Don't worry about the kids, worry about the senior professionals incapable of retaining possession of the ball, of understanding when to press or how to defend a penalty box.
Karoy Anderson will be fine in time, he has the right level of desire and aggression. His touch of a football will improve but he is a baby in midfielder terms. If we had a player who had the basics he had and could find a final ball or score they would be getting sold to a Premier league club in January as they are rarer than rocking horse shit
Tupac is a winger who gets played everywhere but the wing. And we don't play with wingers. Wingers by their nature are inconsistent, its a huge roll of the dice playing him as a wing back and one that won't work.
I hear what the original poster is saying but I don't think fearlessness is our youngsters problem. When we had a handful of youngsters come through before the game and our club was full of characters, leaders and example setters who would protect, support and deliver bollockings and the second has sadly vanished from the game. Since the Bowyer squad we don't have the players to not take any shit and stick up for each other apart from Mitchell.
I like Anderson. I think he’s brave, he has an engine, and technically he’s pretty decent as well being able to control and keep the ball in tight spaces.
His passing, on the other hand whether short, backwards or long really has not improved over two seasons and that’s worrying for me.
He does not even have a tendency to under hit the ball - he constantly does this. To me it should be an easy fix - yet it has not been, and I’m miffed as to why - because that is nothing to do with the players around him.
“Technically he’s pretty decent as well as being able to control and keep the ball in tight spaces”
I like Anderson. I think he’s brave, he has an engine, and technically he’s pretty decent as well being able to control and keep the ball in tight spaces.
His passing, on the other hand whether short, backwards or long really has not improved over two seasons and that’s worrying for me.
He does not even have a tendency to under hit the ball - he constantly does this. To me it should be an easy fix - yet it has not been, and I’m miffed as to why - because that is nothing to do with the players around him.
“Technically he’s pretty decent as well as being able to control and keep the ball in tight spaces”
I’ve seen every game he’s played and I disagree.
Missed more than you and have watched on streams but his strengths are clearly his energy, fitness, pressing, aggression etc. His technical ability doesn't stand out at this level and he doesn't add creativity or flair to our midfield either.
Pretty similar to how Jordan Cousins was for us about 10 years ago. Cousins made himself a regular pretty quickly in the division above. Anderson hasn't managed that yet. Still time and our style doesn't help, but I'd hope to see improvements in his passing and attacking play sooner than later.
I like Anderson. I think he’s brave, he has an engine, and technically he’s pretty decent as well being able to control and keep the ball in tight spaces.
His passing, on the other hand whether short, backwards or long really has not improved over two seasons and that’s worrying for me.
He does not even have a tendency to under hit the ball - he constantly does this. To me it should be an easy fix - yet it has not been, and I’m miffed as to why - because that is nothing to do with the players around him.
“Technically he’s pretty decent as well as being able to control and keep the ball in tight spaces”
I’ve seen every game he’s played and I disagree.
Missed more than you and have watched on streams but his strengths are clearly his energy, fitness, pressing, aggression etc. His technical ability doesn't stand out at this level and he doesn't add creativity or flair to our midfield either.
Pretty similar to how Jordan Cousins was for us about 10 years ago. Cousins made himself a regular pretty quickly in the division above. Anderson hasn't managed that yet. Still time and our style doesn't help, but I'd hope to see improvements in his passing and attacking play sooner than later.
…so, essentially, you’ve found four ways of saying “he runs around a lot”!
I like Anderson. I think he’s brave, he has an engine, and technically he’s pretty decent as well being able to control and keep the ball in tight spaces.
His passing, on the other hand whether short, backwards or long really has not improved over two seasons and that’s worrying for me.
He does not even have a tendency to under hit the ball - he constantly does this. To me it should be an easy fix - yet it has not been, and I’m miffed as to why - because that is nothing to do with the players around him.
“Technically he’s pretty decent as well as being able to control and keep the ball in tight spaces”
I’ve seen every game he’s played and I disagree.
Didn’t know you were an avid viewer of Jamaican internationals. Care to elaborate as to why you disagree?
