Can still go to within 2-pts (?) of them both on Saturday
Especially if Stockport can play at Wrexham like they've done against us and Bolton of late. I just feel that the trip to Posh will be one of the few times we drop 2-pts ourselves now until the end of the season
It's very tight at the top .. as the Bishop said to the Actress .. we will be guilty of the biggest fuck up of all time if we don't at least stay in the play off positions
Can still go to within 2-pts (?) of them both on Saturday
Especially if Stockport can play at Wrexham like they've done against us and Bolton of late. I just feel that the trip to Posh will be one of the few times we drop 2-pts ourselves now until the end of the season
Charlton & Stockport wins at the weekend would result in a three point gap between 2nd and 5th by 5 o’clock on Saturday.
That win tonight would have hurt Wrexham far more than us - our challenge hasn't changed as the gap is the same - those two have been up there all year so they should be really starting to feel the pressure and weight of expectation on them. It's all a bonus for us to still have a sniff at all at this stage so we shouldn't be feeling it as acutely. In theory...
Wrexham aruably have the easiest run-in but all we can do is continue our current form and hope for the odd slip-up by the others...preferablyly including their games against Charlton.
It's very tight at the top .. as the Bishop said to the Actress .. we will be guilty of the biggest fuck up of all time if we don't at least stay in the play off positions
Nowhere near: Millwall top of the Championship in early December and relegated in May after *Charlton did the double over the Bermondsey boys. (With the odd Russian in their team who could drink the old Kent road pubs dry)
IF cafc finish in the top 2 it would be nothing short of extraordinary as we still need to cement our place in the top 6 as Huddersfield scored 5 at home after their drought and Bolton are C+D winners in getting to the play offs.
Cliché but one game at a time.
*Our last two victories over the East London docks team.🤦🏻♂️
The home leg being the second one ought to be beneficial, but then in 2019 we won in Doncaster and lost at home, resulting in penalties.
Being at home definitely helped us in the shootout but then Liverpool lost their shootout at home last week.
Something that I have always though was strange is that if a game goes into extra time then the home team has an advantage, which is not the same for the away team who had home advantage in the 1st leg. Nothing that can be done about it unless the game goes straight to pens.....but it has always made me think that this is another advantage of playing the 2nd leg at home - an extra 30 mins on front of the home fans.
It's an advantage you get for coming 3rd or 4th in the playoffs rather than 6th or 5th
But what about any other 2-legged tie ? FA Cup or Champions League matches for example. They aren't "position" based. In fact, the FA Cup is even more unfair. Games this season that have gone straight to Extra Time & then penalties have massively favoured the home team, which doesn't help a small team facing a much larger one - say Lincoln away to Liverpool.
I know nothing can be done about and I'm just musing that having extra time after a 2--leg tie massively favours the team at home in the 2nd leg.
A team that finishes 3rd should have an advantage over a team that finishes 6th - and the same for 4th over 5th.
The Champions League is to an extent position based - teams that do well in the group stage get home advantage second leg in the round of 16.
I'm not sure it massively favours the home team anyway in the second leg if it goes to extra time - the pressure on the home team from the home crowd having failed to take venue advantage levels the paying field to a large degree. I agree the FA Cup is unfair to the smaller team drawn away and was never in favour of scrapping replays (at least one).
I quite like a playoff structure that rewards clubs that do finish 3rd and 4th over 5th and 6th. If we look. for example, at the Championship, we have a situation where Burnley in third are 21 points ahead of the side in 6th, WBA - the former has lost just 2 games all season whereas Coventry, in fifth, have lost 13 matches.
The one, specifically, that I think works better is:
3rd plays 4th and the winner automatically goes into the play off final. The loser of that tie then plays the winner of 5th versus 6th to determine who also reaches the final.
Does anyone know why the old play off format was scrapped?
3rd, 4th and 5th from the league below plus 4th bottom from the league above.
