The answers still no. We got what I thought were last night three welcome but rather fortunate points. We were outplayed for much of the game. Not a promotion winning performance by any stretch.
Nothing changes after last night unless we take max points from Shrewsbury and Bristol Rovers, we are still playing catch up. One fortunate win from a deflected shot when we create so few shots on target won't see cafc finish in the top 6. Miles Leaburn can go from a mediocre league 1 central striker to a sought after potential championship number 9 then back to a poor performance again last night. Charlton are so erratic and so often our games are a spin toss whether we play top or bottom you just never know the outcome.
We need a good scout to get in some top loan players
I'd like to know who our scouting network is.
I don’t think we have a scouting network at the moment, certainly not one of note.
And therein lies a big problem for us.
I am not saying we are alone in this, but I imagine LOTS of signings are made without having seen players live once they have been identified as a potential signing.
Shocking if true. You not only have to see them play live, but you need to talk to them to assess whether they’re the right types.
We need a good scout to get in some top loan players
I'd like to know who our scouting network is.
I don’t think we have a scouting network at the moment, certainly not one of note.
And therein lies a big problem for us.
I am not saying we are alone in this, but I imagine LOTS of signings are made without having seen players live once they have been identified as a potential signing.
Shocking if true. You not only have to see them play live, but you need to talk to them to assess whether they’re the right types.
It's nuts, by no stretch of the imagination can we claim to have had a good season and yet here we are 4 points off play offs wiyh a game in hand. Maybe 76 points won't be needed this season. Jones has the strongest of arguments to go to the board and recruit a game changer or two to push us over the line. As Lenny did with Jim Melrose!
We have had a good run with the exception of Rotherham and the next week we need to keep this going.
The annoying thing about Charlton is that just when you have about given up hope you get dragged back in!*
The answers still no. We got what I thought were last night three welcome but rather fortunate points. We were outplayed for much of the game. Not a promotion winning performance by any stretch.
With the remaining fixtures, as they are, if we are to have any chance of making the Play Offs, we have to somehow turn the Valley into a fortress. We could not ask for an easier set of remaining home fixtures but when you've only scored 14 in 12 there, you do become wholly reliant on keeping clean sheets. If Rotherham were to just draw their game in hand then they will leapfrog Lincoln meaning that all bar two of our games at home are against teams in the bottom half of the table:
9 home wins plus 2 draws at home and 1.3 points a game when away (our current average) would take us to 79 points - almost certainly enough to get us into the Play Offs given the even level of ability of the teams in the division.
When we went a goal down yesterday I was ready to write off the season. Still can’t quite believe a) that we won, and b) that we’re still in with a shout. The Shrewsbury games now shifts from being pretty irrelevant, to being extremely important.
The form table shows us in or around the playoffs for most of the options. Indeed the shocking thing is how good Leyton Orient have been, while Rotherham are another side who are rising up the table.
I expect Stockport, without Barry, to slip out of the top 6.
Peterborough are having a very poor season, I hadn't realised quite how bad they've been in recent weeks.
We’re right in the mix - the table and our next five games is the evidence of that. Whether we’re good enough to take advantage of this opportunity is still unclear IMO
We should be feeling very confident about the next run of games but this is us and well we all know what’s around the corner don’t we ! Shrewsbury play like Barcelona on Saturday and take the hope away 😂 come on lads lose the stereotype and get 3 points when you should
Big win last night to keep our hopes alive. Ironically I think we've probably helped Bolton out a bit because they've got a really strong squad there if they make the right appointment. Always tough playing Ainsworth but very winnable game Saturday. 12 from Shrewsbury, Bristol Rovers, Blackpool, Stevenage and Exeter is doable and would probably have us in there.
