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MATCH THREAD: Cambridge v Charlton Ath: BSMTrophy: Tues 17th Sept 2024: KO 19.10 +post-match p20
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Kanu has added so much to his game but seems to have temporarily lost his killer instinct. He had two glorious chances last night and spurned both. He's always primarily been a goalscorer so would love to see him find that again.5
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I don't think so, he looks like being a very good deputy to Coventry but not enough to displace him entirely and his skills don't really make him a good replacement for Berry or Doherty.wmcf123 said:Haven't read any comments, so forgive me if this has been discussed. I know it's one match but any chance that Taylor has played his way into contention?
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Kanu’s positive enterprise and skill laid a goal on a plate for Godden.
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We scored from a corner on Saturdaygolfaddick said:
I must have been watching a different game to everyone else. Second half Taylor started to play his corners along the ground to our player on the near post. Whether the idea is to then play it back to Taylor for a cross back into the box we'll never know as it never got back to Taylor.Southbank said:
Indeed, his free kicks and corners are better but he is not as imposing or front foot as Coventry. Doubt there is room for both in the same 11.mendonca said:The only reason we've not seen Taylor is because it appears that he plays in the exact position that Coventry does.
Why cant we just stick the ball into the box for a player to thump in a header ala Arsenal against Spurs on Sunday. Haven't seen that in years.8 -
Well to be fair we did that in our last league game. Jones' header was probably going in without Ahadme's intervention and either way it's a goal from a corner so you only really have to go back 4 days. Which isn't too bad really.golfaddick said:
I must have been watching a different game to everyone else. Second half Taylor started to play his corners along the ground to our player on the near post. Whether the idea is to then play it back to Taylor for a cross back into the box we'll never know as it never got back to Taylor.Southbank said:
Indeed, his free kicks and corners are better but he is not as imposing or front foot as Coventry. Doubt there is room for both in the same 11.mendonca said:The only reason we've not seen Taylor is because it appears that he plays in the exact position that Coventry does.
Why cant we just stick the ball into the box for a player to thump in a header ala Arsenal against Spurs on Sunday. Haven't seen that in years.6 -
Don't let facts get in the way of a good moanForeverAddickted said:
We scored from a corner on Saturdaygolfaddick said:
I must have been watching a different game to everyone else. Second half Taylor started to play his corners along the ground to our player on the near post. Whether the idea is to then play it back to Taylor for a cross back into the box we'll never know as it never got back to Taylor.Southbank said:
Indeed, his free kicks and corners are better but he is not as imposing or front foot as Coventry. Doubt there is room for both in the same 11.mendonca said:The only reason we've not seen Taylor is because it appears that he plays in the exact position that Coventry does.
Why cant we just stick the ball into the box for a player to thump in a header ala Arsenal against Spurs on Sunday. Haven't seen that in years.6 -
To be fair I do struggle to remember the one we scored before that... One last season maybe; Jones vs Cambridge at the Valley?fenaddick said:
Don't let facts get in the way of a good moanForeverAddickted said:
We scored from a corner on Saturdaygolfaddick said:
I must have been watching a different game to everyone else. Second half Taylor started to play his corners along the ground to our player on the near post. Whether the idea is to then play it back to Taylor for a cross back into the box we'll never know as it never got back to Taylor.Southbank said:
Indeed, his free kicks and corners are better but he is not as imposing or front foot as Coventry. Doubt there is room for both in the same 11.mendonca said:The only reason we've not seen Taylor is because it appears that he plays in the exact position that Coventry does.
Why cant we just stick the ball into the box for a player to thump in a header ala Arsenal against Spurs on Sunday. Haven't seen that in years.0 -
Give him game time and he will, no striker at this level scores 40/50 across a season.Chunes said:Kanu has added so much to his game but seems to have temporarily lost his killer instinct. He had two glorious chances last night and spurned both. He's always primarily been a goalscorer so would love to see him find that again.1 -
Just wondered, does anyone think that Taylor and Coventry could play in the same team...🙄5
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Chunes said:Kanu has added so much to his game but seems to have temporarily lost his killer instinct. He had two glorious chances last night and spurned both. He's always primarily been a goalscorer so would love to see him find that again.
Agree.