I’ve seen most of the games he has played as well, but as I’ve mentioned previously, we would all be scouts if watching games and making comments on a forum were the qualities you needed to be one.
For me I do think is decent technically. He can take the ball under pressure, he can turn a man, play the ball in tight spaces and also carry the ball.
That is all technical ability.
Do I think he’s the finished article or that he should be in the first team. Not really - but I think he’s has bags of potential.
I like Anderson. I think he’s brave, he has an engine, and technically he’s pretty decent as well being able to control and keep the ball in tight spaces.
His passing, on the other hand whether short, backwards or long really has not improved over two seasons and that’s worrying for me.
He does not even have a tendency to under hit the ball - he constantly does this. To me it should be an easy fix - yet it has not been, and I’m miffed as to why - because that is nothing to do with the players around him.
“Technically he’s pretty decent as well as being able to control and keep the ball in tight spaces”
I’ve seen every game he’s played and I disagree.
Didn’t know you were an avid viewer of Jamaican internationals. Care to elaborate as to why you disagree?
I’ve seen most of the games he has played as well, but as I’ve mentioned previously, we would all be scouts if watching games and making comments on a forum were the qualities you needed to be one.
For me I do think is decent technically. He can take the ball under pressure, he can turn a man, play the ball in tight spaces and also carry the ball.
That is all technical ability.
Do I think he’s the finished article or that he should be in the first team. Not really - but I think he’s has bags of potential.
I get what you mean, he definitely has moments of looking good on the ball, but he also has plenty of poor touches and moments where a more technical player would offer something extra.
If I was a scout for a Championship club who play a possession game I wouldn’t be paying too much attention to Anderson at the moment. If he can tidy up those areas of his game then yes I agree the potential is there, but it’s a big if, we haven’t yet seen clear progress from where he was a year or so ago.
I thought Karoy looked much better under Adkins, strangely enough. He battled but could hold the ball in tight spaces and play a through ball. This season he has arguably been one of our worst players. He's not progressed, if anything he's gone backwards.
Last year TC came across as very lazy as he frequently pulled out of tackles and didn’t track back on defense. This year that hasn’t been a problem as I suspect his improved strength has given him more confidence in combative situations. However, his struggles to be accurate on crosses and his inability to score is currently on display. That being said, he is far from being one of the major problems this year.
Karoy is however one of our major issues. Blaming some of the more experienced player disappointments for Karoys issues is silly. He is just not good enough to play at this level at this stage of his career and I have some doubts if he ever will be.
Campbell is someone who in the summer I wouldn’t have been fussed if he moved on.
Instead, he has clearly put in a lot of hard work in the gym and tried to transform his game to become a more physical player that can make a difference. It’s a big improvement in just a year.
I like Anderson. I think he’s brave, he has an engine, and technically he’s pretty decent as well being able to control and keep the ball in tight spaces.
His passing, on the other hand whether short, backwards or long really has not improved over two seasons and that’s worrying for me.
He does not even have a tendency to under hit the ball - he constantly does this. To me it should be an easy fix - yet it has not been, and I’m miffed as to why - because that is nothing to do with the players around him.
“Technically he’s pretty decent as well as being able to control and keep the ball in tight spaces”
I’ve seen every game he’s played and I disagree.
Didn’t know you were an avid viewer of Jamaican internationals. Care to elaborate as to why you disagree?
I’ve seen most of the games he has played as well, but as I’ve mentioned previously, we would all be scouts if watching games and making comments on a forum were the qualities you needed to be one.
For me I do think is decent technically. He can take the ball under pressure, he can turn a man, play the ball in tight spaces and also carry the ball.
That is all technical ability.
Do I think he’s the finished article or that he should be in the first team. Not really - but I think he’s has bags of potential.
The most recent example of why I disagree was when he was clean through yesterday and predictably could not control the ball. I didn’t expect him to for a moment.
I’ve met Karoy he’s a smashing lad, but presently he offers bags of effort, energy, running and tacking.
I disagree because his control is poor, although better than his passing which is dreadful.