My big concern is depth. Rumoured midfielder on the way but think we probably need another 2 minimum after that coming in too. Ramsay coming back should also be a big boost
With the remaining fixtures, as they are, if we are to have any chance of making the Play Offs, we have to somehow turn the Valley into a fortress. We could not ask for an easier set of remaining home fixtures but when you've only scored 14 in 12 there, you do become wholly reliant on keeping clean sheets. If Rotherham were to just draw their game in hand then they will leapfrog Lincoln meaning that all bar two of our games at home are against teams in the bottom half of the table:
9 home wins plus 2 draws at home and 1.3 points a game when away (our current average) would take us to 79 points - almost certainly enough to get us into the Play Offs given the even level of ability of the teams in the division.
So win nine of those games and draw two.
Nice thought, but just how long have you been following Charlton ? 5 years or 50 years.
I think with Ramsay on the way back, Chuks back and contributing, a settled team, and lots of lessons learned in the first half of the season, we have a great chance of 6th or even 5th.
We've proved that we can beat any team in this league and should be frightened of no one. Yes, we still haven't been consistent, or consistently good, but Rotherham aside, we seem to be making some progress on that front.
I want to believe, but when I try to separate my emotion and belief away from this, I still feel like we are going to fall short. I want to be wrong and I'm absolutely here for the ride either way.
In the the away games, we have a number of real stinkers - Brum, Orient, Stockport, Mansfield, Wycombe and Wrexham all being very notable ones. I just think that any team that can defend well against us and play more expansively with a bit of pace/quality can cause us problems. I think there are losses in potentially more than a couple of those, and they could be swing games that push others forward and harming us. This is all alongside the basis that we have greater pressure on home games being 3 points every time. It is very difficult to predict.
I think we're still a little bit too coinflip-y in our games. I think our defenders have mistakes in them and they may cost us. I think the positive recency bias in our form has been against teams that were in poorer form - just looking at Bolton, Evatt has been under pressure for ages. Rotherham was an unexpected wake-up call that we reacted well to last night. I have a nagging feeling that we could have at least one or more two games like that because of the inconsistency we've seen across the season so far.
I think we'll remain outside the radar for most people unless we win 4, 5 or 6 in a row. The next few games should be ones we can attempt that, but looking further forward, there are plenty of banana skins to be navigated. Meanwhile, we've also not yet added to the squad during January and, if we don't in the right areas, that's the other issue.
If we do I really don't have much hope we will get promoted, defensively we havent been good enough (as a whole team) and I think this squad lacks the steeliness and mentality that we had under Bowyers lot. When we our under the cosh we look defeated tbh.
We have been really bad for most of the first half of the season but remarkably we still have a chance. There are not many teams with any sort of consistency in the league and if we can keep our levels at where we have been recently I’m confident we will make the playoffs. We just need to win the games we should against the teams below us. at the start of the season I dreamt we would meet Wrexham in the playoff final ( I live 12 miles from Wrexham ) who knows maybe it was a premonition? I hope not as we lost 😂
I want to believe, but when I try to separate my emotion and belief away from this, I still feel like we are going to fall short. I want to be wrong and I'm absolutely here for the ride either way.
In the the away games, we have a number of real stinkers - Brum, Orient, Stockport, Mansfield, Wycombe and Wrexham all being very notable ones. I just think that any team that can defend well against us and play more expansively with a bit of pace/quality can cause us problems. I think there are losses in potentially more than a couple of those, and they could be swing games that push others forward and harming us. This is all alongside the basis that we have greater pressure on home games being 3 points every time. It is very difficult to predict.
I think we're still a little bit too coinflip-y in our games. I think our defenders have mistakes in them and they may cost us. I think the positive recency bias in our form has been against teams that were in poorer form - just looking at Bolton, Evatt has been under pressure for ages. Rotherham was an unexpected wake-up call that we reacted well to last night. I have a nagging feeling that we could have at least one or more two games like that because of the inconsistency we've seen across the season so far.
I think we'll remain outside the radar for most people unless we win 4, 5 or 6 in a row. The next few games should be ones we can attempt that, but looking further forward, there are plenty of banana skins to be navigated. Meanwhile, we've also not yet added to the squad during January and, if we don't in the right areas, that's the other issue.
