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MATCH THREAD [+POST p19]: Walsall v Charlton Athletic: (FACR2): Saturday 30th Nov 2024: KO 15:00

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  • edited November 30
    HT: Warsaw 0-2 Charlton Athletic
  • Coventry and Taylor playing well. Edwards as well. 
  • HT 0-2 great game first half from what i can see, which is nothin', but anyway more of the same please second half...
  • NabySarr said:
    NabySarr said:
    Nug said:
    So Charlton... Why cant you play like this every week?

    Shrug GIF - Shrug - Discover  Share GIFs

    Lol at risk of bringing it up again… we DO play like this every week.

    It’s currently two nil because of one piece of quality play (cross & header) and a defensive mess up. Otherwise it’s goalless ten mins to half time and this thread is full of complaints about hoofball.
    We don’t play like this every week, come on.
    Literally 15 minutes into the game the commentators sussed that our tactic was give it to Gillesphey for a long ball to Ahadme. We haven’t changed our tactics at all.
    We’ve played the ball through midfield into players feet far more in this game than recent league 1 games 
    We have also quite clearly changed our tactics as we are using a diamond midfield. 

    Taylor, Coventry and Berry all being on the pitch definitely helps in terms of playing more football. Real question will be if it is good enough defensively against better opposition 
    We played with a diamond on Tuesday did we not?

    It’s incredible to me to see this happening in real time. Yes we’ve been struggling playing this way for almost two months but we magically cracked it in two training sessions since Burton on Tuesday.

    No - far more likely is that the processes are the same but the outcomes are better.
    It’s picking the right personnel. A diamond with 3 strikers (2 of them giants) is obviously going to lead to more long balls 

    A diamond midfield with Coventry, Taylor and Berry in is obviously a change and will lead to more football being played 
  • Mike said:
    First game in a while, can't believe quite how bad Anderson is 
    Odd. Looked like he was running the show in the first 20 minutes
  • edited November 30
    Joined the stream late. Just seen Coventry's cross on replay. Was very good, and great goal Ahadme
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  • fenaddick said:
    Enjoying Coventry in a more advanced role. I would’ve put Taylor there but it’s working well. I know Walsall are L2 but they are a very good L2 team. The three good L2 teams from
    last season are all performing pretty well in L1 so I don’t think the positives can be put down to the level fully 
    So who is playing where in the diamond?

    Is Taylor at the base and Coventry at the top?
  • supaclive said:
    Josh Edwards is the best player on the pitch by a mile.   Our football really isn't better, the opposition just much worse!
    Don’t let the facts get in the way of HMS Piss The League being launched at 17.00 hours 
    Pfft... How can it be HMS Piss the League... this is surely HMS Piss the FA Cup?
    No This is the turning point of a 10 match unbeaten run 😎
    NURSE!!


    ...Did someone call...
  • fenaddick said:
    Enjoying Coventry in a more advanced role. I would’ve put Taylor there but it’s working well. I know Walsall are L2 but they are a very good L2 team. The three good L2 teams from
    last season are all performing pretty well in L1 so I don’t think the positives can be put down to the level fully 
    So who is playing where in the diamond?

    Is Taylor at the base and Coventry at the top?
    Think its quite interchanging, but think its

    Taylor
    Anderson - Coventry
    Berry
  • fenaddick said:
    Enjoying Coventry in a more advanced role. I would’ve put Taylor there but it’s working well. I know Walsall are L2 but they are a very good L2 team. The three good L2 teams from
    last season are all performing pretty well in L1 so I don’t think the positives can be put down to the level fully 
    So who is playing where in the diamond?

    Is Taylor at the base and Coventry at the top?
    Taylor base, Coventry right, Anderson left, berry at top 
  • NabySarr said:
    NabySarr said:
    Nug said:
    So Charlton... Why cant you play like this every week?

    Shrug GIF - Shrug - Discover  Share GIFs

    Lol at risk of bringing it up again… we DO play like this every week.

    It’s currently two nil because of one piece of quality play (cross & header) and a defensive mess up. Otherwise it’s goalless ten mins to half time and this thread is full of complaints about hoofball.
    We don’t play like this every week, come on.
    Literally 15 minutes into the game the commentators sussed that our tactic was give it to Gillesphey for a long ball to Ahadme. We haven’t changed our tactics at all.
    We’ve played the ball through midfield into players feet far more in this game than recent league 1 games 
    We have also quite clearly changed our tactics as we are using a diamond midfield. 

    Taylor, Coventry and Berry all being on the pitch definitely helps in terms of playing more football. Real question will be if it is good enough defensively against better opposition 
    We played with a diamond on Tuesday did we not?

    It’s incredible to me to see this happening in real time. Yes we’ve been struggling playing this way for almost two months but we magically cracked it in two training sessions since Burton on Tuesday.

    No - far more likely is that the processes are the same but the outcomes are better.
    Quite clearly it’s a better performance especially in the final third, might well be because of weaker opposition but it’s not just because of better outcomes playing the same way. You’ve been defending the performances for weeks so maybe it’s hard to admit that actually it has been shit for 2 months and this is a better performance. Still plenty of time for us to go back to being shit in this game.
  • It's hard to believe this is (almost) the same team that performed so woefully at Burton. 
  • Nug said:
    NabySarr said:
    NabySarr said:
    Nug said:
    So Charlton... Why cant you play like this every week?

    Shrug GIF - Shrug - Discover  Share GIFs

    Lol at risk of bringing it up again… we DO play like this every week.