Anderson is the last player who should be scapegoated for our shocking midfield. He was the only one who showed any desire or movement yesterday. We don't improve when he's dropped or subbed, which would be the case if he was as bad as this forum suggests.
Also yeah, yesterday was possibly Karoy's best game this season and he could have easily had an assist too
Christ - he’s had some bad ones then.
hugely frustrating player who should be nowhere near the starting XI, not helped by the fact that most of NJ’s midfield signings have been absolutely dogshit.
Anderson runs around a lot and closes down, hence Jones likes him. Other than that at the moment he’s offering nothing
Anderson is the last player who should be scapegoated for our shocking midfield. He was the only one who showed any desire or movement yesterday. We don't improve when he's dropped or subbed, which would be the case if he was as bad as this forum suggests.
We don’t improve when anyone is dropped, because there are @6 regulars that are not good enough for L1 (under the current manager).
Stopped reading original post at the woke nonsense line. What's the point of comparing two players, when only one of them has played in generation when there's instant online feedback over multiple websites.
You could have just said you don’t rate either of them without adding that woke fear nonsense.
Indont think Anderson should be anywhere near our first team but the one attribute I’d say he definitely has is that he is fearless.
He wouldn’t be if Berry, Allan Campbell and Docherty were performing to the level we expected.
If Berry or Docherty were any good , they wouldn’t have come to us .
That just isn't true though and it's a daft position to take because it ignores the reality of the problem. We've had this issue for years and it doesn't seem to change no matter who the manager is. We do a lot of bad business for sure but our midfield should have in it a player we signed from a Premier League academy who was wanted by Sheff Weds in the Championship when we went for him, a player who won L1 a few years ago and then played 90 games in the Championship, and a player went up through the leagues in the past few years and scored two Premier League goals last season. Berry might be declining given his age but these aren't useless unwanted players, they're good players at this level who we can't seem to be able to get anything out of at all.
We're paying good wages to get these players to join us and then turning them into players who can't manage 5 yard passes within weeks. That's what we need to focus on, there's plenty of teams at this level who would have happily had Greg Docherty in their team and you just know they would have got a tune out of him. Why are we still killing players despite bringing in a new manager?
I thought young players were supposed to be fearless?
In answer to this statement - how about I thought the fans were meant to be fans. Fan being short for "Fanatic"
Instead too many fans are keen to slag off LITERALLY everything the club do.
The youth players The senior management The quality of the football The manager The pitch The fan zone The fucking fried chicken in the fan zone
Admittedly we are not in a great phase of our clubs existence right now but we are also not destitute and we, as fans, need to get away from the sense of entitlement some people have. The glory days are history just as the really dark days are.
There are some fans who go very quiet when things are going ok but the minute we lose a game they are there - front and centre - with a shit-eating grin on their face saying "I told you so". Just remember where we have been and all the highs and lows we have all encountered in our lifetimes with this club. It's never a smooth ride, it's rarely a barrel of laughs but we have all done it and we will all continue to do so because you can't just walk away from it. Like it or not we are all in love with this club and we are all Charlton-pissed.
The youth players need encouragement not booing and abuse. The senior management may not be perfect but the situation off the field is more stablethan it's been for a while now and will take time to see dividends. we have improved off the field and it will take time to tweak and filter down I agree the football itself is dire and boring but that isn't going to improve until we get some creativity in the team - which can't be addressed until January at best. The club know we are undercooked in that department The manager - the jury is very much out at present. I can't disagree there The pitch is likelynot fully bedded in and will only get better in the coming years - I hope so anyway The fan zone is always busy and should be applauded. It is certainly not anything to dig the club out for The Fried Chicken - never tried it so can't comment - but is it really worth pissing our pants over. It's football food not a Michel Roux Brasserie
I know I am more rose-tinted than many and I too am disappointed with the club at the moment and the season in general But I will still be coming back every year, paying my money, supporting the club in any way I can because I just can't help it. We are all the same.
Win, lose or draw - we're all Addicks and we have a part to play to get this club off it's knees
I thought young players were supposed to be fearless?