Kanu has scored a shedload of goals in every age group for CAFC since he was 9. Even last season he had 10 goal (4 at Southend)
I am/was one one the few who wanted Daniel at 19 to continue to learn under Nathan and the coach at CAFC and not go out on loan in 24/25 as I think he can score goals once the 1st one go in. Pleased he got an assist for Godden but will be even happier when he scores himself as he will continue to have opportunities.
Nathan Jones skill at motivation in this BSM Trophy is amazing. So many clubs treat it like a friendly.
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I think he's scored 5 in 35 or something like that. I'm not criticising him, he's added a lot to his game, it's just for someone who is obviously a natural goalscorer and who broke records in the youth setup, there are certain chances you'd expect them to be bagging more regularly than not.Scoham said:
Give him game time and he will, no striker at this level scores 40/50 across a season.Chunes said:Kanu has added so much to his game but seems to have temporarily lost his killer instinct. He had two glorious chances last night and spurned both. He's always primarily been a goalscorer so would love to see him find that again.1 -
Yeah me too, our set pieces are poor. Last season our set piece xG was 8.71 and we scored 6 set piece goals so we were even underperforming that. We were actually the lowest scorers from set pieces, Cambridge are the only other team with less than 10 (8 scored, 9.61 xG).ForeverAddickted said:
To be fair I do struggle to remember the one we scored before that... One last season maybe; Jones vs Cambridge at the Valley?fenaddick said:
Don't let facts get in the way of a good moanForeverAddickted said:
We scored from a corner on Saturdaygolfaddick said:
I must have been watching a different game to everyone else. Second half Taylor started to play his corners along the ground to our player on the near post. Whether the idea is to then play it back to Taylor for a cross back into the box we'll never know as it never got back to Taylor.Southbank said:
Indeed, his free kicks and corners are better but he is not as imposing or front foot as Coventry. Doubt there is room for both in the same 11.mendonca said:The only reason we've not seen Taylor is because it appears that he plays in the exact position that Coventry does.
Why cant we just stick the ball into the box for a player to thump in a header ala Arsenal against Spurs on Sunday. Haven't seen that in years.
This season we are 8th on the set piece xG table (2.43) but joint 14th for actual set piece goals scored. 5 teams have failed to score from set pieces so far and Blackpool have already scored 6. Rotherham have a set piece xG of 4.29 and have only scored 1 which is a poor conversion ratio.2 -
I wasn’t saying he’ll score 20+, but this is a better squad and he’s under a good manager. He can now play alongside a target man rather than take that role on next to May which he had to last season. He’s a young player who’s still learning, he’ll miss chance like they all will but he’s capable of improving on last season.Chunes said:
I think he's scored 5 in 35 or something like that. I'm not criticising him, he's added a lot to his game, it's just for someone who is obviously a natural goalscorer and who broke records in the youth setup, there are certain chances you'd expect them to be bagging more regularly than not.Scoham said:
Give him game time and he will, no striker at this level scores 40/50 across a season.Chunes said:Kanu has added so much to his game but seems to have temporarily lost his killer instinct. He had two glorious chances last night and spurned both. He's always primarily been a goalscorer so would love to see him find that again.
With all our options up front I think they’ll rotate and share the goals between them, if he got enough minutes I could see Kanu getting 10 or close to it. At the moment Jones has moved Campbell ahead of him, Leaburn’s returning and Dixon has added another option, so his game time might be limited.1 -
I think it's quite a good idea. you always get a result on the night, and it's useful for teams to get some penalty shoot out practice.jimmymelrose said:
Good god! Can they find any more ways to make this compétion more absurd?Callumcafc said:
You get a bonus point if you win a penalty shootout after a draw in 90 minutes.jimmymelrose said:Bromley have managed to get 2 points from one game! They really have been taking note of the explanations of @seth plum
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It's such a different game between men's and youth football. Much more physical, much more contact as soon as you get the ball and much more time pressure in the moment. He's also only 19 and a lot has been asked of him. He got 6 goals in 30 appearances last season and in comparison in his first L1 season Alfie May got 4 in 27 aged 24. I think Kanu needs a bit of time to adapt his game and in that period he'll look less clinical because he can't approach chances in the same way he did against kids he was stronger than. He seems like such a hard worker, I think he'll get there.Chunes said:
I think he's scored 5 in 35 or something like that. I'm not criticising him, he's added a lot to his game, it's just for someone who is obviously a natural goalscorer and who broke records in the youth setup, there are certain chances you'd expect them to be bagging more regularly than not.Scoham said:
Give him game time and he will, no striker at this level scores 40/50 across a season.Chunes said:Kanu has added so much to his game but seems to have temporarily lost his killer instinct. He had two glorious chances last night and spurned both. He's always primarily been a goalscorer so would love to see him find that again.2 -
I know you're joking with this post but they definitely could. It's like when people thought it was one or the other with Coventry and Dobson, completely different styles of player, that just played near eachother on the pitch.eastterrace6168 said:Just wondered, does anyone think that Taylor and Coventry could play in the same team...🙄
God forbid we try and keep the ball against pants teams instead of lumping it long or giving up the lions share of possession. I could understand the logic if we had a player in the middle who could drive the ball forwards or run past a man, but none of our midfielders are offering that currently. So it would be nice to see another midfielder who can dictate the pace a little. Yesterday felt like I wasn't looking up for a lot of the game and it would be nice to see that on Saturday as well.
