Worth noting that lower league fans aren’t necessarily the target audience for MOTD. If you support a PL team you’re more likely to want to watch the other teams in the division and if you are so minded it might help you know what to look out for next time your team plays
I’m surprised it’s still going. I get the tradition but seeing as you can watch the goals pretty straight after the game, seems a bit pointless now.
This, I go on Livescore and way before Match of the Day is on it links to a 3 minute highlight package. Can't imagine having to sit through the whole of match of the day, painfully long.
This is the thing, there is a load of value to the BBC for MoTD, but the way it's consumed is different now. It probably does really good numbers on iPlayer, however if you want the goals at 5.15 you can get them on your phone before you've got out of the traffic around the ground.
Same with the hysterics over the removal of the football results on 5 Live, you can get them on your phone, Livescore, Fotmob, your betting app does a better job of getting you the scores then anyone reading them with perfect diction on 5 Live.
Maybe you should consider that maybe people don’t want to watch on a phone or look up scores on a phone.
Why is it so incomprehensible to prefer to watch highlights (not just goals) on a large screen, or prefer to have someone present the scores to you, whilst relaxing on the sofa?
I have, as I said, it still has a place, but the majority consume their football in other ways, and as for the scores, you can get them on LBC News at 5.10, and guess what, no one listens.
Ah crap I’m too late, everyone else already made the diversity jokes
It's fine to make fun of the BBC, in fact it's a hiring prerequisite.
This is an institution that, for years, not only suppressed the voices of the vulnerable but also shielded sexual predators throughout the 70s, 80s, and 90s.
In many ways the BBC were similar to Angela Merkel's cabinet.
I'm surprised at the number of posts on here advocating, apparently without a hint of irony, Alex Scott.
Her delivery, even from an autocue, is painful, as is her ability to "bounce off" other pundits, and any thought that it might have been a developing skillset (Lineker wasn't great at the start) hasn't come to fruition over time (Football Focus has been on an accelerated decline in recent years, although the content doesn't help her).
I don't think the BBC will risk the impact she has had on FF being replicated on MOTD, but who knows...
I reckon they will have a revolving panel of hosts, rather than one permanent one
This is the best shout given a lot of it is going to depend on whether the BBC will want exclusivity over the presenter in the current football broadcasting landscape. Would Kelly Cates (and, to a much lesser extent, Mark Chapman) want to give up lucrative work at Sky if it were demanded to be the new MOTD presenter?
I think it’s a tough one because the Beeb has to be seen to be providing value for money and should be promoting new/young talent as well. It’s not going to go down well if the next presenter leaps to the top of the highest earners list each year particularly if it’s an unpopular appointment. I also think the corporation wants to have someone who can step into presenting other programmes such as SPOTY etc. It was obviously Jermaine Jenas’ gig until he messed it up.
Sensible options are either Mark Chapman or Gabby Logan. Left-field would be someone like Ronan Kemp given they’ve entrusted him with The One Show and, laugh at the suggestion all you want, but he would probably appeal to a younger audience that the BBC is targeting.
I reckon they will have a revolving panel of hosts, rather than one permanent one
This is the best shout given a lot of it is going to depend on whether the BBC will want exclusivity over the presenter in the current football broadcasting landscape. Would Kelly Cates (and, to a much lesser extent, Mark Chapman) want to give up lucrative work at Sky if it were demanded to be the new MOTD presenter?
I think it’s a tough one because the Beeb has to be seen to be providing value for money and should be promoting new/young talent as well. It’s not going to go down well if the next presenter leaps to the top of the highest earners list each year particularly if it’s an unpopular appointment. I also think the corporation wants to have someone who can step into presenting other programmes such as SPOTY etc. It was obviously Jermaine Jenas’ gig until he messed it up.
Sensible options are either Mark Chapman or Gabby Logan. Left-field would be someone like Ronan Kemp given they’ve entrusted him with The One Show and, laugh at the suggestion all you want, but he would probably appeal to a younger audience that the BBC is targeting.
Yeah why not, he could get his mum and dad along as the pundits.
They won’t. Like any other organisation their marketers, business development and production team will discuss the best option which will ultimately increase viewers. That’s all “woke” is in the business world, expanding its market reach to other customers.
