Not sure what anyone’s moaning about. Our tickets in the covered end lower last 2 years have been close to what Dartford charge a season. So no problem with them going up.
If we want to better part of that is “supporting” the club financially. I’m sure the extra money helps a little.
The amount of warnings we all got before the playoffs it was clear it’s best to buy weeks ago.
If you can’t afford it the put it on monthly
Oor are that tight if you miss a few games you go to your little calculator to see how much a game is give your head a wobble.
Imagine having a pop at people for having to think of the economics.
I'm not too bothered about the price increase, I was expecting it.
I do think the increase is a bit steep & will put some people off though. For what it's worth, once promotion was secured, I think a good marketing ploy from the the club would've been....
We're keeping season ticket prices at X amount for 1 more week, after that it will increase to Z amount.
It would've seen a surge in season ticket sales this week.
But what do I know 🤷♂️
You know enough to have worked out a common sense option that would have put a bit of (good) pressure on the undecided to commit which would have likely resulted in a 1500 - 2000 extra season tickets being sold.
I just dont get how the Club could'nt work it out though?
I'm not too bothered about the price increase, I was expecting it.
I do think the increase is a bit steep & will put some people off though. For what it's worth, once promotion was secured, I think a good marketing ploy from the the club would've been....
We're keeping season ticket prices at X amount for 1 more week, after that it will increase to Z amount.
It would've seen a surge in season ticket sales this week.
But what do I know 🤷♂️
Exactly right. Give people a bit of warning - rather than just "we're taking STs off sale for a few days" and letting people work it out for themselves - and ride the wave of euphoria and optimism that Sunday created for a week or so to ramp up sales, whilst letting people know they're getting a bargain.
Instead, we wake up the next morning and before the hangover has even kicked in the prices have gone up. Then you learn there's been no consultation at any level - so why are those people even there? What was the rush?
Absolutely, woke up Monday, sore head but still buzzing from Sunday, ready to get onto the backs of a few undecided with a "you know it makes sense" sales pitch and then find out the Club has all but ended the chances of making a few converts.
Think next year, to be able to afford the new season ticket early bird offer I might have to cancel valley gold. This assumes we stay up and the early bird offer is what the new prices are shown today. Be a shame as I’ve been in valley gold around 27 years, but it does roughly equal the increase in the season ticket cost.
Wonder what they would charge in the event of Promotion to the PL?
They’ve made worthwhile for people that renewed early and it’s still only £24 a game.
So what if they move kick off times or they’re midweek.
I don’t get some people. Desperate for a Wembley ticket but can’t go to The Valley on a Tuesday night.
You really aint getting it are you? This isn't about keeping the existing supporters i.e. those that sat in a 1/2 full Valley over the last 10 years or so watching us play the likes Crawley, Rochdale, Burton, Mansfield etc Its about how to get those on the fringes of Charlton support to commit and attend more regularly now that the opposition makes for a more attractive option. With that pricing The Valley is still going to struggle to attract much more than 18K for a cold Tuesday night versus Stoke. The Club is only going to move forward if it can attract those that have lapsed, attract new supporters and get its average attendance above 20K.
I get that the club are looking after all those that have kept going and staying with them: it’s only those that now fancy it that are upset.
They’ve rewarded loyalty and that’s upset the Curbishley out and day tripper brigade.
Wonder what they would charge in the event of Promotion to the PL?
They’ve made worthwhile for people that renewed early and it’s still only £24 a game.
So what if they move kick off times or they’re midweek.
I don’t get some people. Desperate for a Wembley ticket but can’t go to The Valley on a Tuesday night.
You really aint getting it are you? This isn't about keeping the existing supporters i.e. those that sat in a 1/2 full Valley over the last 10 years or so watching us play the likes Crawley, Rochdale, Burton, Mansfield etc Its about how to get those on the fringes of Charlton support to commit and attend more regularly now that the opposition makes for a more attractive option. With that pricing The Valley is still going to struggle to attract much more than 18K for a cold Tuesday night versus Stoke. The Club is only going to move forward if it can attract those that have lapsed, attract new supporters and get its average attendance above 20K.