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Zach was walking OK when he joined his teamates clapping our fans on the pitch after the final whistle.seth plum said:Hoping that Zach Mitchell is OK.
I believe the reason Nathan Jones is so perky after that, is because if he has to drop anybody he can say to the player that he has other options justified in playing, because the talent and ability clearly doesn’t only rest with the current first eleven.
A stand our performer for me last night but then I've been one of his cheerleaders for several seasons.
Just need to offer him a contract he can't refuse before too many agents start turning up at matches....but guessing most are aware of his talent already.8 -
Problem is that while a Coventry/Taylor midfield would be very good at keeping the ball I'm not sure how much we'd actually do with it. Lots of possession yes but not much in the way of actual attacking play, based on current evidence.Braziliance said:
I know you're joking with this post but they definitely could. It's like when people thought it was one or the other with Coventry and Dobson, completely different styles of player, that just played near eachother on the pitch.eastterrace6168 said:Just wondered, does anyone think that Taylor and Coventry could play in the same team...🙄
God forbid we try and keep the ball against pants teams instead of lumping it long or giving up the lions share of possession. I could understand the logic if we had a player in the middle who could drive the ball forwards or run past a man, but none of our midfielders are offering that currently. So it would be nice to see another midfielder who can dictate the pace a little. Yesterday felt like I wasn't looking up for a lot of the game and it would be nice to see that on Saturday as well.
Admittedly the "hoof it to Ahadme" approach isn't 100% successful either but I don't think this is the answer.1 -
For a side playing a five man midfield, we are showing a distinct lack of threading the ball through to strikers. Our dead-balls are rubbish. We seem to have our pecking order of CMs wrong. I'd have TT and Edun in front of most. Not seen too much of Campbell who was handicapped by early yellow yesterday.thenewbie said:
Problem is that while a Coventry/Taylor midfield would be very good at keeping the ball I'm not sure how much we'd actually do with it. Lots of possession yes but not much in the way of actual attacking play, based on current evidence.Braziliance said:
I know you're joking with this post but they definitely could. It's like when people thought it was one or the other with Coventry and Dobson, completely different styles of player, that just played near eachother on the pitch.eastterrace6168 said:Just wondered, does anyone think that Taylor and Coventry could play in the same team...🙄
God forbid we try and keep the ball against pants teams instead of lumping it long or giving up the lions share of possession. I could understand the logic if we had a player in the middle who could drive the ball forwards or run past a man, but none of our midfielders are offering that currently. So it would be nice to see another midfielder who can dictate the pace a little. Yesterday felt like I wasn't looking up for a lot of the game and it would be nice to see that on Saturday as well.
Admittedly the "hoof it to Ahadme" approach isn't 100% successful either but I don't think this is the answer.
One reason we are poor here is defence playing too deep.0 -
Huge gamble for a league game so maybe worth saving it for another BSM tye but I wonder how Ahadme & Kanu would fair as a partnership? So much running, industry and physicality between them, surely defenders would hate that and they might even create more in-box opportunities for each other, as opposed to being focused on providing for a partner? Just a thought8
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To my recollection he did that once, messed it up, and didn't try it again.golfaddick said:
I must have been watching a different game to everyone else. Second half Taylor started to play his corners along the ground to our player on the near post. Whether the idea is to then play it back to Taylor for a cross back into the box we'll never know as it never got back to Taylor.Southbank said:
Indeed, his free kicks and corners are better but he is not as imposing or front foot as Coventry. Doubt there is room for both in the same 11.mendonca said:The only reason we've not seen Taylor is because it appears that he plays in the exact position that Coventry does.