so whats the betting Wrexham away April 26th 3pm is moved? ...surely SKY will move it to 12.30 KO or worse an evening game? Very frustrating that us mere fans have to wait to a month before to know, shows how EFL sold out for the £££ with the ELF SKY deal. Wrexham not a great place to get to via train so its a long drive potentially on Saturday morning still its one away game i want to go to out of the remaining Away fixtures....bring on the Disney Welsh Dragons
so whats the betting Wrexham away April 26th 3pm is moved? ...surely SKY will move it to 12.30 KO or worse an evening game? Very frustrating that us mere fans have to wait to a month before to know, shows how EFL sold out for the £££ with the ELF SKY deal. Wrexham not a great place to get to via train so its a long drive potentially on Saturday morning still its one away game i want to go to out of the remaining Away fixtures....bring on the Disney Welsh Dragons
I'd be surprised if sky didn't put it on TV if there's even a chance that Wrexham are still going to be in the automatic promotion race
so whats the betting Wrexham away April 26th 3pm is moved? ...surely SKY will move it to 12.30 KO or worse an evening game? Very frustrating that us mere fans have to wait to a month before to know, shows how EFL sold out for the £££ with the ELF SKY deal. Wrexham not a great place to get to via train so its a long drive potentially on Saturday morning still its one away game i want to go to out of the remaining Away fixtures....bring on the Disney Welsh Dragons
The worst case scenario is if it's moved to the previous Thursday evening
Hopefully not, as it's only 3 days after the Easter Monday games, but it's the same for both teams.
Finishing second can be done but it’s an enormous task now I feel. WW winning last night has made things very difficult. Our next two games are very tricky fixtures and I think after Hudds we’ll have a clear understanding of our chances of nabbing that second spot. Personally I think it’s highly unlikely and for me we’ll finish 5th or 6th. In the scheme of this season finishing top six was beyond my expectations so having a shot at the lottery playoffs is a huge bonus.
The home leg being the second one ought to be beneficial, but then in 2019 we won in Doncaster and lost at home, resulting in penalties.
Being at home definitely helped us in the shootout but then Liverpool lost their shootout at home last week.
Something that I have always though was strange is that if a game goes into extra time then the home team has an advantage, which is not the same for the away team who had home advantage in the 1st leg. Nothing that can be done about it unless the game goes straight to pens.....but it has always made me think that this is another advantage of playing the 2nd leg at home - an extra 30 mins on front of the home fans.
It's an advantage you get for coming 3rd or 4th in the playoffs rather than 6th or 5th
But what about any other 2-legged tie ? FA Cup or Champions League matches for example. They aren't "position" based. In fact, the FA Cup is even more unfair. Games this season that have gone straight to Extra Time & then penalties have massively favoured the home team, which doesn't help a small team facing a much larger one - say Lincoln away to Liverpool.
I know nothing can be done about and I'm just musing that having extra time after a 2--leg tie massively favours the team at home in the 2nd leg.
A team that finishes 3rd should have an advantage over a team that finishes 6th - and the same for 4th over 5th.
The Champions League is to an extent position based - teams that do well in the group stage get home advantage second leg in the round of 16.
I'm not sure it massively favours the home team anyway in the second leg if it goes to extra time - the pressure on the home team from the home crowd having failed to take venue advantage levels the paying field to a large degree. I agree the FA Cup is unfair to the smaller team drawn away and was never in favour of scrapping replays (at least one).
I quite like a playoff structure that rewards clubs that do finish 3rd and 4th over 5th and 6th. If we look. for example, at the Championship, we have a situation where Burnley in third are 21 points ahead of the side in 6th, WBA - the former has lost just 2 games all season whereas Coventry, in fifth, have lost 13 matches.
The one, specifically, that I think works better is:
3rd plays 4th and the winner automatically goes into the play off final. The loser of that tie then plays the winner of 5th versus 6th to determine who also reaches the final.
Does anyone know why the old play off format was scrapped?
3rd, 4th and 5th from the league below plus 4th bottom from the league above.
From memory that was only used for the two seasons when they were shrinking the league from 22 to 20 (and only for div1/div2 playoffs, not the lower leagues). The alternative would have been bottom 4 down.
so whats the betting Wrexham away April 26th 3pm is moved? ...surely SKY will move it to 12.30 KO or worse an evening game? Very frustrating that us mere fans have to wait to a month before to know, shows how EFL sold out for the £££ with the ELF SKY deal. Wrexham not a great place to get to via train so its a long drive potentially on Saturday morning still its one away game i want to go to out of the remaining Away fixtures....bring on the Disney Welsh Dragons
It's their last home game so if they're in with a chance of second, or can even seal second that day then it will definitely be moved.
The home leg being the second one ought to be beneficial, but then in 2019 we won in Doncaster and lost at home, resulting in penalties.
Being at home definitely helped us in the shootout but then Liverpool lost their shootout at home last week.
Something that I have always though was strange is that if a game goes into extra time then the home team has an advantage, which is not the same for the away team who had home advantage in the 1st leg. Nothing that can be done about it unless the game goes straight to pens.....but it has always made me think that this is another advantage of playing the 2nd leg at home - an extra 30 mins on front of the home fans.
