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Israeli football fans attacked in Amsterdam
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Ha ha what a nonce. (Ali, not you Chizz)Chizz said:Violence at football matches is reprehensible. But antisemitic, racist violence is several degrees worse. Anyone involved - and anyone condoning it - should be thoroughly ashamed.
I have avoided wading through the reports of what went on, for fear of coming across people either excusing it or inciting revenge. But I thought this call to Nick Ferrari was quite interesting. You have to scroll forward to 2hr 55min. But it's worth doing so and listening to the whole call (three or four minutes), just to hear "Ali" from London embarrassing himself.
https://www.globalplayer.com/catchup/lbc/uk/episodes/2zGyG6qA6tETzknnL4cjuAu4HT/
"What was the score, Ali?"4 -
Ok, now ignore what account posted it, as it's not entirely relevant to the footage itself. Watch the videos, and just tell me if you think those videos are acceptable.jacob_CAFC said:
You keep posting stuff from accounts that are obviously pro-Israeli - they're not exactly going to be providing a balanced view of the whole situation are they? They're not going to show the Maccabi fans singing racist shit about Arabs or destroying property, they're going to show stuff that will back up what they believeBraziliance said:Here's another for you
https://x.com/MoroccanZionist/status/1854698423418515561?t=abvq6Xs4bbY-kMUUUby1Tw&s=19
Seems like really appropriate behaviour
All there is to it. I've seen the chants, they're also not right. Do chants from a separate group of fans, justify groups of people essentially hunting lone and small groups of travelling fans?2 -
Braziliance said:
Here you go, just one example found within 10 seconds of twitter searchingshine166 said:
OR... fans want to do the same to zionists after seeing what they did ? nothing ive seen, shows this would have happened anyway. WTF were the mossad agents going to contribute to the situation other than agro ?Braziliance said:The more worrying thing for me, is the celebrations of the attacks, and the amount of retweets and likes on post over the attacks.
Some fans are even saying they can't wait for them to play against Besiktas. So for those that think this wouldn't have happened unprovoked, it probably would have happened irrespective.
There's some serious issues atm with this. It's essentially cool and edgy to be anti-semitic among a lot of people now. It's mental
https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1854749301630472584?t=Cq3HwpHSZXXfrvwvYptKng&s=19
On the streets of Amsterdam, tourists are being asked to show their passports where they are from, to prevent being attacked.
Europe is fucked.3 -
It's also one of the best news sources in the world currently. So as much as it has its drawbacks, you can look at things for how they are and separate the wheat from the chaff.PopIcon said:
Twitter is a hot mess for the blind.Braziliance said:
That's fine.PopIcon said:
The match in Turkey against BeSiktas is being played at a neural venue. That was announced before last nights shit.Braziliance said:The more worrying thing for me, is the celebrations of the attacks, and the amount of retweets and likes on post over the attacks.
Some fans are even saying they can't wait for them to play against Besiktas. So for those that think this wouldn't have happened unprovoked, it probably would have happened irrespective.
There's some serious issues atm with this. It's essentially cool and edgy to be anti-semitic among a lot of people now. It's mental
There are still people on social media who don't know that, and are celebrating the fixture in hope of their being violence against Jews and getting tens of thousands of likes making these types of posts
It is currently acceptable among groups* for people to be anti-semitic on social media.9 -
Probably because not every single person that was attacked last night is a 'vile Muslim-hating, Palestine flag burning, genocide-supporting Maccabi fan'sam3110 said:I notice none of the articles state "vile Muslim-hating, Palestine flag burning, genocide-supporting Maccabi fans get their comeuppance"
Funny that...
Neither are a lot of the Jews being attacked online simply for being Jewish.
Funny that..6 -
sam3110 said:I notice none of the articles state "vile Muslim-hating, Palestine flag burning, genocide-supporting Maccabi fans get their comeuppance"
I think the Guardian lead with that headline.1 -
@sam3110 @Friend Or Defoe @PopIcon
Want to explain to me which part of any of my posts was 'Laugh out Loud' funny?
Quite intrigued how any of my posts qualify for someone laughing is all6 -
One good thing from all this is that the Jew haters on this site have ID'ed themselves.
