Crawley Town V Charlton Athletic : was Wed 1st Jan 2025 rearranged for Tues 11th March 7:45pm (p16)

ElfsborgAddick

Valley11 said:

That League One table looks ominous. 

Basically, little room for slip ups. 

And after three wins on the bounce you can’t help feeling like one is around the corner with this side. 

We'd have certainly slipped up today

blackpool72

chilham said:

SporadicAddick said:

Bailey said:

golfaddick said:

ForeverAddickted said:

I know its only Nathan's word, but if the referee has called it off because of the forecast, rather than the conditions - Why wait so long then?

I don't know how you can call off a game because of what might happen. 

Surely you start the match & then abandon it if needs be. 

Golfie, if you start the game in these conditions and then have to call it off then you do that because the ball is not moving or it's become a risk to the players, also just suppose one of the sides had taken a two nil lead and the game got called off after 45 mins, the angst on here would be far worse. 

That's a reasonable risk to take for both sides.  

Doncaster Rovers at The Valley a few years back.....?

When we played Doncaster away later that season a female Donny fan had a right go at me because of that.
I politely told her that it wasn't mine or Charlton s fault the game was called off it was down to the Weather and the Ref.
She was still abusing me as her husband took her away.
Bloody Norverners 

ElfsborgAddick

oohaahmortimer said:

Drove 9 of us down in the minibus , nephew , mates son and boffins mate plus us 6.
they were all eating footy filth, pizza , chips , chicken burger etc outside and I can’t risk that with my guts and football/public filth toilets so I went  in the ground early .
dont care what Nathan Jones said I know what I saw 13.50 ish their ground force team were sweeping loads and loads of surface water away from near the far penalty area , 14.05 ref and assistants come out , the ball is stopping and not bouncing properly in certain areas and at this point in time is when the game should have been called off .
The ref conversed with ground staff and they stopped their sweeping . At this point with the ref stopping them I just expected it’s going to be called off , to give it another half hour was ridiculous , the rain was well set and forecast was for plenty more and we were that close to kick off , nothing was going to change and make it playable (yes in years gone by it would have been considered easily good enough to play but with todays woke society that’s not possible )
it was the right decision to call it off but should have been earlier .
anyway the rearranged fixture clashes with me washing my hair so I can’t make it .
1hr 20 mins back to Epping not to be sniffed at , too many Cadbury’s mini eggs on the journey home and I’m on the khazi now easing them out 

This is shocking, the ref must be questioned if the conditions were as bad as this.

Off_it

ElfsborgAddick said:

oohaahmortimer said:

Drove 9 of us down in the minibus , nephew , mates son and boffins mate plus us 6.
they were all eating footy filth, pizza , chips , chicken burger etc outside and I can’t risk that with my guts and football/public filth toilets so I went  in the ground early .
dont care what Nathan Jones said I know what I saw 13.50 ish their ground force team were sweeping loads and loads of surface water away from near the far penalty area , 14.05 ref and assistants come out , the ball is stopping and not bouncing properly in certain areas and at this point in time is when the game should have been called off .
The ref conversed with ground staff and they stopped their sweeping . At this point with the ref stopping them I just expected it’s going to be called off , to give it another half hour was ridiculous , the rain was well set and forecast was for plenty more and we were that close to kick off , nothing was going to change and make it playable (yes in years gone by it would have been considered easily good enough to play but with todays woke society that’s not possible )
it was the right decision to call it off but should have been earlier .
anyway the rearranged fixture clashes with me washing my hair so I can’t make it .
1hr 20 mins back to Epping not to be sniffed at , too many Cadbury’s mini eggs on the journey home and I’m on the khazi now easing them out 

This is shocking, the ref must be questioned if the conditions were as bad as this.

To be fair, the ref can't be blamed for most of those "conditions", the mini egg situation for one.

PragueAddick

I can't remember exactly which year but we lost a derby at Selhurst against the stripeys when the ball stuck in the mud in the penalty box and a Palace forward had a tap-in as a result.

I don't remember leaving,  thinking "all part of the game, I've played in worse" etc. 

Be careful what you wish for, some of you...

cblock

blackpool72 said:

chilham said:

SporadicAddick said:

Bailey said:

golfaddick said:

ForeverAddickted said:

I know its only Nathan's word, but if the referee has called it off because of the forecast, rather than the conditions - Why wait so long then?

I don't know how you can call off a game because of what might happen. 

Surely you start the match & then abandon it if needs be. 

