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Stupidity Pt2

edited July 21 in Not Sports Related
My son has just finished Bexley Grammar
Absolutely nailed his IB.
His maths teacher suggested they meet for a pint this evening.
Class all meet in pub to show their appreciation of his efforts in the class exceeding expectations.
Up pops Mrs Stupid who indicates this is not allowed under guidelines.
FFS, they are all 18 and grown adults.
Teacher comes in and apologised saying he wasn’t allowed to continue the get together.

If they all met in the street tomorrow and suggested having a pint, that would be deemed ok.

Thank fuck my son and his mates can see the idiocies in this schools stance.
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  • R0TW said:
    My son has just finished Bexley Grammar
    Absolutely nailed his IB.
    His maths teacher suggested they meet for a pint this evening.
    Class all meet in pub to show their appreciation of his efforts in the class exceeding expectations.
    Up pops Mrs Stupid who indicates this is not allowed under guidelines.
    FFS, they are all 18 and grown adults.
    Teacher comes in and apologised saying he wasn’t allowed to continue the get together.

    If they all met in the street tomorrow and suggested having a pint, that would be deemed ok.

    Thank fuck my son and his mates can see the idiocies in this schools stance.
    Great Britain today for you..Not sure where you used the word woke though....
  • I changed woke to stupidity in case someone told sir.
  • R0TW said:
    I changed woke to stupidity in case someone told sir.
    You mean the workerists who think this sort of behaviour is acceptable. BTW great post on the ashton thread and 100% agree. 
  • R0TW said:
    I changed woke to stupidity in case someone told sir.
    You assumed the teachers gender
  • Isn’t this a classic example of wokeness ‘gone mad’ though? Woke means being awake to injustice. The line always trotted out in defence of the word woke because who would ever disagree that we should be awake to any injustices or prejudices of the world? If someone is subjected to offensive or racist/homophobic/sexist comments then they should be called out on it - everyone should be awake to the fact that that’s unacceptable. However, people digging out old racist comedy clips from the 60s and telling everyone how disgusting it is is when wokeness goes too far, given that rightly or wrongly, it was deemed acceptable at the time. In this case, we should absolutely be awake to child protection, ensure that all children are kept safe and are not taken advantage of by those in positions of authority. Let’s be awake to that. But a group of consenting 18 year olds who have finished their education having a celebratory drink with their teacher? Again, that’s where it goes too far and people need to get a grip. So I’d say ‘woke’ absolutely is the right term to use here.
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  • edited July 19
    Firstly, congrats to your son @ROTW

    Who was Mrs Stupid?  Sounds like a right jobsworth.

    When we got our A-Level results every Bexley Grammar school teacher came back with us to the Moon & Sixpence in Welling and we all got rather hammered, way back in 1994.  Happy days.

    My daughter just finished her A-Levels at Gravesend Grammar (for Boys - she switched sixth forms from Mayfield Grammar after GCSEs) and the teachers laid on a BBQ on the school premises to celebrate the end of the A-Levels.  I vaguely remember my daughter saying they couldn't go to the pub with them until they'd officially left the school.  I'd have to check what she said though.  Probably safeguarding and all that.  Who knows in this day and age now huh?

    Also intrigued - do they give out the IB results early?  Because thats a massive advantage to those getting their A-Level results on the 17th Aug.  I work in an Academic Department at Imperial College and we're under an embargo that we know the results but we're not allowed to tell anyone or discuss their places with them until the results go public on the 17th.  If we get caught telling anyone, its a major offence and we could get barred from getting the results as early as we do.

    (PS) Was it Mr Watkins?  If so, he was the year below us at school :)
  • cafc999 said:
    seth plum said:
    seth plum said:
    To be woke is to be prepared to stand up to racism.
    AND bore the arse off of everyone...

    There is stuff you just ain't allowed to do,  I would be more worried that the educator in question, didn't realise he would kop shit for it! 
    I don’t find racism against my wife, children or grandchildren particularly boring.
    It is closer to threatening.
    Stay woke everybody, the racists are all around, often in disguise.
    Not seen anyone mention racists in this thread except you, albeit I do agree with what you just said 100%.

    Maybe just stick to the original subject eh?
    I believe the misuse of the word woke as a catch all term diminishes the word as purely (and originally) a word about staying awake to racism.
    Then applying the word ‘woke’ to silly things undermines the strength of the term as being about standing up to racists.
    A teacher being warned or stopped from being over familiar with students is it’s own issue about power relationships and so on, it is nothing to do with wokeness as has been suggested.
  • seth plum said:
    seth plum said:
    seth plum said:
    To be woke is to be prepared to stand up to racism.
    AND bore the arse off of everyone...

    There is stuff you just ain't allowed to do,  I would be more worried that the educator in question, didn't realise he would kop shit for it! 
    I don’t find racism against my wife, children or grandchildren particularly boring.
    It is closer to threatening.
    Stay woke everybody, the racists are all around, often in disguise.
    Professional victim you. Must be such hard work.
    You are wrong.
    Can you explain why you have personalised? Are you a professional attack dog? If you are it must be such hard work.
    Pro victim. Simmer down.
  • Yet another attempt to dehumanise by referring to a person as an ‘it’ I see.
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  • Always found it a bit weird adult teachers wanting to socialise with teenagers, particularly involving alcohol. 
    I’d have a beer with my football manager when I played Kent youth. Personally don’t see the problem.
  • These things can only really be determined on a case by case basis tbh. If the teacher isn't skeezy and respects the necessary boundaries I don't see a problem with it. At my school there was a maths teacher who married a former pupil of his, which always struck me as a bit dicey, even if he was a youngish teacher at the time. But hey, if everyone's an adult, then I don't really see the issue
  • Always found it a bit weird adult teachers wanting to socialise with teenagers, particularly involving alcohol. 
    My school goes K1 through 12 and the A level teachers got pretty upset when we called em all wronguns for going out with the students for graduation. 
  • seth plum said:
    Yet another attempt to dehumanise by referring to a person as an ‘it’ I see.
    Perhaps Stu didn't want to assume your gender identity.
  • Always found it a bit weird adult teachers wanting to socialise with teenagers, particularly involving alcohol. 
    It's interesting as a topic but I wonder if those playing the "woke gone mad" card would view it the same if this were an all girl school and a male teacher suggested his students meet him in the pub after their exams. It could be entirely innocent, and assuming all parties are adults, nothing illegal, but I suspect not.

    There's a residual power imbalance in the teacher/pupil relationship so I can see why it might be frowned upon and subject to some safeguarding measures.

    I say this as someone who was bought beer (when underage) by teachers on a school trip. No one was harmed, no one lost their job but thinking about it it was a pretty daft thing for them to do even back then. 
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