I get that the club are looking after all those that have kept going and staying with them: it’s only those that now fancy it that are upset.
They’ve rewarded loyalty and that’s upset the Curbishley out and day tripper brigade.
The weird im better than you attitude on here from some is puzzling. You have literally zero idea why people have to make the decisions that they do.
Wonder what they would charge in the event of Promotion to the PL?
They’ve made worthwhile for people that renewed early and it’s still only £24 a game.
So what if they move kick off times or they’re midweek.
I don’t get some people. Desperate for a Wembley ticket but can’t go to The Valley on a Tuesday night.
You really aint getting it are you? This isn't about keeping the existing supporters i.e. those that sat in a 1/2 full Valley over the last 10 years or so watching us play the likes Crawley, Rochdale, Burton, Mansfield etc Its about how to get those on the fringes of Charlton support to commit and attend more regularly now that the opposition makes for a more attractive option. With that pricing The Valley is still going to struggle to attract much more than 18K for a cold Tuesday night versus Stoke. The Club is only going to move forward if it can attract those that have lapsed, attract new supporters and get its average attendance above 20K.
I get that the club are looking after all those that have kept going and staying with them: it’s only those that now fancy it that are upset.
They’ve rewarded loyalty and that’s upset the Curbishley out and day tripper brigade.
The weird im better than you attitude on here from some is puzzling. You have literally zero idea why people have to make the decisions that they do.
At no point have I intimidated I’m better.
Just feel that it’s pretty obvious ST prices go up if you are in a higher division.
I think mines gone up by £90 including VG discount.
I’ve simply said that is rewarding the people that have stuck with them and/or renewed prior to the play offs.
It’s still not overly expensive especially it can be paid monthly.
Anyway, I’m still buzzing from Sunday, so live laugh love and be happy
Wonder what they would charge in the event of Promotion to the PL?
They’ve made worthwhile for people that renewed early and it’s still only £24 a game.
So what if they move kick off times or they’re midweek.
I don’t get some people. Desperate for a Wembley ticket but can’t go to The Valley on a Tuesday night.
You really aint getting it are you? This isn't about keeping the existing supporters i.e. those that sat in a 1/2 full Valley over the last 10 years or so watching us play the likes Crawley, Rochdale, Burton, Mansfield etc Its about how to get those on the fringes of Charlton support to commit and attend more regularly now that the opposition makes for a more attractive option. With that pricing The Valley is still going to struggle to attract much more than 18K for a cold Tuesday night versus Stoke. The Club is only going to move forward if it can attract those that have lapsed, attract new supporters and get its average attendance above 20K.
I get that the club are looking after all those that have kept going and staying with them: it’s only those that now fancy it that are upset.
They’ve rewarded loyalty and that’s upset the Curbishley out and day tripper brigade.
Have you actually read the comments on here? Those include people who have already renewed but still think it's a questionable decision. But you then decide to label them, bizarrely, as the "Curbishley Out and day tripper brigade".
I'm glad you're still buzzing from Sunday though - as am I - because I'd hate to see what you'd type if you had the ump!
As long as there's consistency and the price drops just as hard when we get relegated next season I can accept the chunky increase even though it leaves a slight sour taste .
I think a price increase was inevitable and correct.
I think there is a valid debate as to whether £90 is too much and will it deter renewals and new or returning buyers. It certainly made me think "wow, how much?"
The counter argument is that if you didn't have a ST last season it is not an increase. If you did, you could have already bought at the lower price.
And, of course, it is a "better" product.
We don't know the match ticket prices for next year IIRC so not possible to say "if you miss four games it's not financially viable"
Also even with in house retail, catering is still outsourced and added profit per attendee is only £1 or £2 per game.
It would be interesting to hear from the Advisory Board members as to what the thinking was behind these numbers and what the projected income figures were at lower or higher increases.
Well if they increase match day prices too (much) that’s a further disincentive to the new/floating support.
The price point has to relate to alternate entertainment options (especially for a family) and a Sky / streaming subscription. The comparison is not other teams (for example) because most would not think to support a different team.
