Just wish politics, religion etc could stay completely out of football / sport.
Life just seems to increasingly jumping on a train to division, wished sport could be a sanctuary from that.
As Scoham replied above, Israel and Israeli clubs wouldn't be competing in European competitions if it wasn't for politics.
Indeed I've sometimes wondered whether Israel playing in Asia again might help the situation. You wouldn't make the change now obviously, and yes Israel vs Iran would be horrendously tense, but maybe it would have started the process towards reconciliation and a slight normalisation of the relations of the countries of the region. After all Ireland and N Ireland aren't prevented from playing each other, ditto North and South Korea.
Just wish politics, religion etc could stay completely out of football / sport.
Life just seems to increasingly jumping on a train to division, wished sport could be a sanctuary from that.
As Scoham replied above, Israel and Israeli clubs wouldn't be competing in European competitions if it wasn't for politics.
Indeed I've sometimes wondered whether Israel playing in Asia again might help the situation. You wouldn't make the change now obviously, and yes Israel vs Iran would be horrendously tense, but maybe it would have started the process towards reconciliation and a slight normalisation of the relations of the countries of the region. After all Ireland and N Ireland aren't prevented from playing each other, ditto North and South Korea.
Every match would have to be in a neutral venue though. Many Arab countries citizens cannot enter into Israel.
Whole thing seems bizarre. Aren't Ajax supposed to have Jewish roots as a club? I am sure their fans adopted the Star of David to recognise that?
What does that have to do with anything ? Zionist football hooligans were in Holland kicking off and causing trouble.... its nothing to do with people being Jewish!
Whole thing seems bizarre. Aren't Ajax supposed to have Jewish roots as a club? I am sure their fans adopted the Star of David to recognise that?
What does that have to do with anything ? Zionist football hooligans were in Holland kicking off and causing trouble.... its nothing to do with people being Jewish!
Unfortunately there is a strong, and legally supported position that says that opposition to Zionism is anti-semitic and the press are either happy to promote that or to scared to challenge it.
Whole thing seems bizarre. Aren't Ajax supposed to have Jewish roots as a club? I am sure their fans adopted the Star of David to recognise that?
What does that have to do with anything ? Zionist football hooligans were in Holland kicking off and causing trouble.... its nothing to do with people being Jewish!
Unfortunately there is a strong, and legally supported position that says that opposition to Zionism is anti-semitic and the press are either happy to promote that or to scared to challenge it.
Ah believe me, I've been on the receiving end of it for years !. I've been palestine 3 times and set up a auction in Jan that raised 16k to send over... I've had all sorts of grief.
The more worrying thing for me, is the celebrations of the attacks, and the amount of retweets and likes on post over the attacks.
Some fans are even saying they can't wait for them to play against Besiktas. So for those that think this wouldn't have happened unprovoked, it probably would have happened irrespective.
There's some serious issues atm with this. It's essentially cool and edgy to be anti-semitic among a lot of people now. It's mental
Disgusting. They can't go anywhere without some scum having a pop at them. Perhaps those perpetrators should have took a walk to Anne Frank's house instead.
Violence at football matches is reprehensible. But antisemitic, racist violence is several degrees worse. Anyone involved - and anyone condoning it - should be thoroughly ashamed.
I have avoided wading through the reports of what went on, for fear of coming across people either excusing it or inciting revenge. But I thought this call to Nick Ferrari was quite interesting. You have to scroll forward to 2hr 55min. But it's worth doing so and listening to the whole call (three or four minutes), just to hear "Ali" from London embarrassing himself.
Also Ziyech should receive a lifetime ban from football. Separating the politics of it all, a professional football player, should never, ever be celebrating fans being attacked at football.
It's extremely dangerous, that a famous footballer with 11.4 million followers on one platform alone, has condoned the behaviour. He shouldn't be allowed to kick a football in a professional setting ever again.
The more worrying thing for me, is the celebrations of the attacks, and the amount of retweets and likes on post over the attacks.
Some fans are even saying they can't wait for them to play against Besiktas. So for those that think this wouldn't have happened unprovoked, it probably would have happened irrespective.
There's some serious issues atm with this. It's essentially cool and edgy to be anti-semitic among a lot of people now. It's mental
OR... fans want to do the same to zionists after seeing what they did ? nothing ive seen, shows this would have happened anyway. WTF were the mossad agents going to contribute to the situation other than agro ?