It's an advantage you get for coming 3rd or 4th in the playoffs rather than 6th or 5th
But what about any other 2-legged tie ? FA Cup or Champions League matches for example. They aren't "position" based. In fact, the FA Cup is even more unfair. Games this season that have gone straight to Extra Time & then penalties have massively favoured the home team, which doesn't help a small team facing a much larger one - say Lincoln away to Liverpool.
I know nothing can be done about and I'm just musing that having extra time after a 2--leg tie massively favours the team at home in the 2nd leg.
A team that finishes 3rd should have an advantage over a team that finishes 6th - and the same for 4th over 5th.
The Champions League is to an extent position based - teams that do well in the group stage get home advantage second leg in the round of 16.
I'm not sure it massively favours the home team anyway in the second leg if it goes to extra time - the pressure on the home team from the home crowd having failed to take venue advantage levels the paying field to a large degree. I agree the FA Cup is unfair to the smaller team drawn away and was never in favour of scrapping replays (at least one).
I quite like a playoff structure that rewards clubs that do finish 3rd and 4th over 5th and 6th. If we look. for example, at the Championship, we have a situation where Burnley in third are 21 points ahead of the side in 6th, WBA - the former has lost just 2 games all season whereas Coventry, in fifth, have lost 13 matches.
The one, specifically, that I think works better is:
3rd plays 4th and the winner automatically goes into the play off final. The loser of that tie then plays the winner of 5th versus 6th to determine who also reaches the final.
Does anyone know why the old play off format was scrapped?
3rd, 4th and 5th from the league below plus 4th bottom from the league above.
From memory that was only used for the two seasons when they were shrinking the league from 22 to 20 (and only for div1/div2 playoffs, not the lower leagues). The alternative would have been bottom 4 down.
It's an exciting format though. I think they should reintroduce it
Peterborough, Huddersfield, Wycombe and Wrexham are very loseable games, realistically they are 4 games which we can't afford to drop any points in.
So were Leyton Orient, Barnsley and Stockport though
I think the last eleven games are all loseable matches if we don't approach them the right way, especially Burton on the last day of the season if they're in with a chance of survival (Its Rochdale in 2017/18 all over again), I still think we can afford to draw two, maybe three games and that's it, if we want second.
Peterborough, Huddersfield, Wycombe and Wrexham are very loseable games, realistically they are 4 games which we can't afford to drop any points in.
So were Leyton Orient, Barnsley and Stockport though
I think the last eleven games are all loseable matches if we don't approach them the right way, especially Burton on the last day of the season if they're in with a chance of survival (Its Rochdale in 2017/18 all over again), I still think we can afford to draw two, maybe three games and that's it, if we want second.
Absolutely, but none of those draws can come from teams around us in this final run. Orient were already 2 games into a losing run when we played them and Stockport we dropped points to.
We need Wycombe and Wrexham to lose 2 games each really, luckily we can be one of those teams to each, but it feels like a big ask atm.
Wrexham vs Stockport on Saturday we need to see Wrexham picking up no more than a point and its on.
One game at a time, but it's out of our hands for now.
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Especially if Stockport can play at Wrexham like they've done against us and Bolton of late. I just feel that the trip to Posh will be one of the few times we drop 2-pts ourselves now until the end of the season
2. Wycombe PL37 PTS71
3. Wrexham PL38 PTS71
4. Charlton PL38 PTS69
5. Stockport PL38 PTS68
they have a pretty horrendous run in.
Wycombe 10/11
Wrexham 6/4
Charlton 10/1
Stockport 25/1
Nowhere near:
Millwall top of the Championship in early December and relegated in May after *Charlton did the double over the Bermondsey boys. (With the odd Russian in their team who could drink the old Kent road pubs dry)
IF cafc finish in the top 2 it would be nothing short of extraordinary as we still need to cement our place in the top 6 as Huddersfield scored 5 at home after their drought and Bolton are C+D winners in getting to the play offs.
Cliché but one game at a time.
*Our last two victories over the East London docks team.🤦🏻♂️
3rd, 4th and 5th from the league below plus 4th bottom from the league above.
Hopefully not, as it's only 3 days after the Easter Monday games, but it's the same for both teams.
I think the last eleven games are all loseable matches if we don't approach them the right way, especially Burton on the last day of the season if they're in with a chance of survival (Its Rochdale in 2017/18 all over again), I still think we can afford to draw two, maybe three games and that's it, if we want second.
We need Wycombe and Wrexham to lose 2 games each really, luckily we can be one of those teams to each, but it feels like a big ask atm.
Wrexham vs Stockport on Saturday we need to see Wrexham picking up no more than a point and its on.
One game at a time, but it's out of our hands for now.