Golfie, if you start the game in these conditions and then have to call it off then you do that because the ball is not moving or it's become a risk to the players, also just suppose one of the sides had taken a two nil lead and the game got called off after 45 mins, the angst on here would be far worse. 

That's a reasonable risk to take for both sides.  

Doncaster Rovers at The Valley a few years back.....?

When we played Doncaster away later that season a female Donny fan had a right go at me because of that.
I politely told her that it wasn't mine or Charlton s fault the game was called off it was down to the Weather and the Ref.
She was still abusing me as her husband took her away.
Bloody Norverners 

Remember the game well, conditions suited attacking the Covered End , which we would have done 2nd half,  we would 
have won anyway, but your right, fuck em, bloody norveners.

Wheresmeticket

Woke.

Wokey wokeness gone woke crazy.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

killerandflash

cblock said:

blackpool72 said:

chilham said:

SporadicAddick said:

Bailey said:

golfaddick said:

ForeverAddickted said:

I know its only Nathan's word, but if the referee has called it off because of the forecast, rather than the conditions - Why wait so long then?

I don't know how you can call off a game because of what might happen. 

Surely you start the match & then abandon it if needs be. 

Golfie, if you start the game in these conditions and then have to call it off then you do that because the ball is not moving or it's become a risk to the players, also just suppose one of the sides had taken a two nil lead and the game got called off after 45 mins, the angst on here would be far worse. 

That's a reasonable risk to take for both sides.  

Doncaster Rovers at The Valley a few years back.....?

When we played Doncaster away later that season a female Donny fan had a right go at me because of that.
I politely told her that it wasn't mine or Charlton s fault the game was called off it was down to the Weather and the Ref.
She was still abusing me as her husband took her away.
Bloody Norverners 

Remember the game well, conditions suited attacking the Covered End , which we would have done 2nd half,  we would 
have won anyway, but your right, fuck em, bloody norveners.

Yes, in that Doncaster game the pitch was massively worse in the Covered End goalmouth, so we would have had the benefit in the second half. PLUS they were down to 10 men, so the postponement saved them from a 6-3 defeat!

MuttleyCAFC

killerandflash said:

cblock said:

blackpool72 said:

chilham said:

SporadicAddick said:

Bailey said:

golfaddick said:

ForeverAddickted said:

I know its only Nathan's word, but if the referee has called it off because of the forecast, rather than the conditions - Why wait so long then?

I don't know how you can call off a game because of what might happen. 

Surely you start the match & then abandon it if needs be. 

Golfie, if you start the game in these conditions and then have to call it off then you do that because the ball is not moving or it's become a risk to the players, also just suppose one of the sides had taken a two nil lead and the game got called off after 45 mins, the angst on here would be far worse. 

That's a reasonable risk to take for both sides.  

Doncaster Rovers at The Valley a few years back.....?

When we played Doncaster away later that season a female Donny fan had a right go at me because of that.
I politely told her that it wasn't mine or Charlton s fault the game was called off it was down to the Weather and the Ref.
She was still abusing me as her husband took her away.
Bloody Norverners 

Remember the game well, conditions suited attacking the Covered End , which we would have done 2nd half,  we would 
have won anyway, but your right, fuck em, bloody norveners.

Yes, in that Doncaster game the pitch was massively worse in the Covered End goalmouth, so we would have had the benefit in the second half. PLUS they were down to 10 men, so the postponement saved them from a 6-3 defeat!

This is true. It certainly wasn't a given they would have won it. As you say the difference between both ends was massive. In terms of today, I think this benefits us. I feel for those that went of course but the Christmas schedule is harsh in terms of games and we have avoided that. We are in a situation where, understandably, Jones wants to keep the side unchanged which has its own risks.  We ought to be a lot fresher than Reading on Saturday in what is an important game to win. We haven't got a fixture congestion issue so the Crawley game shouldn't be a problem to fit in.

Covered End

Braziliance said:

I set off at 1:30pm and thought it would get called off, but foolishly continued the drive thinking better to be safe than sorry.

Ref should have called it off 4 hours earlier to give people a chance, absolutely dreadful decision. 

Have to say as well, in all my years driving, that's been the worst conditions I've driven in I can remember. 

I saw the aftermath of one accident, I think I saw traffic cause of a local-ish one, and was nearly part of one where another driver was driving erratically which caused a car near me to slightly swerve. 

I genuinely can't stand people who drive like twats in these conditions. You save seconds to at best minutes and it's so risky.