Getting the right price point is difficult but the club will also factor in that they lost £13m last FY and will lose £9m this.
Of course it’s a balance.
But I’d say the bonus cash from the play offs alone likely offset the forecast losses and a fuller Valley helps the team and maybe adds a better prize return based on league position.
It’s a shame they haven’t tried the route of price for the fans rather than monetise every aspect.
The increased TV money (£11m IIRC) would cover the losses in L1
If we kept the same budget as this year we'd just repeat 2020 and get relegated.
All of the increased TV money and other sponsorship, ticket money etc will get eaten up by increased wages and transfer fees.
You have constantly bemoaned the club's supposed lack of spending yet complain when they try to raise more funds.
Sadly, while there is a difficult balance to make, we can't have it both ways.
I think a price increase was inevitable and correct.
I think there is a valid debate as to whether £90 is too much and will it deter renewals and new or returning buyers. It certainly made me think "wow, how much?"
The counter argument is that if you didn't have a ST last season it is not an increase. If you did, you could have already bought at the lower price.
And, of course, it is a "better" product.
We don't know the match ticket prices for next year IIRC so not possible to say "if you miss four games it's not financially viable"
Also even with in house retail, catering is still outsourced and added profit per attendee is only £1 or £2 per game.
It would be interesting to hear from the Advisory Board members as to what the thinking was behind these numbers and what the projected income figures were at lower or higher increases.
Well if they increase match day prices too (much) that’s a further disincentive to the new/floating support.
The price point has to relate to alternate entertainment options (especially for a family) and a Sky / streaming subscription. The comparison is not other teams (for example) because most would not think to support a different team.
Getting the right price point is difficult but the club will also factor in that they lost £13m last FY and will lose £9m this.
Of course it’s a balance.
But I’d say the bonus cash from the play offs alone likely offset the forecast losses and a fuller Valley helps the team and maybe adds a better prize return based on league position.
It’s a shame they haven’t tried the route of price for the fans rather than monetise every aspect.
The increased TV money (£11m IIRC) would cover the losses in L1
If we kept the same budget as this year we'd just repeat 2020 and get relegated.
All of the increased TV money and other sponsorship, ticket money etc will get eaten up by increased wages and transfer fees.
You have constantly bemoaned the club's supposed lack of spending yet complain when they try to raise more funds.
Sadly, while there is a difficult balance to make, we can't have it both ways.
Agreed, but an immediate hike with a poor narrative (any narrative?) for what could have been a relatively low investment in a short term loyalty based booking window is questionable.
It feels like a business development decision made by finance rather than marketing, and those decisions are not always the right ones.
I just don’t understand people who talk about the price. I’d say you can go to any game and it cost about £40 with travel. Maybe 50. If you can’t afford that what other things are you prioritising. And for me once you've bought your season ticket that's it and that's the point. Who sist there whinging about missing a few games and the average cost going up. boo hoo - the sort of people that look at a bill after a meal and start adding up who had what. zzzzzzz
Firstly, I think a “last chance to buy” offer would have pushed a quite a few to tip into buying one. However, I think that is less likely amongst those who know in advance that they can’t go to all the home games. To be fair, there is a good chance they will be financially better off with savings on match by match tickets and other related costs. Someone mentioned they did not get a season ticket because of their kids. Tickets in the family stand are an absolute bargain and I would suggest having another look at them. I am a bit surprised that other fans are surprised that the tickets have gone up. The Club were pushing ST throughout the Wembley build up so no one can say they didn’t know. Unlike tickets for Wembley, everyone who wanted a season ticket could get one. Those who didn’t were I assume those who only wanted one IF we got promoted. I have no issue with that, or for the Club charging the going rate for that. I really hope you all buy one and help build a team that can keep us up.
Firstly, I think a “last chance to buy” offer would have pushed a quite a few to tip into buying one. However, I think that is less likely amongst those who know in advance that they can’t go to all the home games. To be fair, there is a good chance they will be financially better off with savings on match by match tickets and other related costs. Someone mentioned they did not get a season ticket because of their kids. Tickets in the family stand are an absolute bargain and I would suggest having another look at them. I am a bit surprised that other fans are surprised that the tickets have gone up. The Club were pushing ST throughout the Wembley build up so no one can say they didn’t know. Unlike tickets for Wembley, everyone who wanted a season ticket could get one. Those who didn’t were I assume those who only wanted one IF we got promoted. I have no issue with that, or for the Club charging the going rate for that. I really hope you all buy one and help build a team that can keep us up.
