https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c4g2lp19rppoVery similar to what happened to Eriksen, luckily the statement seems to suggest he has not had lasting harm done (beyond of course the shock and psychological issues.)
The fact he got swift treatment is fantastic but hopefully this isn't something that does become more prevalent as fitness demands and training become ever more stringent.
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Secondly, on reflection I probably shouldn't have used that gif as it's quite a serious situation so I'll edit it out. It wasn't meant to be used in a humorous way but it can be seen that way, apologies.
Finally, if you genuinely believe that the amount of cardiac arrests, collapses, pace makers, and all other kind of physical illnesses that are occurring in life across sports and general are normal, then I don't know what to say.
The reasoning of people working harder makes no sense. The fittest and healthiest people, shouldn't be collapsing and dying this consistently in sport. 8 recorded cardiac arrests in football during the 80s? Athletes dying has become fairly common over the last few years. I don't even know the figures anymore
Triathletes, footballers, American footballers etc suddenly collapsing, and people are attributing it to the intensity of sports now? Sorry but there just simply has to be more to it than that.
Many previously fit people are now unable to function normally after contracting Covid.
Here are some incidents of athletes collapsing:
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/tennis-player-collapses-miami-open-match-scary-scene.amp
https://www.espn.co.uk/football/story/_/id/40509645/egypt-international-ahmed-refaat-dies-aged-31
https://www.beinsports.com/en-us/soccer/articles-video/football-mourns-the-death-of-abdelaziz-barrada-former-psg-youth-player-2024-10-25
https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/juan-izquierdo-uruguayan-footballer-dies-aged-27-after-collapsing-on-pitch-13204583
https://www.google.com/amp/s/metro.co.uk/2024/10/20/runners-left-heartbroken-british-triathlete-dies-race-spain-21829958/amp/
https://www.espn.co.uk/nfl/story/_/id/38802749/buffalo-bills-damar-hamlin-cardiac-arrest
https://spectrumnews1.com/oh/columbus/news/2022/02/04/american-heart-month---how-could-this-happen-to-someone-who-s-done-all-the-right-things--
https://www.espn.co.uk/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/38260006/bronny-james-cardiac-arrest-caused-congenital-heart-defect
There's obviously a lot more than these reports. I feel like I can't use twitter as a source as anytime you show a video from there etc you get laughed at.
All I can go off is what I see, what I hear and what I've experienced. I've seen a ridiculous amount of health complications within my family, I won't discuss my own personal health too much, but I'm not the same person I was 3 years ago. I've gone from being 14-15 stone, able to run marathons and a regular gym goer, to nearly collapsing in sparring, to the point where my heart felt like it was genuinely going to explode (never had heart issues in my life), with diagnosis of all kinds of breathing issues. Some of it is more personal but it's massively attributed to my weight gain as I literally cannot exercise like I used to, even had medical guidance not to.
I'm very much a see it to believe it person, and with all the athletes having issues, complications I've seen in work, experiences among family and friends and then my own health. It just isn't normal, I obviously don't know the answer and if I did, it would make 0 difference, but I don't see how it's so normalised now and been attributed to people are now pushing themselves harder. That should be making us healthier to an extent, not more suspectible to heart complications.
With the advent of social media we see or hear about incidents in different sporting events around the globe which makes it feel worse than it was.
Ever since marathons started to be popular again around the globe in the 70's and the big marathons, there have been the odd death but the last research showed about 1 death in 100k from heart problems in Marathons.
Being born is still dangerous with 8.6 deaths from 100k, baby mortality in the UK.
https://x.com/JeffreyPeel/status/1849025564897608191?t=UZyp7A9LAKNhnFENs4JWtA&s=19
https://x.com/reformpharmanow/status/1848755580984279140?t=y1-hmVLadLQ4iVeLxhur1w&s=19
https://x.com/atensnut/status/1861797234993480034?t=-enCckcmxk2rw8b0jCXwgA&s=19
Of course these types of videos will be undermined and because they're from twitter, they're instantly nonsense to some people.
All in all, it's my biggest regret in my life taking that vaccine, and for a few people close to me who have had severe health complications (some of which never actually being diagnosed with covid or having a positive test.)
Pre-vaccination, 30 years free of any medial complications and biggest health scare was a root canal.