In answer to this statement - how about I thought the fans were meant to be fans. Fan being short for "Fanatic"
Instead too many fans are keen to slag off LITERALLY everything the club do.
The youth players The senior management The quality of the football The manager The pitch The fan zone The fucking fried chicken in the fan zone
Admittedly we are not in a great phase of our clubs existence right now but we are also not destitute and we, as fans, need to get away from the sense of entitlement some people have. The glory days are history just as the really dark days are.
There are some fans who go very quiet when things are going ok but the minute we lose a game they are there - front and centre - with a shit-eating grin on their face saying "I told you so". Just remember where we have been and all the highs and lows we have all encountered in our lifetimes with this club. It's never a smooth ride, it's rarely a barrel of laughs but we have all done it and we will all continue to do so because you can't just walk away from it. Like it or not we are all in love with this club and we are all Charlton-pissed.
The youth players need encouragement not booing and abuse. The senior management may not be perfect but the situation off the field is more stablethan it's been for a while now and will take time to see dividends. we have improved off the field and it will take time to tweak and filter down I agree the football itself is dire and boring but that isn't going to improve until we get some creativity in the team - which can't be addressed until January at best. The club know we are undercooked in that department The manager - the jury is very much out at present. I can't disagree there The pitch is likelynot fully bedded in and will only get better in the coming years - I hope so anyway The fan zone is always busy and should be applauded. It is certainly not anything to dig the club out for The Fried Chicken - never tried it so can't comment - but is it really worth pissing our pants over. It's football food not a Michel Roux Brasserie
I know I am more rose-tinted than many and I too am disappointed with the club at the moment and the season in general But I will still be coming back every year, paying my money, supporting the club in any way I can because I just can't help it. We are all the same.
Win, lose or draw - we're all Addicks and we have a part to play to get this club off it's knees
Good that club know we need more creativity. However if we’re sticking with Jones, will he use those type of players? He’s known for not using formations with wingers, even as far back as managing our u21s over 10 years ago. He purposely avoided signing a CM who could even remotely be described as a playmaker, and took a long time to give Taylor a few games in midfield.
The frustrating thing is it’s not as if Docherty, Allan Campbell and Berry add non-stop running, relentless pressing and aggression anyway. If they did maybe NJs tactics would be more successful.
I thought young players were supposed to be fearless?
In answer to this statement - how about I thought the fans were meant to be fans. Fan being short for "Fanatic"
Instead too many fans are keen to slag off LITERALLY everything the club do.
The youth players The senior management The quality of the football The manager The pitch The fan zone The fucking fried chicken in the fan zone
Admittedly we are not in a great phase of our clubs existence right now but we are also not destitute and we, as fans, need to get away from the sense of entitlement some people have. The glory days are history just as the really dark days are.
There are some fans who go very quiet when things are going ok but the minute we lose a game they are there - front and centre - with a shit-eating grin on their face saying "I told you so". Just remember where we have been and all the highs and lows we have all encountered in our lifetimes with this club. It's never a smooth ride, it's rarely a barrel of laughs but we have all done it and we will all continue to do so because you can't just walk away from it. Like it or not we are all in love with this club and we are all Charlton-pissed.
The youth players need encouragement not booing and abuse. The senior management may not be perfect but the situation off the field is more stablethan it's been for a while now and will take time to see dividends. we have improved off the field and it will take time to tweak and filter down I agree the football itself is dire and boring but that isn't going to improve until we get some creativity in the team - which can't be addressed until January at best. The club know we are undercooked in that department The manager - the jury is very much out at present. I can't disagree there The pitch is likelynot fully bedded in and will only get better in the coming years - I hope so anyway The fan zone is always busy and should be applauded. It is certainly not anything to dig the club out for The Fried Chicken - never tried it so can't comment - but is it really worth pissing our pants over. It's football food not a Michel Roux Brasserie
I know I am more rose-tinted than many and I too am disappointed with the club at the moment and the season in general But I will still be coming back every year, paying my money, supporting the club in any way I can because I just can't help it. We are all the same.