I'm still intrigued by this line which has been mentioned a couple of times. I'm not aware of any comms that stated prices would go up if we were promoted - just a note to say that they would be unavailable from Saturday and then on sale again after the match.
I think a price increase was inevitable and correct.
I think there is a valid debate as to whether £90 is too much and will it deter renewals and new or returning buyers. It certainly made me think "wow, how much?"
The counter argument is that if you didn't have a ST last season it is not an increase. If you did, you could have already bought at the lower price.
And, of course, it is a "better" product.
We don't know the match ticket prices for next year IIRC so not possible to say "if you miss four games it's not financially viable"
Also even with in house retail, catering is still outsourced and added profit per attendee is only £1 or £2 per game.
It would be interesting to hear from the Advisory Board members as to what the thinking was behind these numbers and what the projected income figures were at lower or higher increases.
Well if they increase match day prices too (much) that’s a further disincentive to the new/floating support.
The price point has to relate to alternate entertainment options (especially for a family) and a Sky / streaming subscription. The comparison is not other teams (for example) because most would not think to support a different team.
Getting the right price point is difficult but the club will also factor in that they lost £13m last FY and will lose £9m this.
Of course it’s a balance.
But I’d say the bonus cash from the play offs alone likely offset the forecast losses and a fuller Valley helps the team and maybe adds a better prize return based on league position.
It’s a shame they haven’t tried the route of price for the fans rather than monetise every aspect.
The increased TV money (£11m IIRC) would cover the losses in L1
If we kept the same budget as this year we'd just repeat 2020 and get relegated.
All of the increased TV money and other sponsorship, ticket money etc will get eaten up by increased wages and transfer fees.
You have constantly bemoaned the club's supposed lack of spending yet complain when they try to raise more funds.
Sadly, while there is a difficult balance to make, we can't have it both ways.
Agreed, but an immediate hike with a poor narrative (any narrative?) for what could have been a relatively low investment in a short term loyalty based booking window is questionable.
It feels like a business development decision made by finance rather than marketing, and those decisions are not always the right ones.
Firstly, I think a “last chance to buy” offer would have pushed a quite a few to tip into buying one. However, I think that is less likely amongst those who know in advance that they can’t go to all the home games. To be fair, there is a good chance they will be financially better off with savings on match by match tickets and other related costs. Someone mentioned they did not get a season ticket because of their kids. Tickets in the family stand are an absolute bargain and I would suggest having another look at them. I am a bit surprised that other fans are surprised that the tickets have gone up. The Club were pushing ST throughout the Wembley build up so no one can say they didn’t know. Unlike tickets for Wembley, everyone who wanted a season ticket could get one. Those who didn’t were I assume those who only wanted one IF we got promoted. I have no issue with that, or for the Club charging the going rate for that. I really hope you all buy one and help build a team that can keep us up.
I'm still intrigued by this line which has been mentioned a couple of times. I'm not aware of any comms that stated prices would go up if we were promoted - just a note to say that they would be unavailable from Saturday and then on sale again after the match.
There wasn’t but it ain’t to join the dots is it surely? Especially if we went up. Which we have thank god. And if they’ve gone up £100 or more it’s £2 a week more a year to a club people say they “support”. 😂
I'm more than happy to stick to my 10 games (plus 5 for the boy) 6 shirts between us, other tat and VG, just pointing out that the incentive for people to commit to more is decreasing.
It's great that some fans just spend the cash no matter what, but there's a big % where that extra £90 tips the budget over the scales... take the piss out of that all you like.
The match day tickets are, obviously, going to cost more. A season ticket will, I think, still show a good saving against buying on a match by match basis. Once the match day ticket price is announced then each person can decide if a season ticket is viable.