I never normally do it but I actually had a go at one driver today. Felt a bit bad afterwards but it winds me up how people don't consider others in their cars or the cars they're driving near.

It's something ridiculous like a 30% increase of a car fatality in even light rain and people swerve and undercut in torrential rains. 

75% of weather conditions related accidents occur cause of rain, and 45% + happen during rainfall.

Sorry for the rant but I couldn't believe some of the state of the driving I saw today, winds me right up. Just added to my anger with the postponement 

Can't wait for the Vlog.

Ducktapeshoerepairs

jams said:

Not the worst thing in the world, players could do with some rest having played the same team in all games over Xmas 

You didn’t travel then ? 

Briston_Addick

PragueAddick said:

I can't remember exactly which year but we lost a derby at Selhurst against the stripeys when the ball stuck in the mud in the penalty box and a Palace forward had a tap-in as a result.

I don't remember leaving,  thinking "all part of the game, I've played in worse" etc. 

Be careful what you wish for, some of you...

There was the FA Cup match in the late 80s at The Hawthorns where it pissed down all day (and I'm sure the urinals in the away end didn't have a roof) with big puddles in the pitch but the match went ahead.

Lower league West Brom turned over top flight Charlton (for the benefit of the MoTD cameras, probably why the game didn't get called off) with a goalmouth puddle helping the Baggies.

Braziliance

Covered End said:

Braziliance said:

I set off at 1:30pm and thought it would get called off, but foolishly continued the drive thinking better to be safe than sorry.

Ref should have called it off 4 hours earlier to give people a chance, absolutely dreadful decision. 

Have to say as well, in all my years driving, that's been the worst conditions I've driven in I can remember. 

I saw the aftermath of one accident, I think I saw traffic cause of a local-ish one, and was nearly part of one where another driver was driving erratically which caused a car near me to slightly swerve. 

I genuinely can't stand people who drive like twats in these conditions. You save seconds to at best minutes and it's so risky.

I never normally do it but I actually had a go at one driver today. Felt a bit bad afterwards but it winds me up how people don't consider others in their cars or the cars they're driving near.

It's something ridiculous like a 30% increase of a car fatality in even light rain and people swerve and undercut in torrential rains. 

75% of weather conditions related accidents occur cause of rain, and 45% + happen during rainfall.

Sorry for the rant but I couldn't believe some of the state of the driving I saw today, winds me right up. Just added to my anger with the postponement 

Can't wait for the Vlog.

Tbf I could have just recorded myself moaning about how shit other drivers are for 20 minutes. 😄

KiwiValley

Southendaddick said:

There was a car completely smashed up in the outside lane just as I pulled on the M23 on the way back 

That was @braziliance . He was posting while driving 

Chippycafc

Ridiculous decision to call the game off. I was in the ground at 2.30 and both teams were pinging the ball around OK.

Wimps the lot of them. Rumour mill says the players asked for the game to be called off. This was evident as the players sheepishly walked around applauding us. 

Only bright note was meeting Clive and a couple of pals. Great company. 

ArmchairAddick

Braziliance said:

Covered End said:

Braziliance said:

I set off at 1:30pm and thought it would get called off, but foolishly continued the drive thinking better to be safe than sorry.

Ref should have called it off 4 hours earlier to give people a chance, absolutely dreadful decision. 

Have to say as well, in all my years driving, that's been the worst conditions I've driven in I can remember. 

I saw the aftermath of one accident, I think I saw traffic cause of a local-ish one, and was nearly part of one where another driver was driving erratically which caused a car near me to slightly swerve. 

I genuinely can't stand people who drive like twats in these conditions. You save seconds to at best minutes and it's so risky.

I never normally do it but I actually had a go at one driver today. Felt a bit bad afterwards but it winds me up how people don't consider others in their cars or the cars they're driving near.

It's something ridiculous like a 30% increase of a car fatality in even light rain and people swerve and undercut in torrential rains. 

75% of weather conditions related accidents occur cause of rain, and 45% + happen during rainfall.

Sorry for the rant but I couldn't believe some of the state of the driving I saw today, winds me right up. Just added to my anger with the postponement 

Can't wait for the Vlog.

Tbf I could have just recorded myself moaning about how shit other drivers are for 20 minutes. 😄

This is the content we demand!

Callumcafc

Hopefully bids in for half of Reading’s squad before the weekend, whether the interest is genuine or not (in reality I’d happily take about six of their players)

R0TW

Greenhithe said:

Part of me was glad it was called off. The Crawley weirdos I was stood next to and started talking to me like I was one of them I’m not sure I would have lasted the game to be fair.  

