & Spain… Deschamps, Low - neither of them really had any kind of impressive club pedigree before taking their teams to glory.



    Who was the last bloke to win a major tournament who was also a successful club manager beforehand? You’re probably looking at Vicente del Bosque?
    He'd won the league as a manager and got Monaco to a Champions League final.
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,459
    THE hardest job in football.
    I have absolutely no idea. Whoever's chosen is doomed to failure.
    We are just not very good. We rode our luck in 66 and have dined off it, to extraordinary levels ever since.
    We've tried everything. From the ultra successful disciplinarian Cappello to the softly softly players mate Southgate.Nothing works

    Good luck to anyone trying to have a go. The impossible job.
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    cafcpolo said:
    I think it'll be Potter.
     
    Howe would be a good option but not sure he'd take it.

    Can't see us going for a foreign manager, which we should consider if a good one is available and wants it, but won't.

    Definitely won't get someone like Klopp.
    Too soon for Howe. He sees it as the last role you'd take before stepping out of the game.

    Eddie Howe has been a manager for 17 years in every division up to Premier. 
    At 46 he would play a brand of football to get the best out of our attacking players including Gordon !
    Palmer would start more games.
  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,484
    Gribbo said:
    Someone that don't stifle the flare of these young players. Which would probably be a foreigner, lookng at the names being mentioned.
    I'm not sure that Eddie Howe stifles flair? In the last two seasons Newcastle drew 3-3 with City and amongst their wins were Fulham (4-1), Brentford (5-1), Villa (4-0), Southampton (4-1), Leicester (3-0), West Ham (5-1), Spurs (6-1), Brighton (4-1), Villa (5-1), Sheffield United (8-0), PSG (4-1), Palace (4-0), Man Utd (3-0), Chelsea (4-1), Fulham (3-0), Spurs (4-0), Sheffield United (5-1), Brentford (4-2), Burnley (4-1), Wolves (3-0) and West Ham (4-3).

    You have to have to allow the players to play to do all of that. A lot of those that have excelled under Howe are young in footballing terms too - the likes of Isak (24), Gordon (23), Miley (18), Livramento (21), Hall (19) and Anderson (21).     
    Eddie Howe it is then
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    edited July 2024
    Yes to Carsley - we’ve got the formula, keep it intact.

    Scaloni, Southgate, De La Fuente… all have in common that they managed in the youth system before taking the top job. Southgate the only one of those three who hasn’t won but he’s got really really close.

    Going back a few more years to 2018 & 2014 World Cup winners France & Spain… Deschamps, Low - neither of them really had any kind of impressive club pedigree before taking their teams to glory.



    Who was the last bloke to win a major tournament who was also a successful club manager beforehand? You’re probably looking at Vicente del Bosque?
    He'd won the league as a manager and got Monaco to a Champions League final.
    Sure that’s the biggest stretch of the lot but when he took the France job in 2012 he’d just been let go by Marseille for massive underperformance and his managerial club career was in the toilet. We did the same around the same time by appointing Hodgson…
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 10,934
    Klopp. All day.

    Imagine him with these players. And he knows how to win stuff.
  • Billyboy
    Billyboy Posts: 518
    Poch
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,881
    Has Southgate gone? Only just left the pub
  • Carter
    Carter Posts: 14,242
    Southgate hasn't gone, he is probably pig sick of getting us deeper into tournaments and being shredded by people who are never in danger of taking a job 

    I'm not overly enamoured with how we have played this tournament but to be talking about an Argentinian or a German to manage the national side is mental. No, absolutely not. 

    Replacing Southgate with Potter is a colossal roll of the dice as is trying to prise Howe away from Newcastle.