The more worrying thing for me, is the celebrations of the attacks, and the amount of retweets and likes on post over the attacks.
Some fans are even saying they can't wait for them to play against Besiktas. So for those that think this wouldn't have happened unprovoked, it probably would have happened irrespective.
There's some serious issues atm with this. It's essentially cool and edgy to be anti-semitic among a lot of people now. It's mental
OR... fans want to do the same to zionists after seeing what they did ? nothing ive seen, shows this would have happened anyway. WTF were the mossad agents going to contribute to the situation other than agro ?
If you think innocent Jewish people, aren't the victims of hate crimes on a day to day basis. I genuinely don't know what to tell you.
Do you genuinely believe that every single Tel Aviv fan that was attacked last night, was participating in Anti-Palestine chants etc?
Disgusting. They can't go anywhere without some scum having a pop at them. Perhaps those perpetrators should have took a walk to Anne Frank's house instead.
The more worrying thing for me, is the celebrations of the attacks, and the amount of retweets and likes on post over the attacks.
Some fans are even saying they can't wait for them to play against Besiktas. So for those that think this wouldn't have happened unprovoked, it probably would have happened irrespective.
There's some serious issues atm with this. It's essentially cool and edgy to be anti-semitic among a lot of people now. It's mental
OR... fans want to do the same to zionists after seeing what they did ? nothing ive seen, shows this would have happened anyway. WTF were the mossad agents going to contribute to the situation other than agro ?
Here you go, just one example found within 10 seconds of twitter searching
If you go to a foreign city intend on stirring up trouble, singing racist chants and destroying property, you deserve to get your head kicked in, which is what seemingly happened
some reports say that on the metro before the game, Macabi fans were walking through the carriages 'looking for trouble' .. this whole situation might not be as clear cut as it first appears .. this is taken from a BBC report .. QUOTE: Maccabi supporters attacked a taxi and set a Palestinian flag on fire. There are also reports of supporters chanting racist slogans about Arabs UNQUOTE
some reports say that on the metro before the game, Macabi fans were walking through the carriages 'looking for trouble' .. this whole situation might not be as clear cut as it first appears .. this is taken from a BBC report .. QUOTE: Maccabi supporters attacked a taxi and set a Palestinian flag on fire. There are also reports of supporters chanting racist slogans about Arabs UNQUOTE
That doesn't fit the narrative and also is likely to open you up to accusations of "condoning" or "excusing" antisemitism. The most bloodthirsty expressions of outrage are designed to shut down any possibility of debate.
The more worrying thing for me, is the celebrations of the attacks, and the amount of retweets and likes on post over the attacks.
Some fans are even saying they can't wait for them to play against Besiktas. So for those that think this wouldn't have happened unprovoked, it probably would have happened irrespective.
There's some serious issues atm with this. It's essentially cool and edgy to be anti-semitic among a lot of people now. It's mental
The match in Turkey against BeSiktas is being played at a neural venue. That was announced before last nights shit.
The more worrying thing for me, is the celebrations of the attacks, and the amount of retweets and likes on post over the attacks.
Some fans are even saying they can't wait for them to play against Besiktas. So for those that think this wouldn't have happened unprovoked, it probably would have happened irrespective.
There's some serious issues atm with this. It's essentially cool and edgy to be anti-semitic among a lot of people now. It's mental
The match in Turkey against BeSiktas is being played at a neural venue. That was announced before last nights shit.
That's fine.
There are still people on social media who don't know that, and are celebrating the fixture in hope of their being violence against Jews and getting tens of thousands of likes making these types of posts
The more worrying thing for me, is the celebrations of the attacks, and the amount of retweets and likes on post over the attacks.
Some fans are even saying they can't wait for them to play against Besiktas. So for those that think this wouldn't have happened unprovoked, it probably would have happened irrespective.
There's some serious issues atm with this. It's essentially cool and edgy to be anti-semitic among a lot of people now. It's mental
OR... fans want to do the same to zionists after seeing what they did ? nothing ive seen, shows this would have happened anyway. WTF were the mossad agents going to contribute to the situation other than agro ?
If you think innocent Jewish people, aren't the victims of hate crimes on a day to day basis. I genuinely don't know what to tell you.
Do you genuinely believe that every single Tel Aviv fan that was attacked last night, was participating in Anti-Palestine chants etc?
I mean, there's misinterpreting people's posts and there's what you've just done.
If it makes you feel better, it was all pre planned and the Israel fans were all victims.