The sooner Hamas, Hizbollah and their Iranian paymasters get wiped out the sooner there will be peace.
I stand with Israel.
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Admin have had a busy week. How long until they have to close this thread? Beneath the politics of war are huge numbers of human beings just wanting to live a bog standard life.5
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Default behaviour mate.Braziliance said:sam3110 "Friend Or Defoe" PopIcon
Want to explain to me which part of any of my posts was 'Laugh out Loud' funny?
Quite intrigued how any of my posts qualify for someone laughing is all
Starts with complete outrage, followed by a couple of attempts at sweary posts in the draught box, then finally, as the minutes pass by calm is restored, it all gets deleted and a simple tap of the LOL button is resorted to.3 - Sponsored links:
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Of course, to many people, including on here it's an acceptable form of racism in their eyes.Braziliance said:The more worrying thing for me, is the celebrations of the attacks, and the amount of retweets and likes on post over the attacks.
Some fans are even saying they can't wait for them to play against Besiktas. So for those that think this wouldn't have happened unprovoked, it probably would have happened irrespective.
There's some serious issues atm with this. It's essentially cool and edgy to be anti-semitic among a lot of people now. It's mental6 -
You think there will be "peace" once Israel wipes out Muslims from the Middle East? Because last time I checked, the entirety of Gaza isn't HamasHenry Irving said:One good thing from all this is that the Jew haters on this site have ID'ed themselves.
The sooner Hamas, Hizbollah and their Iranian paymasters get wiped out the sooner there will be peace.
I stand with Israel.9 -
I'll give it another 10 minutes11
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"Innocent" Jews when the Jews in question aren't innocent. The exact same thing happens to innocent Muslims on a daily basis on social media, and recently on UK streets.Braziliance said:@sam3110 @Friend Or Defoe @PopIcon
Want to explain to me which part of any of my posts was 'Laugh out Loud' funny?
Quite intrigued how any of my posts qualify for someone laughing is all3 -
Il retype my post again if you like so you can actually read it, completely upto to you.Braziliance said:
Explain to me what you meant then.shine166 said:
I mean, there's misinterpreting people's posts and there's what you've just done.Braziliance said:
If you think innocent Jewish people, aren't the victims of hate crimes on a day to day basis. I genuinely don't know what to tell you.shine166 said:
OR... fans want to do the same to zionists after seeing what they did ? nothing ive seen, shows this would have happened anyway. WTF were the mossad agents going to contribute to the situation other than agro ?Braziliance said:The more worrying thing for me, is the celebrations of the attacks, and the amount of retweets and likes on post over the attacks.
Some fans are even saying they can't wait for them to play against Besiktas. So for those that think this wouldn't have happened unprovoked, it probably would have happened irrespective.
There's some serious issues atm with this. It's essentially cool and edgy to be anti-semitic among a lot of people now. It's mental
Do you genuinely believe that every single Tel Aviv fan that was attacked last night, was participating in Anti-Palestine chants etc?
If it makes you feel better, it was all pre planned and the Israel fans were all victims.
It also wouldn't make me feel better, as I condemn any fan inciting violence on any other football fan.
My posts are centred around the fact that,
- A professional player, has encouraged attacks on football fans
- there are people in Amsterdam purposely searching for people to attack them if they're Jewish, there's multiple videos proving this.
- People on social media are celebrating these events and wanting to see more of it.
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So you have interest to understanding what actually happened, but just decide they were antisemitic attacks? Helpful.Chizz said:Violence at football matches is reprehensible. But antisemitic, racist violence is several degrees worse. Anyone involved - and anyone condoning it - should be thoroughly ashamed.
I have avoided wading through the reports of what went on, for fear of coming across people either excusing it or inciting revenge. But I thought this call to Nick Ferrari was quite interesting. You have to scroll forward to 2hr 55min. But it's worth doing so and listening to the whole call (three or four minutes), just to hear "Ali" from London embarrassing himself.
https://www.globalplayer.com/catchup/lbc/uk/episodes/2zGyG6qA6tETzknnL4cjuAu4HT/
"What was the score, Ali?"2 -
sam3110 said:
"Innocent" Jews when the Jews in question aren't innocent. The exact same thing happens to innocent Muslims on a daily basis on social media, and recently on UK streets.Braziliance said:@sam3110 @Friend Or Defoe @PopIcon
Want to explain to me which part of any of my posts was 'Laugh out Loud' funny?