Post-vaccination, hospitalised with pneumonia, diagnosed with all kinds of medication and injections, can't physically move how I could previously because of breathing complications (confirmed by a doctor my health complications are directly linked), and then a lot more personal stuff. I've been advised not to train as hard as I previously have done. Usually the opposite advise you give a fat bloke who needs to drop a few stones because they're ''still trying to understand the long term implications of covid". Amazing how they authorised a vaccine for a disease they don't know the full long term effects for, yet.
I accept I'll be called a whack job etc, but this is my own personal experience, and my instinct prevented me being put into an induced coma where a medial professional overlooked my current health issues.
https://unherd.com/newsroom/sports-cardiologist-no-increase-in-cardiac-arrests-among-athletes/
https://www.factcheck.org/2023/01/scicheck-no-surge-in-athlete-deaths-contrary-to-widespread-anti-vaccine-claims/
https://newsroom.heart.org/news/ncaa-athletes-sudden-cardiac-death-rate-fell-over-20-years-still-higher-in-some-athletes
https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/medical-general-science/athletes-vaccines-and-cardiac-deaths
I think this is interesting: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_marathon_fatalities
See also this which shows 2023 had less incidents than 2018 and 2019: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_association_footballers_who_died_after_on-field_incidents
Frankly surprised the “there has to be SOME reason” fruit loops haven’t infected this thread (yet).
I watch and listen to all of it, and just based on how my body feels, I firmly believe I took a vaccine that wasn't tested efficiently, and I regret it. I think all of them (vaxxers, anti-vaxxers etc) will be promoting to suit whatever agenda they're pushing, no different from politicians.
We do have more access to the news, but it's not like the Internet came out yesterday, we still had the world wide Web then newspapers and radio etc, I feel like that's just another convenient coincidence.
All in all, I can't prove it, and evidently neither can the experts, as I've literally been told they don't know the long term effects of the virus and all of its complications. My point being here, if the medical experts themselves don't truly understand a disease, how can there be a fully safe vaccination to fight/prevent it?
My instinct says, the vaccine wasn't fit for purpose, and it's lottery has ruined as well as saved people's lives. Can I prove that? Probably not, but neither can 99% of people who says it was and will just point you in the direction of someone who says so.
I'm still skeptical about how it all went down, but that's a whole other story.
I hope we see less of these cardiac arrests and collapses amongst athletes and fans at games on that final note. Horrid to see.
Just want to make it clear as well I'm not an 'anti-vaxxer' it's just this particular vaccine I have an issue with. Also how were treated because of it. People's jobs and livelihoods threatened in turn for not taking a vaccine. I'm sorry but it was all wrong and a very weird time.
We can't know the long term effects because it is so new, that is why the downplaying of a virus that may well cause far more ill health in the future, is so crazy.
I also didn't notice when I officially had it, I only did because a group at work had it, and a test was mandatory. I felt no difference what so ever.
I felt awful for around 1-2 weeks after the second vaccine, I only took it because my Mum had booked us New York and I didn't want her to lose the money. Otherwise I never would have taken it as I always felt fine but only stayed off sick as at work it was mandatory.
Of course you can then put it down to a slow burner, but I'm just telling you my timeline of events. I truly only ever felt really sick after I had the 2nd vaccine. A common cold had done worse to me prior to that.
When my Wife was in her teens and 20's (now in her late 50's) they had 3 heart attacks in the crowd at the Professional matches she covered when she was with the St John's ambulance. The games weren't stopped and had no publicity other than a few lines in the local paper.
Leroy Ambrose has given various examples above from American research from the ones I have read.
I wonder what processed food over several decades is doing to the health of people ?
People have been dying during sport for a long long time.
The first marathon runner died at the end of his run and that was in ancient Greece.
If people can provide some statistical evidence then fine but until then it's just that people are noticing it in a 24 hour news cycle.
Also on the point of not fully understanding a disease vs a fully safe vaccination, it may seem counter intuitive but you don't need to understand the long term impacts of a disease to produce a safe vaccine for it. The two are separate. And whilst me and you might think we watch and listen to all of it, we can't even begin to understand the finer details without spending years studying biology, vaccinology etc. I just worry there's too many internet experts who base an opinion based on someone else's opinion without looking for objectivity and who probably don't understand the most basic concepts in biology.
Anyway, I don't think this thread should be derailed into a debate about the vaccine so I personally, am going to leave it there.