The more worrying thing for me, is the celebrations of the attacks, and the amount of retweets and likes on post over the attacks.
Some fans are even saying they can't wait for them to play against Besiktas. So for those that think this wouldn't have happened unprovoked, it probably would have happened irrespective.
There's some serious issues atm with this. It's essentially cool and edgy to be anti-semitic among a lot of people now. It's mental
The match in Turkey against BeSiktas is being played at a neural venue. That was announced before last nights shit.
That's fine.
There are still people on social media who don't know that, and are celebrating the fixture in hope of their being violence against Jews and getting tens of thousands of likes making these types of posts
The more worrying thing for me, is the celebrations of the attacks, and the amount of retweets and likes on post over the attacks.
Some fans are even saying they can't wait for them to play against Besiktas. So for those that think this wouldn't have happened unprovoked, it probably would have happened irrespective.
There's some serious issues atm with this. It's essentially cool and edgy to be anti-semitic among a lot of people now. It's mental
OR... fans want to do the same to zionists after seeing what they did ? nothing ive seen, shows this would have happened anyway. WTF were the mossad agents going to contribute to the situation other than agro ?
If you think innocent Jewish people, aren't the victims of hate crimes on a day to day basis. I genuinely don't know what to tell you.
Do you genuinely believe that every single Tel Aviv fan that was attacked last night, was participating in Anti-Palestine chants etc?
I mean, there's misinterpreting people's posts and there's what you've just done.
If it makes you feel better, it was all pre planned and the Israel fans were all victims.
Explain to me what you meant then.
It also wouldn't make me feel better, as I condemn any fan inciting violence on any other football fan.
My posts are centred around the fact that,
- A professional player, has encouraged attacks on football fans
- there are people in Amsterdam purposely searching for people to attack them if they're Jewish, there's multiple videos proving this.
- People on social media are celebrating these events and wanting to see more of it.
You keep posting stuff from accounts that are obviously pro-Israeli - they're not exactly going to be providing a balanced view of the whole situation are they? They're not going to show the Maccabi fans singing racist shit about Arabs or destroying property, they're going to show stuff that will back up what they believe
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Indeed I've sometimes wondered whether Israel playing in Asia again might help the situation. You wouldn't make the change now obviously, and yes Israel vs Iran would be horrendously tense, but maybe it would have started the process towards reconciliation and a slight normalisation of the relations of the countries of the region. After all Ireland and N Ireland aren't prevented from playing each other, ditto North and South Korea.
Some fans are even saying they can't wait for them to play against Besiktas. So for those that think this wouldn't have happened unprovoked, it probably would have happened irrespective.
There's some serious issues atm with this. It's essentially cool and edgy to be anti-semitic among a lot of people now. It's mental
I have avoided wading through the reports of what went on, for fear of coming across people either excusing it or inciting revenge. But I thought this call to Nick Ferrari was quite interesting. You have to scroll forward to 2hr 55min. But it's worth doing so and listening to the whole call (three or four minutes), just to hear "Ali" from London embarrassing himself.
https://www.globalplayer.com/catchup/lbc/uk/episodes/2zGyG6qA6tETzknnL4cjuAu4HT/
"What was the score, Ali?"
It's extremely dangerous, that a famous footballer with 11.4 million followers on one platform alone, has condoned the behaviour. He shouldn't be allowed to kick a football in a professional setting ever again.
Do you genuinely believe that every single Tel Aviv fan that was attacked last night, was participating in Anti-Palestine chants etc?
https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1854749301630472584?t=Cq3HwpHSZXXfrvwvYptKng&s=19
On the streets of Amsterdam, tourists are being asked to show their passports where they are from, to prevent being attacked.
https://x.com/MoroccanZionist/status/1854698423418515561?t=abvq6Xs4bbY-kMUUUby1Tw&s=19
Seems like really appropriate behaviour
There are still people on social media who don't know that, and are celebrating the fixture in hope of their being violence against Jews and getting tens of thousands of likes making these types of posts
If it makes you feel better, it was all pre planned and the Israel fans were all victims.
It also wouldn't make me feel better, as I condemn any fan inciting violence on any other football fan.
My posts are centred around the fact that,
- A professional player, has encouraged attacks on football fans
- there are people in Amsterdam purposely searching for people to attack them if they're Jewish, there's multiple videos proving this.
- People on social media are celebrating these events and wanting to see more of it.