Either that or it’s some secret plot to destroy the white man! (If you have the IQ of a slug)
I reckon they will have a revolving panel of hosts, rather than one permanent one
This is the best shout given a lot of it is going to depend on whether the BBC will want exclusivity over the presenter in the current football broadcasting landscape. Would Kelly Cates (and, to a much lesser extent, Mark Chapman) want to give up lucrative work at Sky if it were demanded to be the new MOTD presenter?
I think it’s a tough one because the Beeb has to be seen to be providing value for money and should be promoting new/young talent as well. It’s not going to go down well if the next presenter leaps to the top of the highest earners list each year particularly if it’s an unpopular appointment. I also think the corporation wants to have someone who can step into presenting other programmes such as SPOTY etc. It was obviously Jermaine Jenas’ gig until he messed it up.
Sensible options are either Mark Chapman or Gabby Logan. Left-field would be someone like Ronan Kemp given they’ve entrusted him with The One Show and, laugh at the suggestion all you want, but he would probably appeal to a younger audience that the BBC is targeting.
Are they actively doing this or are you just highlighting this demographic consume their TV differently now?
I wound be surprised if they are personally and will have a similar person (s) in future and it will be not much different.
They won’t. Like any other organisation their marketers, business development and production team will discuss the best option which will ultimately increase viewers. That’s all “woke” is in the business world, expanding its market reach to other customers.
Either that or it’s some secret plot to destroy the white man! (If you have the IQ of a slug)
They will discuss the options that might soften the rate of decline in viewers.
MOTD will continuously lose viewers as older viewers die off, current viewers move to other media channels for their content, and a new audience doesn't materialise.
They will be keen to avoid the rate of decline of Football Focus, and hopefully that will influence their list of potential presenters.
My opinion FWIW, even as a fan of a PL club, I only occasionally watch MOTD.
If I haven't gone to the game, I highly likely would have watched Spurs on TV by Sky/TNT or on a dodgy stream for the 3pm kick offs. If Spurs have had a good win against a decent team or there's been a contentious decision I might stick it on to relive it again (the 4-1 against Villa I watched MOTD 2 with Chappers) but didn't have it on at all last weekend as I'd watched the 2pm ko against Ipswich and didn't want to put myself through it again.
Personally I like Lineker. He's a proper football man, he was a brilliant centre-forward and he comes across as a genuinely nice bloke. I always remember when he and Gazza signed my shirt outside WHL back when was 14. I was star struck. I get that he is marmite and some people can't stand him. Really couldn't care less for the politics, whether it is left or right wing, it doesn't make a bone of difference to me. He'll be sorely missed on MOTD, like Des Lynham was before him. He's been the comfort blanket for some good and bad times at Spurs.
Chappers has done his apprenticeship now and he should be given the full gig now. He's always been good value on MOTD2.
However, I do think the Beeb will try to tick all the Ethnicity & Inclusion boxes in the recruitment process. If thats the case, Alex Scott ticks more boxes than most. But does it really matter? I'd suggest Gaby Logan, Laura Woods, Kelly Cates and Kate Abdo/Scott do a brilliant job elsewhere on TV and wouldn't be out of place on MOTD.
It's going to be impossible to properly replace Lineker because football has changed so much. Lineker was an England striker who played abroad for a portion of his career and then moved into a media career. Lineker was a pretty inoffensive footballer who didn't generate controversy while playing and then built a media career over 5 years before getting the MOTD job. He did that all in a landscape where footballers in general received a lot less scrutiny and tribalist abuse on a daily basis than they do now. You can pick out almost any recently retired footballer and a group will have a screaming fit about them either because of something that happened in their career or just the fact of who they played for. One thing I like about Lineker is he lets the guest pundits do most of the talking but he also does chime in where appropriate when it comes to talking about movement from strikers or defenders he would have found difficult to play against. It's most likely now that we'll get a host with a purely media background like on Sky and it will slightly remove that element from the studio. Not the end of the world but more an indication of the way social media has created storm in a teacup controversies about almost everything at all times. Plenty of the people who will complain about the replacement won't have watched MOTD in years but we'll still get 'stupid diversity hire is ruining the thing I don't watch anyway world's broken' discourse because that's how money is made now.