Quite intrigued how any of my posts qualify for someone laughing is all
He's literally posted videos of people on their own being asked to prove what country they are from. Any scum being anti mulsim/ anti arab or burning flags deserve a slap. Being jewish/ israeli and being attacked for just being there and nothing else other than being jewish/ israeli is what most have the issue with on here.
I dont care if anyone being anti muslim or burning flags gets what for but just being an innocent bystander who happens to be israeli and / or jewish is dispicable. It was only in the summer that a met copper in London told a british citizen on camera to leave the area near a march as he was 'openly jewish"....in london in 2024 ffs.
And yes of course muslims get abuse for being muslims which is wrong but thats pure whataboutery and nothing to do with this football- related story.3 -
Whether Maccabi fans were innocent seems questionable. But, the concept of gangs of Muslim (fighting age ) males taking to the streets to attack them, is truly worrying. Couldn’t happen here ? Of course it could. Do we want Middle Eastern conflicts fought out on the streets of Europe's Cities. Let’s hope the Dutch adopt some Starmer like justice, an dish out hefty jail sentences.
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I 'lol' at Twitter is one of the best news sources in the world currently. I stop reading after that. Removed it to avoid confusion but claiming Twitter is a good news source is hilarious.Braziliance said:@sam3110 @Friend Or Defoe @PopIcon
Want to explain to me which part of any of my posts was 'Laugh out Loud' funny?
Quite intrigued how any of my posts qualify for someone laughing is all12 -
I wouldn't bother mate, anything you say is going to mean you are a "jew hater" or an anti-semitesam3110 said:
You think there will be "peace" once Israel wipes out Muslims from the Middle East? Because last time I checked, the entirety of Gaza isn't HamasHenry Irving said:One good thing from all this is that the Jew haters on this site have ID'ed themselves.
The sooner Hamas, Hizbollah and their Iranian paymasters get wiped out the sooner there will be peace.
I stand with Israel.5 -
Twitter announced themselves as the best news source. However, its credibility is in decline, check the ad revenue.Braziliance said:
It's also one of the best news sources in the world currently. So as much as it has its drawbacks, you can look at things for how they are and separate the wheat from the chaff.PopIcon said:
Twitter is a hot mess for the blind.Braziliance said:
That's fine.PopIcon said:
The match in Turkey against BeSiktas is being played at a neural venue. That was announced before last nights shit.Braziliance said:The more worrying thing for me, is the celebrations of the attacks, and the amount of retweets and likes on post over the attacks.
Some fans are even saying they can't wait for them to play against Besiktas. So for those that think this wouldn't have happened unprovoked, it probably would have happened irrespective.
There's some serious issues atm with this. It's essentially cool and edgy to be anti-semitic among a lot of people now. It's mental
There are still people on social media who don't know that, and are celebrating the fixture in hope of their being violence against Jews and getting tens of thousands of likes making these types of posts
It is currently acceptable among groups* for people to be anti-semitic on social media.
Ideally i like my news factually correct and unbiased. You have to wade through so much crap on Twitter, it's not an enjoyable experience. Musk promotes unbound free-speech and that comes chained to extreme opinion.
The professional media are crying out for a competitor to Twitter, but as of yet no one has stepped forward. It will happen and Twitter will go the same way as Freinds Reunited and MySpace.3 -
Didn't get called out for liking your post claiming the footballer should be banned for celebrating the fans getting attacked on social media. 😕1
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PopIcon said:Braziliance said:
It's also one of the best news sources in the world currently. So as much as it has its drawbacks, you can look at things for how they are and separate the wheat from the chaff.PopIcon said:
Twitter is a hot mess for the blind.Braziliance said:
That's fine.PopIcon said:
The match in Turkey against BeSiktas is being played at a neural venue. That was announced before last nights shit.Braziliance said:The more worrying thing for me, is the celebrations of the attacks, and the amount of retweets and likes on post over the attacks.