Firstly, I think a “last chance to buy” offer would have pushed a quite a few to tip into buying one. However, I think that is less likely amongst those who know in advance that they can’t go to all the home games. To be fair, there is a good chance they will be financially better off with savings on match by match tickets and other related costs. Someone mentioned they did not get a season ticket because of their kids. Tickets in the family stand are an absolute bargain and I would suggest having another look at them. I am a bit surprised that other fans are surprised that the tickets have gone up. The Club were pushing ST throughout the Wembley build up so no one can say they didn’t know. Unlike tickets for Wembley, everyone who wanted a season ticket could get one. Those who didn’t were I assume those who only wanted one IF we got promoted. I have no issue with that, or for the Club charging the going rate for that. I really hope you all buy one and help build a team that can keep us up.
I'm still intrigued by this line which has been mentioned a couple of times. I'm not aware of any comms that stated prices would go up if we were promoted - just a note to say that they would be unavailable from Saturday and then on sale again after the match.
There wasn’t but it ain’t to join the dots is it surely? Especially if we went up. Which we have thank god. And if they’ve gone up £100 or more it’s £2 a week more a year to a club people say they “support”. 😂
If "customers" are required to join up the dots, then the marketing comms have gone very very wrong.
I'm more than happy to stick to my 10 games (plus 5 for the boy) 6 shirts between us, other tat and VG, just pointing out that the incentive for people to commit to more is decreasing.
It's great that some fans just spend the cash no matter what, but there's a big % where that extra £90 tips the budget over the scales... take the piss out of that all you like.
So you're far better off saving on the shirts and VG (ST will get you better priority anyway) and spending on a ST even if you don't get to enough games. You'd have enough left for a shirt each as well tbf.
Not saying I agree with the price increase though and not only because this is gonna be the phase 1 price next year
Firstly, I think a “last chance to buy” offer would have pushed a quite a few to tip into buying one. However, I think that is less likely amongst those who know in advance that they can’t go to all the home games. To be fair, there is a good chance they will be financially better off with savings on match by match tickets and other related costs. Someone mentioned they did not get a season ticket because of their kids. Tickets in the family stand are an absolute bargain and I would suggest having another look at them. I am a bit surprised that other fans are surprised that the tickets have gone up. The Club were pushing ST throughout the Wembley build up so no one can say they didn’t know. Unlike tickets for Wembley, everyone who wanted a season ticket could get one. Those who didn’t were I assume those who only wanted one IF we got promoted. I have no issue with that, or for the Club charging the going rate for that. I really hope you all buy one and help build a team that can keep us up.
I'm still intrigued by this line which has been mentioned a couple of times. I'm not aware of any comms that stated prices would go up if we were promoted - just a note to say that they would be unavailable from Saturday and then on sale again after the match.
There wasn’t but it ain’t to join the dots is it surely? Especially if we went up. Which we have thank god. And if they’ve gone up £100 or more it’s £2 a week more a year to a club people say they “support”. 😂
So do you think they've missed a trick then by not coming out with something specific, just to join up those dots, like - "We're holding the prices for one more week so buy now, after which they will be going up to £X"?
I was signed up in the earlybird and got the cheapest price, so I’m not negatively impacted from a personal perspective. But like most fans I desperately want the ground filled with more actual Charlton fans, and I want to keep growing our younger support.
So what is the strategy?
We have a ground where on current ST sales for next season, we’ll have around 10-14,000 home seats to fill every week. We also have an older than average fanbase.
We have just had a trigger event that can deliver momentum.
Slapping an immediate big increase in price is an instant demotivator to a large majority of those carrying a bit of excitement from the weekend. The likelihood is that it will reduce those now looking at season tickets. Particularly once the initial excitement wears off and people then balance KO games are changed, they can mostly be viewed on Sky+ etc. We’ve lost the opportunity then to get casuals in as regulars.
I get completely the club want and need to put up prices. There’s money to be made from the rising number of occasional foreign football tourists to London, and increasing North Upper Matchday price they can then charge away fans more.
But if there is one thing we learned from Saturday looking around is that Charlton is at its core the ultimate Family Club. And we need to incentivise getting families in, getting more local kids back supporting Charlton again.