I also think we will fall slightly short. Main doubts being those tough away games and the fact that we still don’t have enough going forward to consistently win the more winnable games. Actually think the latter will let us down more and we will probably pick up a decent return of points against the top sides
38 points required from 21 games to give ourselves a really good chance.
Home games will be pivotal. You’re looking at a minimum of 7 wins from those 11 games (9 of them are very winnable) IMO.
7 wins adds 21 points to our total, meaning we have to find 17 more points from four home games and 10 away games.
We are up against it - no one has suggested we aren’t. But we are four wins in six now, let’s cross our fingers that we finally find some consistency. Keep it up and it’s absolutely within reach.
Think we're taking a bit of a punt on Ramsey and Chuks being available until the end of 46 games and possibly beyond as along with Small they are our most gifted players. There are a few that look a bit tired but the last week's schedule would knacker anyone. Broken record but the next 5 have classic Charlton written all over them. Not holding my breath but if - and it's a big if - we can avoid another pile up of injuries then it's a possibility. Just get Lloyd Jones signed up. Broken record again!
Has ANYONE from 5th to 12th been particularly consistent? Orient maybe? But then they have played all of the bottom 6 in the last 7 or 8 games.
edit; in fact I just looked and their run has included; 5th, 17th, 18th, 19th, 21st, 22nd, 23rd, 24th in their last 8 - you could barely hand pick an easier run on paper.
Has ANYONE from 5th to 12th been particularly consistent? Orient maybe? But then they have played all of the bottom 6 in the last 7 or 8 games.
edit; in fact I just looked and their run has included; 5th, 17th, 18th, 19th, 21st, 22nd, 23rd, 24th in their last 8 - you could barely hand pick an easier run on paper.
youve still got to win them and our seasons form questions whether we would do it
I've made a projection, using points per game (PPG) so far for the top 11 and calculating that over the season, then seeing the PPG we will need to achieve to be one point ahead of those teams.
P
Pts
PPG
Projected
PPG req
Birmingham City
24
56
2.33
107
3.40
Wycombe Wanderers
26
54
2.08
96
2.84
Wrexham
26
51
1.96
90
2.58
Huddersfield Town
25
48
1.92
88
2.49
Barnsley
26
42
1.62
74
1.82
Stockport County
26
41
1.58
73
1.74
Reading
25
41
1.64
75
1.88
Leyton Orient
25
38
1.52
70
1.62
Bolton Wanderers
26
38
1.46
67
1.49
Charlton Athletic
25
37
1.48
68
Mansfield Town
24
37
1.54
71
1.66
On this basis, Birmingham are uncatchable so far as we are concerned whilst overtaking Wycombe would require winning just about every game. Automatic promotion is evidently out of the question.
Re-ordering the list on the basis of PPG:
P
Pts
PPG
Projected
PPG req
Birmingham City
24
56
2.33
107
3.40
Wycombe Wanderers
26
54
2.08
96
2.84
Wrexham
26
51
1.96
90
2.58
Huddersfield Town
25
48
1.92
88
2.49
Reading
25
41
1.64
75
1.88
Barnsley
26
42
1.62
74
1.82
Mansfield Town
24
37
1.54
71
1.66
Stockport County
26
41
1.58
73
1.74
Leyton Orient
25
38
1.52
70
1.62
Charlton Athletic
25
37
1.48
68
Bolton Wanderers
26
38
1.46
67
1.49
Sixth place requires Charlton to achieve over 1.82 PPG until the end of the season. Fifth and sixth are currently close, so either could be achieved but would be demanding.
Comments
11 Home games left, 10 away games left.
You'd think we would need at least 7 more home wins as we've got to go away to Brum, Wrexham, Wycombe & Stockport.
One fortunate win from a deflected shot when we create so few shots on target won't see cafc finish in the top 6.
Miles Leaburn can go from a mediocre league 1 central striker to a sought after potential championship number 9 then back to a poor performance again last night.