Win, lose or draw - we're all Addicks and we have a part to play to get this club off it's knees
Not LITERALLY from me. Of your list the youth players are a credit to themselves and our club. The rest should be slagged off though. However there was a massive positive club breakthrough on Saturday as all the Curbs stand turnstiles were working. Trouble is the crowd was so low they weren’t much needed.
I thought young players were supposed to be fearless?
In answer to this statement - how about I thought the fans were meant to be fans. Fan being short for "Fanatic"
Instead too many fans are keen to slag off LITERALLY everything the club do.
The youth players The senior management The quality of the football The manager The pitch The fan zone The fucking fried chicken in the fan zone
Admittedly we are not in a great phase of our clubs existence right now but we are also not destitute and we, as fans, need to get away from the sense of entitlement some people have. The glory days are history just as the really dark days are.
There are some fans who go very quiet when things are going ok but the minute we lose a game they are there - front and centre - with a shit-eating grin on their face saying "I told you so". Just remember where we have been and all the highs and lows we have all encountered in our lifetimes with this club. It's never a smooth ride, it's rarely a barrel of laughs but we have all done it and we will all continue to do so because you can't just walk away from it. Like it or not we are all in love with this club and we are all Charlton-pissed.
The youth players need encouragement not booing and abuse. The senior management may not be perfect but the situation off the field is more stablethan it's been for a while now and will take time to see dividends. we have improved off the field and it will take time to tweak and filter down I agree the football itself is dire and boring but that isn't going to improve until we get some creativity in the team - which can't be addressed until January at best. The club know we are undercooked in that department The manager - the jury is very much out at present. I can't disagree there The pitch is likelynot fully bedded in and will only get better in the coming years - I hope so anyway The fan zone is always busy and should be applauded. It is certainly not anything to dig the club out for The Fried Chicken - never tried it so can't comment - but is it really worth pissing our pants over. It's football food not a Michel Roux Brasserie
I know I am more rose-tinted than many and I too am disappointed with the club at the moment and the season in general But I will still be coming back every year, paying my money, supporting the club in any way I can because I just can't help it. We are all the same.
Win, lose or draw - we're all Addicks and we have a part to play to get this club off it's knees
Good that club know we need more creativity. However if we’re sticking with Jones, will he use those type of players? He’s known for not using formations with wingers, even as far back as managing our u21s over 10 years ago. He purposely avoided signing a CM who could even remotely be described as a playmaker, and took a long time to give Taylor a few games in midfield.
The frustrating thing is it’s not as if Docherty, Allan Campbell and Berry add non-stop running, relentless pressing and aggression anyway. If they did maybe NJs tactics would be more successful.
I think as things stand there is a problem with the manager. he's s trying to recreate the situation he had at Luton but I suspect it was more luck than expert judgement. He had two awesome wing-backs back then (James Justin and Jack Stacey) - imagine if we had Kayne Ramsay and someone equally potent one the left and they were both fit all season - we'd be in a different situation altogether. Berry and Docherty may have been the answer a few years ago but they are not the right age for Nathan's intensive style.
The team's lack of pace isn't helped by them and you can't say Coventry and Taylor are especially quick. So our midfield is NOT dynamic at all. All very "meat and potatoes" , very predictable and no excitement. This obviously needs addressing
I thought young players were supposed to be fearless?
In answer to this statement - how about I thought the fans were meant to be fans. Fan being short for "Fanatic"
Instead too many fans are keen to slag off LITERALLY everything the club do.
The youth players The senior management The quality of the football The manager The pitch The fan zone The fucking fried chicken in the fan zone
Admittedly we are not in a great phase of our clubs existence right now but we are also not destitute and we, as fans, need to get away from the sense of entitlement some people have. The glory days are history just as the really dark days are.