Why cant we just stick the ball into the box for a player to thump in a header ala Arsenal against Spurs on Sunday. Haven't seen that in years.
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golfaddick said:
I must have been watching a different game to everyone else. Second half Taylor started to play his corners along the ground to our player on the near post. Whether the idea is to then play it back to Taylor for a cross back into the box we'll never know as it never got back to Taylor.Southbank said:
Indeed, his free kicks and corners are better but he is not as imposing or front foot as Coventry. Doubt there is room for both in the same 11.mendonca said:The only reason we've not seen Taylor is because it appears that he plays in the exact position that Coventry does.
Why cant we just stick the ball into the box for a player to thump in a header ala Arsenal against Spurs on Sunday. Haven't seen that in years.
...the missing link, Bukayo Saka & Gabriel Dos Santos Magalhães...🙄7 -
I have no real objection to this tournament - it gave us the chance to run out some fringe players and gave them the chance to show what they can do. When some were happy about getting knocked out by Reading last season, for me it meant we lost some valuable game time for these guys.
The performance was overall good. The red card/penalty with Karoy was a not at all good, but lets keep our feet on the ground - he's still learning and probably told to give their players problems, which he failed to do. Apart from that, with a changed team, we looked much better than I expected, and 2-1 was a fair result, even though we could have scored a couple more.
All good from me.5 -
I believe Zach is the ideal utility player. I believe he will make a very good midfielder.Fanny Fanackapan said:
Zach was walking OK when he joined his teamates clapping our fans on the pitch after the final whistle.seth plum said:Hoping that Zach Mitchell is OK.
I believe the reason Nathan Jones is so perky after that, is because if he has to drop anybody he can say to the player that he has other options justified in playing, because the talent and ability clearly doesn’t only rest with the current first eleven.
A stand our performer for me last night but then I've been one of his cheerleaders for several seasons.
Just need to offer him a contract he can't refuse before too many agents start turning up at matches....but guessing most are aware of his talent already.1 -
He's still getting chances and into the right areas. His best chance last night he engineered using his pace and strength and was a little unfortunate to be just running out of room as he bared down on the keeper. He'd have had a couple of tap ins if the final ball had been better on a couple of occassions. I'm no too concerned personally, he's in a lean spell, but the goals will come and while we wait, he is at least involved and influencing the game - e.g. his assist last night.Chunes said:Kanu has added so much to his game but seems to have temporarily lost his killer instinct. He had two glorious chances last night and spurned both. He's always primarily been a goalscorer so would love to see him find that again.6 -
I think it is a good trophy if you can do what we did last night and make eleven changes. It is very useful for a manager to be abe to do this. aybe we incur a fine I don't know the details but it is a semi competetive match in which to give squad players game time. Not really much not to like about it. I don't care if we win it but a fair number of games where we don't feel forced to play first teamers has to be good.1
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On the Charlton TV coverage there were problems with the sound. But not when it cut out obviously a signal problem but Tel’s commentary seemed ever so slightly ahead of play. Did anyone in Tenerife or other parts of the world notice it? It annoyed me so much that I switched over to Sky.
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No, it was perfect for us.Solidgone said:On the Charlton TV coverage there were problems with the sound. But not when it cut out obviously a signal problem but Tel’s commentary seemed ever so slightly ahead of play. Did anyone in Tenerife or other parts of the world notice it? It annoyed me so much that I switched over to Sky.0 -
Solidgone said:On the Charlton TV coverage there were problems with the sound. But not when it cut out obviously a signal problem but Tel’s commentary seemed ever so slightly ahead of play. Did anyone in Tenerife or other parts of the world notice it? It annoyed me so much that I switched over to Sky.
Same for me but I only made it to Belgium.
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It was slightly irritating knowing how a move was going to turn out before it happened on screen. Particularly when Tel got over excited thinking we’d scored, because unfortunately, a second later, we still hadn’t. 😂Solidgone said:On the Charlton TV coverage there were problems with the sound. But not when it cut out obviously a signal problem but Tel’s commentary seemed ever so slightly ahead of play. Did anyone in Tenerife or other parts of the world notice it? It annoyed me so much that I switched over to Sky.1
