Otto Rehaggel (German) won the Euros coaching Greece in 2004, so proving that there's nothing in a non national's DNA that prevents them from achieving success coaching another country's players. See more recently our own women's team success!
I don't suppose the celebrations in Greece were tempered by his nationality, nor the achievement undermined by it, yet I'm sure they are as proud and patriotic about their nation as we are of ours.
Disappointed that we have appointed a non English manager to manage the England national team (as I was with Eriksson and Capello).
My only interest in football now is Charlton and my boys team. Stopped watching Premier and England games so my disappointment is balanced with the fact that I don't really care.
Bah humbug.
Edit. Actually I do care - otherwise I wouldn't have posted...
I notice in their rush to slam this appointment, the Daily Mail have turned around and described Sven Goran Eriksson as a “mercenary” only weeks after he passed away.
First piece of good news is it's annoyed and wound up The Daily Fail and it's readers! Job done! I think this is a good choice and the contract is fairly short, let's get behind him and get this "footballs coming home" mantra finally through the door!
I think it's diabolical. Call me old fashioned but how can we genuinely feel happy about a GERMAN managing the national team? if Gareth Southgate was made Argentina manager, i reckon they'd riot.
This should be a wake up call for the FA to lower its coaching badge prices. Countries like Spain charge a lot less and have multiple times the amount of qualified coaches we do, Germany the same.
Unfortunately it won’t.
its not just the FA to lower costs, its also the PL club giving English Manager's a chance. Sadly mate neither are going to happen
Germany and Argentina for me are our rivals at international level, I'm sure they don't see it the same as their rivalry with Italy or Holland, Brazil etc but how batshit mental me and my mates have gone whenever we've beaten Germany or the Argies tells me there is a thing there. I couldn't have had Pochettino purely based on his nationality which I accept is small minded of me however I still hold a grudge against Scott Parker that isn't showing any signs of going.
On account of the bare cupboard of English candidates I'm happy with Tuchel having slept on it
Best thing about this appointment is all the rampant racists and xenophobics rearing their ugly heads, makes it really easy to unfriend/unfollow a load of people on socials
I think it's diabolical. Call me old fashioned but how can we genuinely feel happy about a GERMAN managing the national team? if Gareth Southgate was made Argentina manager, i reckon they'd riot.
So you think we should be more like the people who would riot?
I Just hope the Vile right wing papers such as The Mail , The Sun and The Express give the guy a chance at tournament times but it’s unlikely . Thankfully the paper versions of these rags will be redundant in a few years but I’m sure they will peddle their racist hatred on social media instead .
I remember how awfully Bobby Robson was treated by them and he was English through and through .
I Just hope the Vile right wing papers such as The Mail , The Sun and The Express give the guy a chance at tournament times but it’s unlikely . Thankfully the paper versions of these rags will be redundant in a few years but I’m sure they will peddle their racist hatred on social media instead .
I remember how awfully Bobby Robson was treated by them and he was English through and through .
Best thing about this appointment is all the rampant racists and xenophobics rearing their ugly heads, makes it really easy to unfriend/unfollow a load of people on socials
I don’t really see it as racist or xenophobic.
It’s borderline an illness now. The idea that somehow a foreigner won’t do his job to the full extent because of where his mum squeezed him out.
What do they think wins trophies? Reciting the national anthem so loud you burst a blood vessel in your forehead? Crying each time the Queen is mentioned? Eating pie and mash? Just odd.
Best thing about this appointment is all the rampant racists and xenophobics rearing their ugly heads, makes it really easy to unfriend/unfollow a load of people on socials
I don’t really see it as racist or xenophobic.
It’s borderline an illness now. The idea that somehow a foreigner won’t do his job to the full extent because of where his mum squeezed him out.
What do they think wins trophies? Reciting the national anthem so loud you burst a blood vessel in your forehead? Crying each time the Queen is mentioned? Eating pie and mash? Just odd.
There’s definitely been some people using it as an excuse to be xenophobic even if the idea itself isn’t
Best thing about this appointment is all the rampant racists and xenophobics rearing their ugly heads, makes it really easy to unfriend/unfollow a load of people on socials
I don’t really see it as racist or xenophobic.
It’s borderline an illness now. The idea that somehow a foreigner won’t do his job to the full extent because of where his mum squeezed him out.
What do they think wins trophies? Reciting the national anthem so loud you burst a blood vessel in your forehead? Crying each time the Queen is mentioned? Eating pie and mash? Just odd.
There’s definitely been some people using it as an excuse to be xenophobic even if the idea itself isn’t
I actually haven’t seen too much of it to be fair. The daily mail are doing their best with the headlines but not sure it’s getting through.
If we had a Millwall legend as a manager, for some it would be "It's OK, he's one of us now" when we were winning and "Feck off you spanner ****" when we lost.
It will be the same with TT, just a certain England players became Black, (I'm being polite here) , in the eyes of some morons, when they missed penalties in the Euro finals.
Best thing about this appointment is all the rampant racists and xenophobics rearing their ugly heads, makes it really easy to unfriend/unfollow a load of people on socials
I don’t really see it as racist or xenophobic.