There are some fans who go very quiet when things are going ok but the minute we lose a game they are there - front and centre - with a shit-eating grin on their face saying "I told you so". Just remember where we have been and all the highs and lows we have all encountered in our lifetimes with this club. It's never a smooth ride, it's rarely a barrel of laughs but we have all done it and we will all continue to do so because you can't just walk away from it. Like it or not we are all in love with this club and we are all Charlton-pissed.
The youth players need encouragement not booing and abuse. The senior management may not be perfect but the situation off the field is more stablethan it's been for a while now and will take time to see dividends. we have improved off the field and it will take time to tweak and filter down I agree the football itself is dire and boring but that isn't going to improve until we get some creativity in the team - which can't be addressed until January at best. The club know we are undercooked in that department The manager - the jury is very much out at present. I can't disagree there The pitch is likelynot fully bedded in and will only get better in the coming years - I hope so anyway The fan zone is always busy and should be applauded. It is certainly not anything to dig the club out for The Fried Chicken - never tried it so can't comment - but is it really worth pissing our pants over. It's football food not a Michel Roux Brasserie
I know I am more rose-tinted than many and I too am disappointed with the club at the moment and the season in general But I will still be coming back every year, paying my money, supporting the club in any way I can because I just can't help it. We are all the same.
Win, lose or draw - we're all Addicks and we have a part to play to get this club off it's knees
Good that club know we need more creativity. However if we’re sticking with Jones, will he use those type of players? He’s known for not using formations with wingers, even as far back as managing our u21s over 10 years ago. He purposely avoided signing a CM who could even remotely be described as a playmaker, and took a long time to give Taylor a few games in midfield.
The frustrating thing is it’s not as if Docherty, Allan Campbell and Berry add non-stop running, relentless pressing and aggression anyway. If they did maybe NJs tactics would be more successful.
I think as things stand there is a problem with the manager. he's s trying to recreate the situation he had at Luton but I suspect it was more luck than expert judgement. He had two awesome wing-backs back then (James Justin and Jack Stacey) - imagine if we had Kayne Ramsay and someone equally potent one the left and they were both fit all season - we'd be in a different situation altogether. Berry and Docherty may have been the answer a few years ago but they are not the right age for Nathan's intensive style.
The team's lack of pace isn't helped by them and you can't say Coventry and Taylor are especially quick. So our midfield is NOT dynamic at all. All very "meat and potatoes" , very predictable and no excitement. This obviously needs addressing
Docherty has only just turned 28, and literally lives the life of the consummate pro with his diet and training.
No idea why we have turned him into a bloke who looks like he’s never seen a football before, but I don’t think it’s the intensity of Jones style - Docherty is a fit bloke, in his peak fitness years.
Though I know you are closer to the training ground etc, so maybe you’ve heard something or seen different?
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Karoy Anderson will be fine in time, he has the right level of desire and aggression. His touch of a football will improve but he is a baby in midfielder terms. If we had a player who had the basics he had and could find a final ball or score they would be getting sold to a Premier league club in January as they are rarer than rocking horse shit
Tupac is a winger who gets played everywhere but the wing. And we don't play with wingers. Wingers by their nature are inconsistent, its a huge roll of the dice playing him as a wing back and one that won't work.
I hear what the original poster is saying but I don't think fearlessness is our youngsters problem. When we had a handful of youngsters come through before the game and our club was full of characters, leaders and example setters who would protect, support and deliver bollockings and the second has sadly vanished from the game. Since the Bowyer squad we don't have the players to not take any shit and stick up for each other apart from Mitchell.
I’ve seen every game he’s played and I disagree.
Pretty similar to how Jordan Cousins was for us about 10 years ago. Cousins made himself a regular pretty quickly in the division above. Anderson hasn't managed that yet. Still time and our style doesn't help, but I'd hope to see improvements in his passing and attacking play sooner than later.
I’ve seen most of the games he has played as well, but as I’ve mentioned previously, we would all be scouts if watching games and making comments on a forum were the qualities you needed to be one.
For me I do think is decent technically. He can take the ball under pressure, he can turn a man, play the ball in tight spaces and also carry the ball.
That is all technical ability.
