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  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,293


    Joe Denly skippering an interesting side at the Hong Kong 6s 
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 40,379
    edited October 31
    Jack Leaning is joining Sussex "by mutual consent"

    https://www.kentcricket.co.uk/news/jack-leaning-leaves-kent-after-six-seasons/
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 12,933
    Amazed he’s got a deal there 
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,293
    Don't know what to make of this from a Sussex perspective. We do lack top order experience but Leaning hasn't impressed me at all from what I've seen of him for Kent. Probably will bat 5 with Tom Clark at 3 and James Coles at 4.


  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,385
    https://sussexcricket.co.uk/news/sussex-sign-jack-leaning-three-year-deal

    3 year contract is a major surprise too. A useful white ball player with his bowling as well, but after his average red ball performances for a Div 2 struggler, it's hard to see how he can improve a team that finished 4th in Div 1!
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,293
    edited October 31
    https://sussexcricket.co.uk/news/sussex-sign-jack-leaning-three-year-deal

    3 year contract is a major surprise too. A useful white ball player with his bowling as well, but after his average red ball performances for a Div 2 struggler, it's hard to see how he can improve a team that finished 4th in Div 1!
    Our top order is Swiss cheese. A lot of young players with buckets of potential but lacking an experienced county head that could come in at 30/3 or something and grind out a knock. John Simpson seems to be the player that can do that for us. 

    Not convinced Leaning is that man nor do I see where he fits into our white ball setup either where I'd rather develop Oli Carter or Charlie Tear. 
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 40,379
    edited October 31
    With the advent of Jaydn, Ekansh and Dawkins, we were over burdened with batters who might serve as "blockers" to their development. That's not to say that those youngsters deserve a starting spot when everyone is available (Crawley, Compton, Northeast, Muyeye, DBD, Evison & Finch likely to be the initial top seven) but having Leaning and Joe would have made things even more complicated.

    Their departure/change of role also means that some money has been freed up because the contracts that the three youngsters are on will be at the lower end of the scale by comparison. 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 12,933
    MarcusH26 said:
    https://sussexcricket.co.uk/news/sussex-sign-jack-leaning-three-year-deal

    3 year contract is a major surprise too. A useful white ball player with his bowling as well, but after his average red ball performances for a Div 2 struggler, it's hard to see how he can improve a team that finished 4th in Div 1!
    Our top order is Swiss cheese. A lot of young players with buckets of potential but lacking an experienced county head that could come in at 30/3 or something and grind out a knock. John Simpson seems to be the player that can do that for us. 

    Not convinced Leaning is that man nor do I see where he fits into our white ball setup either where I'd rather develop Oli Carter or Charlie Tear. 
    Leaning definitely isn’t that man! I genuinely think this is a sensational bit of business from the Kent hierarchy/ Leaning’s agent 
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,293
    fenaddick said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    https://sussexcricket.co.uk/news/sussex-sign-jack-leaning-three-year-deal

    3 year contract is a major surprise too. A useful white ball player with his bowling as well, but after his average red ball performances for a Div 2 struggler, it's hard to see how he can improve a team that finished 4th in Div 1!
    Our top order is Swiss cheese. A lot of young players with buckets of potential but lacking an experienced county head that could come in at 30/3 or something and grind out a knock. John Simpson seems to be the player that can do that for us. 

    Not convinced Leaning is that man nor do I see where he fits into our white ball setup either where I'd rather develop Oli Carter or Charlie Tear. 
    Leaning definitely isn’t that man! I genuinely think this is a sensational bit of business from the Kent hierarchy/ Leaning’s agent 
    I thought we'd moved away from this type of singing tbh, most of our moves from other counties have been on the younger side with Tom Price and Dom Goodman coming in from Gloucestershire 

    We've brought Danny Briggs back for T20 which I understand, he's the leading wicket taker in the format and a great mentor for our younger spinners. But Leaning feels like a 2020 Sussex signing when we were signing older county pros on long deals that just didn't work out. 
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 40,379
    We still have in "limbo" Crawley, Billings, Cohen, Quinn and Klaassen and also the need to find at least another three seamers (including an overseas and depending on whether we extend the contracts of Cohen, Quinn or Klaassen) plus a second spinner. 