It’s borderline an illness now. The idea that somehow a foreigner won’t do his job to the full extent because of where his mum squeezed him out.
What do they think wins trophies? Reciting the national anthem so loud you burst a blood vessel in your forehead? Crying each time the Queen is mentioned? Eating pie and mash? Just odd.
I find it strange that the England men's football manager is held up as this weird last bastion of that attitude too.
Wiegman was fine for the women's team, Fletcher/Flower/Bayliss for the cricket team, no one batted.an eyelid when Eddie Jones was appointed for the rugby team. We've got foreign coaches in all sorts of Olympic sports, great, fine, we're just getting the best and maximising the chances of medals.
But the England men's football team manager specifically has to be English?
Best thing about this appointment is all the rampant racists and xenophobics rearing their ugly heads, makes it really easy to unfriend/unfollow a load of people on socials
I don’t really see it as racist or xenophobic.
It’s borderline an illness now. The idea that somehow a foreigner won’t do his job to the full extent because of where his mum squeezed him out.
What do they think wins trophies? Reciting the national anthem so loud you burst a blood vessel in your forehead? Crying each time the Queen is mentioned? Eating pie and mash? Just odd.
I find it strange that the England men's football manager is held up as this weird last bastion of that attitude too.
Wiegman was fine for the women's team, Fletcher/Flower/Bayliss for the cricket team, no one batted.an eyelid when Eddie Jones was appointed for the rugby team. We've got foreign coaches in all sorts of Olympic sports, great, fine, we're just getting the best and maximising the chances of medals.
But the England men's football team manager specifically has to be English?
Best thing about this appointment is all the rampant racists and xenophobics rearing their ugly heads, makes it really easy to unfriend/unfollow a load of people on socials
I don’t really see it as racist or xenophobic.
It’s borderline an illness now. The idea that somehow a foreigner won’t do his job to the full extent because of where his mum squeezed him out.
What do they think wins trophies? Reciting the national anthem so loud you burst a blood vessel in your forehead? Crying each time the Queen is mentioned? Eating pie and mash? Just odd.
I find it strange that the England men's football manager is held up as this weird last bastion of that attitude too.
Wiegman was fine for the women's team, Fletcher/Flower/Bayliss for the cricket team, no one batted.an eyelid when Eddie Jones was appointed for the rugby team. We've got foreign coaches in all sorts of Olympic sports, great, fine, we're just getting the best and maximising the chances of medals.
But the England men's football team manager specifically has to be English?
Totally agree. It's just pure football xenophobia! If he's the best available for the job then so be it! And all the people banging on across SM about being English and the Queen/King, can I remind everyone they are from German stock!!
Best thing about this appointment is all the rampant racists and xenophobics rearing their ugly heads, makes it really easy to unfriend/unfollow a load of people on socials
I don’t really see it as racist or xenophobic.
It’s borderline an illness now. The idea that somehow a foreigner won’t do his job to the full extent because of where his mum squeezed him out.
What do they think wins trophies? Reciting the national anthem so loud you burst a blood vessel in your forehead? Crying each time the Queen is mentioned? Eating pie and mash? Just odd.
I find it strange that the England men's football manager is held up as this weird last bastion of that attitude too.
Wiegman was fine for the women's team, Fletcher/Flower/Bayliss for the cricket team, no one batted.an eyelid when Eddie Jones was appointed for the rugby team. We've got foreign coaches in all sorts of Olympic sports, great, fine, we're just getting the best and maximising the chances of medals.
But the England men's football team manager specifically has to be English?
It’s the fans/customers that dictate that attitude.
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I don't suppose the celebrations in Greece were tempered by his nationality, nor the achievement undermined by it, yet I'm sure they are as proud and patriotic about their nation as we are of ours.
My only interest in football now is Charlton and my boys team. Stopped watching Premier and England games so my disappointment is balanced with the fact that I don't really care.
Bah humbug.
Edit. Actually I do care - otherwise I wouldn't have posted...
I think this is a good choice and the contract is fairly short, let's get behind him and get this "footballs coming home" mantra finally through the door!
On account of the bare cupboard of English candidates I'm happy with Tuchel having slept on it
P’raps that’s why I really can’t stand him………projecting my own insecurities.
BTW it absolutely has zero to do with his nationality and all to do with me thinking he’s just an arse.
It’s borderline an illness now. The idea that somehow a foreigner won’t do his job to the full extent because of where his mum squeezed him out.
It will be the same with TT, just a certain England players became Black, (I'm being polite here) , in the eyes of some morons, when they missed penalties in the Euro finals.
Wiegman was fine for the women's team, Fletcher/Flower/Bayliss for the cricket team, no one batted.an eyelid when Eddie Jones was appointed for the rugby team. We've got foreign coaches in all sorts of Olympic sports, great, fine, we're just getting the best and maximising the chances of medals.
But the England men's football team manager specifically has to be English?
And all the people banging on across SM about being English and the Queen/King, can I remind everyone they are from German stock!!