Charlton are so erratic and so often our games are a spin toss whether we play top or bottom you just never know the outcome.
Blackpool and Rotherham will be sitting there thinking they can still make it, just can't be doing with the gloom this far out
We have had a good run with the exception of Rotherham and the next week we need to keep this going.
The annoying thing about Charlton is that just when you have about given up hope you get dragged back in!*
Huddersfield (4)
Barnsley (5)
Lincoln (12)
Exeter (14)
Stevenage (16)
Wigan (17)
Bristol Rovers (18)
Peterborough (19)
Northampton (20)
Shrewsbury (22)
Burton (23)
9 home wins plus 2 draws at home and 1.3 points a game when away (our current average) would take us to 79 points - almost certainly enough to get us into the Play Offs given the even level of ability of the teams in the division.
The form table shows us in or around the playoffs for most of the options. Indeed the shocking thing is how good Leyton Orient have been, while Rotherham are another side who are rising up the table.
I expect Stockport, without Barry, to slip out of the top 6.
Peterborough are having a very poor season, I hadn't realised quite how bad they've been in recent weeks.
come on lads lose the stereotype and get 3 points when you should
My big concern is depth. Rumoured midfielder on the way but think we probably need another 2 minimum after that coming in too. Ramsay coming back should also be a big boost
Nice thought, but just how long have you been following Charlton ? 5 years or 50 years.
We've proved that we can beat any team in this league and should be frightened of no one.
Yes, we still haven't been consistent, or consistently good, but Rotherham aside, we seem to be making some progress on that front.
In the the away games, we have a number of real stinkers - Brum, Orient, Stockport, Mansfield, Wycombe and Wrexham all being very notable ones. I just think that any team that can defend well against us and play more expansively with a bit of pace/quality can cause us problems. I think there are losses in potentially more than a couple of those, and they could be swing games that push others forward and harming us. This is all alongside the basis that we have greater pressure on home games being 3 points every time. It is very difficult to predict.
I think we're still a little bit too coinflip-y in our games. I think our defenders have mistakes in them and they may cost us. I think the positive recency bias in our form has been against teams that were in poorer form - just looking at Bolton, Evatt has been under pressure for ages. Rotherham was an unexpected wake-up call that we reacted well to last night. I have a nagging feeling that we could have at least one or more two games like that because of the inconsistency we've seen across the season so far.
I think we'll remain outside the radar for most people unless we win 4, 5 or 6 in a row. The next few games should be ones we can attempt that, but looking further forward, there are plenty of banana skins to be navigated. Meanwhile, we've also not yet added to the squad during January and, if we don't in the right areas, that's the other issue.
If we do I really don't have much hope we will get promoted, defensively we havent been good enough (as a whole team) and I think this squad lacks the steeliness and mentality that we had under Bowyers lot. When we our under the cosh we look defeated tbh.
at the start of the season I dreamt we would meet Wrexham in the playoff final ( I live 12 miles from Wrexham ) who knows maybe it was a premonition? I hope not as we lost 😂
Home games will be pivotal. You’re looking at a minimum of 7 wins from those 11 games (9 of them are very winnable) IMO.
7 wins adds 21 points to our total, meaning we have to find 17 more points from four home games and 10 away games.
We are up against it - no one has suggested we aren’t. But we are four wins in six now, let’s cross our fingers that we finally find some consistency. Keep it up and it’s absolutely within reach.
edit; in fact I just looked and their run has included; 5th, 17th, 18th, 19th, 21st, 22nd, 23rd, 24th in their last 8 - you could barely hand pick an easier run on paper.
On this basis, Birmingham are uncatchable so far as we are concerned whilst overtaking Wycombe would require winning just about every game. Automatic promotion is evidently out of the question.
Re-ordering the list on the basis of PPG:
Sixth place requires Charlton to achieve over 1.82 PPG until the end of the season. Fifth and sixth are currently close, so either could be achieved but would be demanding.