Anyone getting their knickers in a twist about who the next presenter of MOTD *might* be should cast their eyes over to the States and see who's being appointed to the various offices of the world's largest military. That should make you feel better
Anyone getting their knickers in a twist about who the next presenter of MOTD *might* be should cast their eyes over to the States and see who's being appointed to the various offices of the world's largest military. That should make you feel better
Anyone getting their knickers in a twist about who the next presenter of MOTD *might* be should cast their eyes over to the States and see who's being appointed to the various offices of the world's largest military. That should make you feel better
It’s not people with the right credentials is it? Whatever next.
Woke means anti racist. So a woke presenter would be great.
No sh1t Sherlock!
Yep. You seem to agree with me, a rare occurrence on Charlton Life, but I am confident I am correct in the meaning of ‘woke’. In my mind ‘woke’ is not about everything that might piss an individual off, but about being aware of, and resisting, racism. If you like you can check out the BBC podcast as to the origin of the term. If language develops and grows then the changes need to be agreed and accepted or they have no meaning.
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Everyone knows all the good games are Sunday anyway
This is an institution that, for years, not only suppressed the voices of the vulnerable but also shielded sexual predators throughout the 70s, 80s, and 90s.
In many ways the BBC were similar to Angela Merkel's cabinet.
Her delivery, even from an autocue, is painful, as is her ability to "bounce off" other pundits, and any thought that it might have been a developing skillset (Lineker wasn't great at the start) hasn't come to fruition over time (Football Focus has been on an accelerated decline in recent years, although the content doesn't help her).
I don't think the BBC will risk the impact she has had on FF being replicated on MOTD, but who knows...
I think it’s a tough one because the Beeb has to be seen to be providing value for money and should be promoting new/young talent as well. It’s not going to go down well if the next presenter leaps to the top of the highest earners list each year particularly if it’s an unpopular appointment. I also think the corporation wants to have someone who can step into presenting other programmes such as SPOTY etc. It was obviously Jermaine Jenas’ gig until he messed it up.
Sensible options are either Mark Chapman or Gabby Logan. Left-field would be someone like Ronan Kemp given they’ve entrusted him with The One Show and, laugh at the suggestion all you want, but he would probably appeal to a younger audience that the BBC is targeting.
He will have no guilt about stitching up Lineker. I never forget the Fortune incident. Absolute 'see you next Tuesday'.
Will need AI to give him a personality
No preference as I do not watch.
I wound be surprised if they are personally and will have a similar person (s) in future and it will be not much different.
So a woke presenter would be great.
MOTD will continuously lose viewers as older viewers die off, current viewers move to other media channels for their content, and a new audience doesn't materialise.
They will be keen to avoid the rate of decline of Football Focus, and hopefully that will influence their list of potential presenters.
If I haven't gone to the game, I highly likely would have watched Spurs on TV by Sky/TNT or on a dodgy stream for the 3pm kick offs.
If Spurs have had a good win against a decent team or there's been a contentious decision I might stick it on to relive it again (the 4-1 against Villa I watched MOTD 2 with Chappers) but didn't have it on at all last weekend as I'd watched the 2pm ko against Ipswich and didn't want to put myself through it again.
Personally I like Lineker. He's a proper football man, he was a brilliant centre-forward and he comes across as a genuinely nice bloke. I always remember when he and Gazza signed my shirt outside WHL back when was 14. I was star struck. I get that he is marmite and some people can't stand him. Really couldn't care less for the politics, whether it is left or right wing, it doesn't make a bone of difference to me. He'll be sorely missed on MOTD, like Des Lynham was before him. He's been the comfort blanket for some good and bad times at Spurs.
Chappers has done his apprenticeship now and he should be given the full gig now. He's always been good value on MOTD2.
However, I do think the Beeb will try to tick all the Ethnicity & Inclusion boxes in the recruitment process. If thats the case, Alex Scott ticks more boxes than most. But does it really matter? I'd suggest Gaby Logan, Laura Woods, Kelly Cates and Kate Abdo/Scott do a brilliant job elsewhere on TV and wouldn't be out of place on MOTD.
In my mind ‘woke’ is not about everything that might piss an individual off, but about being aware of, and resisting, racism.
If you like you can check out the BBC podcast as to the origin of the term. If language develops and grows then the changes need to be agreed and accepted or they have no meaning.