    It’s currently two nil because of one piece of quality play (cross & header) and a defensive mess up. Otherwise it’s goalless ten mins to half time and this thread is full of complaints about hoofball.
    We don’t play like this every week, come on.
    Literally 15 minutes into the game the commentators sussed that our tactic was give it to Gillesphey for a long ball to Ahadme. We haven’t changed our tactics at all.
    We’ve played the ball through midfield into players feet far more in this game than recent league 1 games 
    We have also quite clearly changed our tactics as we are using a diamond midfield. 

    Taylor, Coventry and Berry all being on the pitch definitely helps in terms of playing more football. Real question will be if it is good enough defensively against better opposition 
    We played with a diamond on Tuesday did we not?

    It’s incredible to me to see this happening in real time. Yes we’ve been struggling playing this way for almost two months but we magically cracked it in two training sessions since Burton on Tuesday.

    No - far more likely is that the processes are the same but the outcomes are better.
    Quite clearly it’s a better performance especially in the final third, might well be because of weaker opposition but it’s not just because of better outcomes playing the same way. You’ve been defending the performances for weeks so maybe it’s hard to admit that actually it has been shit for 2 months and this is a better performance. Still plenty of time for us to go back to being shit in this game.
    Probably helps today that its a Cup game, Warsaw have the luxury of being able to attack without the fear of losing in the League - Burton on the other hand as a relegation battler were more interested in defending on Tuesday, naturally always makes it a touch harder to break down a side with everyone behind the ball.
  • NabySarr said:
    fenaddick said:
    Enjoying Coventry in a more advanced role. I would’ve put Taylor there but it’s working well. I know Walsall are L2 but they are a very good L2 team. The three good L2 teams from
    last season are all performing pretty well in L1 so I don’t think the positives can be put down to the level fully 
    So who is playing where in the diamond?

    Is Taylor at the base and Coventry at the top?
    Taylor base, Coventry right, Anderson left, berry at top 
    Nice, now imagine the imperious Doherty slotting in there 🤤
    I know you’re joking but he could do the role Anderson is but with some better ball control
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  • supaclive said:
    Josh Edwards is the best player on the pitch by a mile.   Our football really isn't better, the opposition just much worse!
    Don’t let the facts get in the way of HMS Piss The League being launched at 17.00 hours 


    We are going to piss the FA cup and take out all the big teams on our way to Wembley 🤦🏻‍♂️

    Finish 12th in the League to prove we are the mediocre champions of a mediocre League 1. 🤷🏻‍♂️
  • NabySarr said:
    fenaddick said:
    Enjoying Coventry in a more advanced role. I would’ve put Taylor there but it’s working well. I know Walsall are L2 but they are a very good L2 team. The three good L2 teams from
    last season are all performing pretty well in L1 so I don’t think the positives can be put down to the level fully 
    So who is playing where in the diamond?

    Is Taylor at the base and Coventry at the top?
    Taylor base, Coventry right, Anderson left, berry at top 
    Nice, now imagine the imperious Doherty slotting in there 🤤
    I wouldnt mind seeing it actually - He was the Dobson replacement, but hasnt played at the base of Midfield in a diamond type role yet... Docherty's issue is we play him too far forward.
  • NabySarr said:
    fenaddick said:
    Enjoying Coventry in a more advanced role. I would’ve put Taylor there but it’s working well. I know Walsall are L2 but they are a very good L2 team. The three good L2 teams from
    last season are all performing pretty well in L1 so I don’t think the positives can be put down to the level fully 
    So who is playing where in the diamond?

    Is Taylor at the base and Coventry at the top?
    Taylor base, Coventry right, Anderson left, berry at top 
    Nice, now imagine the imperious Doherty slotting in there 🤤
    I wouldnt mind seeing it actually - He was the Dobson replacement, but hasnt played at the base of Midfield in a diamond type role yet... Docherty's issue is we play him too far forward.
    Agreed, i think he is a solid 3rd choice DM option behind Coventry and Taylor.
  • NabySarr said:
    fenaddick said:
    Enjoying Coventry in a more advanced role. I would’ve put Taylor there but it’s working well. I know Walsall are L2 but they are a very good L2 team. The three good L2 teams from
    last season are all performing pretty well in L1 so I don’t think the positives can be put down to the level fully 
    So who is playing where in the diamond?

    Is Taylor at the base and Coventry at the top?
    Taylor base, Coventry right, Anderson left, berry at top 
    Nice, now imagine the imperious Doherty slotting in there 🤤
    I wouldnt mind seeing it actually - He was the Dobson replacement, but hasnt played at the base of Midfield in a diamond type role yet... Docherty's issue is we play him too far forward.
    You need a ball player at the base, that’s why Taylor is there. Docherty isn’t good enough with the ball to play there
  • NabySarr said:
    fenaddick said:
    Enjoying Coventry in a more advanced role. I would’ve put Taylor there but it’s working well. I know Walsall are L2 but they are a very good L2 team. The three good L2 teams from
    last season are all performing pretty well in L1 so I don’t think the positives can be put down to the level fully 
    So who is playing where in the diamond?

    Is Taylor at the base and Coventry at the top?
    Taylor base, Coventry right, Anderson left, berry at top 
    Nice, now imagine the imperious Doherty slotting in there 🤤
    I wouldnt mind seeing it actually - He was the Dobson replacement, but hasnt played at the base of Midfield in a diamond type role yet... Docherty's issue is we play him too far forward.
    Agreed, i think he is a solid 3rd choice DM option behind Coventry and Taylor.
    Made captain and given the number 10, is now 3rd choice holding midfielder. Great signing 
  • Nothing to lose now for Walsall being a cup game, anything might happen. Jones will need to use subs well.
  • That new guy Taylor could be the answer, if only Jones could start him more in the league...
  • Louis Mendez: Charlton back out, no changes
  • tallboy said:
    F**k me! BBC Reporter on Final Score just described Charlton as being "Brilliant"!
    Was the BBC reporter Jason Nones?
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