Creepy.

RedRobin

Was the right call by the ref, the only gripe I’ve got is after the initial check at 2ish, the groundsman took their equipment in and were not seen again! 

They must of known it wasn’t playable so the late call wasn’t necessary. Was amusing as the comms from the club was the ref wanted to give the grounds team a chance to improve it, yet they went in for a cuppa!! 

AFKABartram

The 2.15 non-decision was the big mistake. A pub full of a few hundred happily dry people then had to get soaked walking to the ground for no reason! 

Must say standing right next to the pitch, the surface looked fantastic, but I never saw the ref doing roll testing etc. very frustrating 

Braziliance

KiwiValley said:

Southendaddick said:

There was a car completely smashed up in the outside lane just as I pulled on the M23 on the way back 

That was @braziliance . He was posting while driving 

Brilliant 😂

On a more serious note though, it does sound like it was a Charlton fan who was unfortunately part of one of the accidents, thankfully, he sounds ok:

https://x.com/jonathangrade/status/1874460558717776050?t=SCdTTz-t35VJX5zpHKsZMg&s=19

Not sure if that's the one I saw, as the one on the way back looked a bit more nasty. 

I still can't believe how bad it was driving from Kent, the only time I've ever been driving and thought 'yeah I can't see shit, this might be it' 

Covered End

Related to Michael Grade?

LouisMend

Covered End said:

Related to Michael Grade?

His son

JohnnyH2

Covered End said:

Related to Michael Grade?

Son

Covered End

I presumed so.

up_the_valley

12 pages on this, and there was no game. I've known match threads where the game has been played not to get this many comments. Bonkers.

Simonsen

PragueAddick said:

I can't remember exactly which year but we lost a derby at Selhurst against the stripeys when the ball stuck in the mud in the penalty box and a Palace forward had a tap-in as a result.

I don't remember leaving,  thinking "all part of the game, I've played in worse" etc. 

Be careful what you wish for, some of you...

Boxing Day 1984; ball over the top, stuck dead in the mud and Kevin Mabbutt didn't break stride as he cracked it into the bottom corner. Steve Gritt was the goalie after Tony Lange broke his ankle about 15 mins into the game. 

CAFCTrev

stop_shouting said:

Absolute joke. Proper woke decision with no consideration for the fans. 

Simonsen

Briston_Addick said:

PragueAddick said:

I can't remember exactly which year but we lost a derby at Selhurst against the stripeys when the ball stuck in the mud in the penalty box and a Palace forward had a tap-in as a result.

I don't remember leaving,  thinking "all part of the game, I've played in worse" etc. 

Be careful what you wish for, some of you...

There was the FA Cup match in the late 80s at The Hawthorns where it pissed down all day (and I'm sure the urinals in the away end didn't have a roof) with big puddles in the pitch but the match went ahead.

Lower league West Brom turned over top flight Charlton (for the benefit of the MoTD cameras, probably why the game didn't get called off) with a goalmouth puddle helping the Baggies.

1989/90 season. Tony Ford got their goal. Without doubt the worst pitch condition I've ever seen. Far worse than the Chelsea sand-pitch, the Coventry 99% mud pitch or the West Ham TV FA Cup match at Selhurst...which were all plenty bad.

But...as gutting as it was to lose (and it was yet another kick in the guts during a mega-tough season) it was a memorable game with plenty of action. 

SoundAsa£

Briston_Addick said:

PragueAddick said:

I can't remember exactly which year but we lost a derby at Selhurst against the stripeys when the ball stuck in the mud in the penalty box and a Palace forward had a tap-in as a result.

I don't remember leaving,  thinking "all part of the game, I've played in worse" etc. 

Be careful what you wish for, some of you...

There was the FA Cup match in the late 80s at The Hawthorns where it pissed down all day (and I'm sure the urinals in the away end didn't have a roof) with big puddles in the pitch but the match went ahead.

Lower league West Brom turned over top flight Charlton (for the benefit of the MoTD cameras, probably why the game didn't get called off) with a goalmouth puddle helping the Baggies.

Remember us missing a penalty which improbably hit the inside of both posts, can’t remember who took it.
Into the bargain, an accurately but gently placed shot was goal bound until the ball came to a dead stop in a muddy puddle a few agonising feet from the goal line.
We were absolutely jinxed that day.