If I was a scout for a Championship club who play a possession game I wouldn’t be paying too much attention to Anderson at the moment. If he can tidy up those areas of his game then yes I agree the potential is there, but it’s a big if, we haven’t yet seen clear progress from where he was a year or so ago.
Karoy is however one of our major issues. Blaming some of the more experienced player disappointments for Karoys issues is silly. He is just not good enough to play at this level at this stage of his career and I have some doubts if he ever will be.
Instead, he has clearly put in a lot of hard work in the gym and tried to transform his game to become a more physical player that can make a difference. It’s a big improvement in just a year.
The “woke” stuff is just laughable.
I didn’t expect him to for a moment.
I’ve met Karoy he’s a smashing lad, but presently he offers bags of effort, energy, running and tacking.
I disagree because his control is poor, although better than his passing which is dreadful.
I hope in time he becomes an excellent player.
hugely frustrating player who should be nowhere near the starting XI, not helped by the fact that most of NJ’s midfield signings have been absolutely dogshit.
Anderson runs around a lot and closes down, hence Jones likes him. Other than that at the moment he’s offering nothing
Three duds in my opinion.
We're paying good wages to get these players to join us and then turning them into players who can't manage 5 yard passes within weeks. That's what we need to focus on, there's plenty of teams at this level who would have happily had Greg Docherty in their team and you just know they would have got a tune out of him. Why are we still killing players despite bringing in a new manager?
I thought young players were supposed to be fearless?
In answer to this statement - how about I thought the fans were meant to be fans. Fan being short for "Fanatic"
Instead too many fans are keen to slag off LITERALLY everything the club do.
The youth players
The senior management
The quality of the football
The manager
The pitch
The fan zone
The fucking fried chicken in the fan zone
Admittedly we are not in a great phase of our clubs existence right now but we are also not destitute and we, as fans, need to get away from the sense of entitlement some people have. The glory days are history just as the really dark days are.
There are some fans who go very quiet when things are going ok but the minute we lose a game they are there - front and centre - with a shit-eating grin on their face saying "I told you so". Just remember where we have been and all the highs and lows we have all encountered in our lifetimes with this club. It's never a smooth ride, it's rarely a barrel of laughs but we have all done it and we will all continue to do so because you can't just walk away from it. Like it or not we are all in love with this club and we are all Charlton-pissed.
The youth players need encouragement not booing and abuse.
The senior management may not be perfect but the situation off the field is more stablethan it's been for a while now and will take time to see dividends. we have improved off the field and it will take time to tweak and filter down
I agree the football itself is dire and boring but that isn't going to improve until we get some creativity in the team - which can't be addressed until January at best. The club know we are undercooked in that department
The manager - the jury is very much out at present. I can't disagree there
The pitch is likelynot fully bedded in and will only get better in the coming years - I hope so anyway
The fan zone is always busy and should be applauded. It is certainly not anything to dig the club out for
The Fried Chicken - never tried it so can't comment - but is it really worth pissing our pants over. It's football food not a Michel Roux Brasserie
I know I am more rose-tinted than many and I too am disappointed with the club at the moment and the season in general But I will still be coming back every year, paying my money, supporting the club in any way I can because I just can't help it. We are all the same.
Win, lose or draw - we're all Addicks and we have a part to play to get this club off it's knees
The frustrating thing is it’s not as if Docherty, Allan Campbell and Berry add non-stop running, relentless pressing and aggression anyway. If they did maybe NJs tactics would be more successful.
Of your list the youth players are a credit to themselves and our club.
The rest should be slagged off though.
However there was a massive positive club breakthrough on Saturday as all the Curbs stand turnstiles were working.
Trouble is the crowd was so low they weren’t much needed.
The team's lack of pace isn't helped by them and you can't say Coventry and Taylor are especially quick. So our midfield is NOT dynamic at all. All very "meat and potatoes" , very predictable and no excitement. This obviously needs addressing
No idea why we have turned him into a bloke who looks like he’s never seen a football before, but I don’t think it’s the intensity of Jones style - Docherty is a fit bloke, in his peak fitness years.
or seen different?