I’d suggest two things:
1. A short offer of the month of June to ‘thank everyone for their amazing support and to come with us on the journey’ to everyone currently on the clubs database to buy STs at an appropriate discount to the new prices (I’d suggest something £20 off Zone 3, £40 off Zone 2, £30 off Zone 3 so still higher than the pre-Sunday levels).
2. There’s a real lack of availability now in the Family Stand so I’d offer an incentive of something like 10% off Families buying 2 adults, 2+ kids STs in Zones 2 and 3) or 5% off 1 adult, 1+ kid STs in Zones 2 and 3). Getting that family of 4 to pay £1400 to sit in Zone 2, £1740 in Zone 3 is massively challenging, £1260 and £1566 would still be great committed income to the club.
Incentivise now to see more over the next month committing for the year, yet retain the higher price structure to max on matchday sales.
I'm not too bothered about the price increase, I was expecting it.
I do think the increase is a bit steep & will put some people off though. For what it's worth, once promotion was secured, I think a good marketing ploy from the the club would've been....
We're keeping season ticket prices at X amount for 1 more week, after that it will increase to Z amount.
It would've seen a surge in season ticket sales this week.
But what do I know 🤷♂️
Exactly right. Give people a bit of warning - rather than just "we're taking STs off sale for a few days" and letting people work it out for themselves - and ride the wave of euphoria and optimism that Sunday created for a week or so to ramp up sales, whilst letting people know they're getting a bargain.
Instead, we wake up the next morning and before the hangover has even kicked in the prices have gone up. Then you learn there's been no consultation at any level - so why are those people even there? What was the rush?
Didn't get a ST last year as was planning to move to Norfolk. Unfortunately hasn't worked out so was always going to get one this year. There was only a £10.00 difference between Phase 1 & Phase 2 so thought I'd hang on, however, I did wonder if the price would increase if we went up.
Therefore, I called the ticket office at the end of April & asked if that was a possibility but they didn't know so I emailed the club. I received an automatic response saying someone would contact me shortly but have heard nothing more. I took this as a sign that prices were likely to increase & bought a ST following the Burton game.
It's a shame that the club was not more transparent regarding this & offered supporters a window in which to avoid the increase.
I think a price increase was inevitable and correct.
I think there is a valid debate as to whether £90 is too much and will it deter renewals and new or returning buyers. It certainly made me think "wow, how much?"
The counter argument is that if you didn't have a ST last season it is not an increase. If you did, you could have already bought at the lower price.
And, of course, it is a "better" product.
We don't know the match ticket prices for next year IIRC so not possible to say "if you miss four games it's not financially viable"
Also even with in house retail, catering is still outsourced and added profit per attendee is only £1 or £2 per game.
It would be interesting to hear from the Advisory Board members as to what the thinking was behind these numbers and what the projected income figures were at lower or higher increases.
Well if they increase match day prices too (much) that’s a further disincentive to the new/floating support.
The price point has to relate to alternate entertainment options (especially for a family) and a Sky / streaming subscription. The comparison is not other teams (for example) because most would not think to support a different team.
Getting the right price point is difficult but the club will also factor in that they lost £13m last FY and will lose £9m this.
Of course it’s a balance.
But I’d say the bonus cash from the play offs alone likely offset the forecast losses and a fuller Valley helps the team and maybe adds a better prize return based on league position.
It’s a shame they haven’t tried the route of price for the fans rather than monetise every aspect.
The increased TV money (£11m IIRC) would cover the losses in L1
If we kept the same budget as this year we'd just repeat 2020 and get relegated.
All of the increased TV money and other sponsorship, ticket money etc will get eaten up by increased wages and transfer fees.
You have constantly bemoaned the club's supposed lack of spending yet complain when they try to raise more funds.
Sadly, while there is a difficult balance to make, we can't have it both ways.
Because it’s counterproductive.
It will dissuade floating supporters.
The club relies on owners swallowing losses clearly. But squeezing supporters for sums that won’t make a significant difference to what the owners can accommodate is the wrong way forward to me. We have a need to build support.