Some fans are even saying they can't wait for them to play against Besiktas. So for those that think this wouldn't have happened unprovoked, it probably would have happened irrespective.
There's some serious issues atm with this. It's essentially cool and edgy to be anti-semitic among a lot of people now. It's mental
There are still people on social media who don't know that, and are celebrating the fixture in hope of their being violence against Jews and getting tens of thousands of likes making these types of posts
It is currently acceptable among groups* for people to be anti-semitic on social media.
Ideally i like my news factually correct and unbiased.
Hard to find this nowdays on either side of the political spectrum3 -
Can you tell me where to get this factually correct and unbiased news? Unfortunately doesn't exist anymore. The only way, imho, to get to a view is to look at a number of different platforms, but that is very difficult with so many algorithms around.PopIcon said:
Twitter announced themselves as the best news source. However, its credibility is in decline, check the ad revenue.Braziliance said:
It's also one of the best news sources in the world currently. So as much as it has its drawbacks, you can look at things for how they are and separate the wheat from the chaff.PopIcon said:
Twitter is a hot mess for the blind.Braziliance said:
That's fine.PopIcon said:
The match in Turkey against BeSiktas is being played at a neural venue. That was announced before last nights shit.Braziliance said:The more worrying thing for me, is the celebrations of the attacks, and the amount of retweets and likes on post over the attacks.
Some fans are even saying they can't wait for them to play against Besiktas. So for those that think this wouldn't have happened unprovoked, it probably would have happened irrespective.
There's some serious issues atm with this. It's essentially cool and edgy to be anti-semitic among a lot of people now. It's mental
There are still people on social media who don't know that, and are celebrating the fixture in hope of their being violence against Jews and getting tens of thousands of likes making these types of posts
It is currently acceptable among groups* for people to be anti-semitic on social media.
Ideally i like my news factually correct and unbiased. You have to wade through so much crap on Twitter, it's not an enjoyable experience. Musk promotes unbound free-speech and that comes chained to extreme opinion.
The professional media are crying out for a competitor to Twitter, but as of yet no one has stepped forward. It will happen and Twitter will go the same way as Freinds Reunited and MySpace.3 -
My profile picture since October last year seems to have gone unnoticed as well. 🥲2
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Another day, another load of CL posters embarrass themselves.
The lack of self control is so weird.9 -
Once of the most illinformed posts on here ffsHenry Irving said:One good thing from all this is that the Jew haters on this site have ID'ed themselves.
The sooner Hamas, Hizbollah and their Iranian paymasters get wiped out the sooner there will be peace.
I stand with Israel.12 -
Braziliance said:
Explain to me what you meant then.shine166 said:
I mean, there's misinterpreting people's posts and there's what you've just done.Braziliance said:
If you think innocent Jewish people, aren't the victims of hate crimes on a day to day basis. I genuinely don't know what to tell you.shine166 said:
OR... fans want to do the same to zionists after seeing what they did ? nothing ive seen, shows this would have happened anyway. WTF were the mossad agents going to contribute to the situation other than agro ?Braziliance said:The more worrying thing for me, is the celebrations of the attacks, and the amount of retweets and likes on post over the attacks.
Some fans are even saying they can't wait for them to play against Besiktas. So for those that think this wouldn't have happened unprovoked, it probably would have happened irrespective.
There's some serious issues atm with this. It's essentially cool and edgy to be anti-semitic among a lot of people now. It's mental
Do you genuinely believe that every single Tel Aviv fan that was attacked last night, was participating in Anti-Palestine chants etc?
If it makes you feel better, it was all pre planned and the Israel fans were all victims.
It also wouldn't make me feel better, as I condemn any fan inciting violence on any other football fan.
My posts are centred around the fact that,
- A professional player, has encouraged attacks on football fans
- there are people in Amsterdam purposely searching for people to attack them if they're Jewish, there's multiple videos proving this.
- People on social media are celebrating these events and wanting to see more of it.
You said these attacks would have happened no matter what, I said theres no evidence of that... then you jumped straight into 'jewish people are victims of hate crimes every day'
its just joining up dots that dont exist, to suit your agenda.3
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