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  • 000__Jaaaaay__000
    000__Jaaaaay__000 Posts: 2,347
    edited October 31
    Jack leaning, a player who flattered to deceive. Blows hot and cold, more so cold. Not been a fan of his for a good few years now and a move is probably best for both parties. His agent has played a blinder getting a 3 year deal out of Sussex 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 12,933
    Pro deal for Curtiss, despite the fact the link and photo say rookie 

    https://www.kentcricket.co.uk/news/olly-curtiss-signs-two-year-rookie-contract-at-kent/
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 40,379
    fenaddick said:
    Pro deal for Curtiss, despite the fact the link and photo say rookie 

    https://www.kentcricket.co.uk/news/olly-curtiss-signs-two-year-rookie-contract-at-kent/
    A Rookie contract is a Pro contract. It is one that is banded so far as salary is concerned and funded by the ECB. It is the first professional contract for a youngster not automatically given a full contract. 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 12,933
    fenaddick said:
    Pro deal for Curtiss, despite the fact the link and photo say rookie 

    https://www.kentcricket.co.uk/news/olly-curtiss-signs-two-year-rookie-contract-at-kent/
    A Rookie contract is a Pro contract. It is one that is banded so far as salary is concerned and funded by the ECB. It is the first professional contract for a youngster not automatically given a full contract. 
    It’s been a long week AA
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 40,379
    fenaddick said:
    fenaddick said:
    Pro deal for Curtiss, despite the fact the link and photo say rookie 

    https://www.kentcricket.co.uk/news/olly-curtiss-signs-two-year-rookie-contract-at-kent/
    A Rookie contract is a Pro contract. It is one that is banded so far as salary is concerned and funded by the ECB. It is the first professional contract for a youngster not automatically given a full contract. 
    It’s been a long week AA
    We all have them! 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,385
    Dawkins signed a 2 year rookie contract in July, we really need him on a better and longer contract, as the best of all our youngsters
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 40,379
    edited November 1
    Kent work on the basis that, on average, they will produce two players from their Academy every three years.

    That isn't a perfect science and we have done slightly better than that but, hopefully, the likes of the three 19-year-olds will prove to be the start of the next large cohort of Academy products similar to the one that produced those nine players spanning a five year period:

    Joe Denly (39)
    Sam Northeast (36)
    Alex Blake (36)
    Matt Coles (35)
    Ivan Thomas (34)
    Sam Billings (34) 
    Adam Riley (33)
    Adam Ball (32)
    Fabian Cowdrey (32)
    Daniel Bell-Drummond (32) 
    Ryan Davies (28)
    Marcus O'Riordan (27) 
    Zak Crawley (27)
    Ollie Robinson (26) 
    Jordan Cox (25)
    Jas Singh (23)
    Jaydn Denly (19)
    Ekansh Singh (19)
    Ben Dawkins (19)
    Olly Curtiss (19)


      

    Olly Curtiss added to that list
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 40,379
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  • I guess that's positive news , AA but we've now moved to within walking distance of the Nevill Ground so to see a return of county cricket there would be fantastic. 

    We can but hope.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,385
    Sensible to play a 4 day game at Beckenham. A shame that TW can't hold a game yet, especially in something like the one day cup, where lots of games are at outgrounds anyway.

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  • bolloxbolder
    bolloxbolder Posts: 8,026
    It's a start.  Will definitely go to Beckenham. 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,385
    edited November 25
    The last group games are on the 12th July.

    The knockout games then follow straight after. The QFs are on the 15th July, with finals day on the 18th July.

    The Football World Cup  final is incidentally on the 19th July
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 12,933

  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,385
    Muthusamy would be an amazing signing, he got a ton against India in the latest S African victory there.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 40,379
    edited November 26
    ,killerandflash said:
    Muthusamy would be an amazing signing, he got a ton against India in the latest S African victory there.
    I'm not sure Bashir would be. He has to bat at 11 meaning that he will only be selected based on his bowling and I'm not sure that a CC return of 19 wickets at 88.17 apiece justifies any county offering him a multi-year contract. That is why he can't get a game at Somerset and why he needs to move.

    Any county taking him on would be shielded for the next 12 months because of Bashir's central contract but if he loses that, this time next year, then they could be stuck picking up the bill for someone that hasn't kicked on. 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 12,933
    To be clear, that was a nugget from a longer thread about Bashir and wasn't suggseting he was on Kent's radar at all
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 40,379
    fenaddick said:
    To be clear, that was a nugget from a longer thread about Bashir and wasn't suggseting he was on Kent's radar at all
    That's my fault. I didn't think he was and was just being "devil's advocate". It's more an opinion, perhaps, that is relevant on the England thread because he is now stuck between a rock and a hard place. He has been elevated to the position of being a centrally contracted England cricketer. That carries far more weight for someone like Bethell because, being as an all-rounder and playing both red and white ball, he has more avenues to pursue. In the case of Bashir, the very thing that has got him to the top is actually a restriction for his development albeit that it was criminal how few CC matches he has played. No county games and now the possibility that he might only get two or three Tests in the Ashes will not help Bashir's development. 
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,293
    Muthusamy or Kuhnemann would be huge statements of intent from Kent. Top quality international spinners that I guess would be available for a good chunk of the season in all formats. 
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,857
    MarcusH26 said:
    Muthusamy or Kuhnemann would be huge statements of intent from Kent. Top quality international spinners that I guess would be available for a good chunk of the season in all formats. 
    I’d rather a dangerous and durable seam bowler that’s available for the whole season