It’s not a case of wanting it both ways rather finding the balance that pulls more people in.
Wonder what they would charge in the event of Promotion to the PL?
They’ve made worthwhile for people that renewed early and it’s still only £24 a game.
So what if they move kick off times or they’re midweek.
I don’t get some people. Desperate for a Wembley ticket but can’t go to The Valley on a Tuesday night.
You really aint getting it are you? This isn't about keeping the existing supporters i.e. those that sat in a 1/2 full Valley over the last 10 years or so watching us play the likes Crawley, Rochdale, Burton, Mansfield etc Its about how to get those on the fringes of Charlton support to commit and attend more regularly now that the opposition makes for a more attractive option. With that pricing The Valley is still going to struggle to attract much more than 18K for a cold Tuesday night versus Stoke. The Club is only going to move forward if it can attract those that have lapsed, attract new supporters and get its average attendance above 20K.
I get that the club are looking after all those that have kept going and staying with them: it’s only those that now fancy it that are upset.
They’ve rewarded loyalty and that’s upset the Curbishley out and day tripper brigade.
Have you actually read the comments on here? Those include people who have already renewed but still think it's a questionable decision. But you then decide to label them, bizarrely, as the "Curbishley Out and day tripper brigade".
I'm glad you're still buzzing from Sunday though - as am I - because I'd hate to see what you'd type if you had the ump!
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I just dont get how the Club could'nt work it out though?
Now whether it's better financially to have low prices and higher attendances or the other way around is another debate.
Hopefully over the course of this season they can collect enough feedback and data to revisit the current pricing and find the right balance.
it’s only those that now fancy it that are upset.
I'm glad you're still buzzing from Sunday though - as am I - because I'd hate to see what you'd type if you had the ump!
If we kept the same budget as this year we'd just repeat 2020 and get relegated.
All of the increased TV money and other sponsorship, ticket money etc will get eaten up by increased wages and transfer fees.
You have constantly bemoaned the club's supposed lack of spending yet complain when they try to raise more funds.
Sadly, while there is a difficult balance to make, we can't have it both ways.
It feels like a business development decision made by finance rather than marketing, and those decisions are not always the right ones.
However, I think that is less likely amongst those who know in advance that they can’t go to all the home games. To be fair, there is a good chance they will be financially better off with savings on match by match tickets and other related costs.
Someone mentioned they did not get a season ticket because of their kids. Tickets in the family stand are an absolute bargain and I would suggest having another look at them.
I am a bit surprised that other fans are surprised that the tickets have gone up. The Club were pushing ST throughout the Wembley build up so no one can say they didn’t know.
Unlike tickets for Wembley, everyone who wanted a season ticket could get one. Those who didn’t were I assume those who only wanted one IF we got promoted.
I have no issue with that, or for the Club charging the going rate for that. I really hope you all buy one and help build a team that can keep us up.
I'm still intrigued by this line which has been mentioned a couple of times. I'm not aware of any comms that stated prices would go up if we were promoted - just a note to say that they would be unavailable from Saturday and then on sale again after the match.
It's great that some fans just spend the cash no matter what, but there's a big % where that extra £90 tips the budget over the scales... take the piss out of that all you like.
Once the match day ticket price is announced then each person can decide if a season ticket is viable.
Adult + Child ST = £630
So you're far better off saving on the shirts and VG (ST will get you better priority anyway) and spending on a ST even if you don't get to enough games. You'd have enough left for a shirt each as well tbf.
Not saying I agree with the price increase though and not only because this is gonna be the phase 1 price next year
Surely that would've been a win/win?
So what is the strategy?
But if there is one thing we learned from Saturday looking around is that Charlton is at its core the ultimate Family Club. And we need to incentivise getting families in, getting more local kids back supporting Charlton again.
I’d suggest two things:
1. A short offer of the month of June to ‘thank everyone for their amazing support and to come with us on the journey’ to everyone currently on the clubs database to buy STs at an appropriate discount to the new prices (I’d suggest something £20 off Zone 3, £40 off Zone 2, £30 off Zone 3 so still higher than the pre-Sunday levels).
2. There’s a real lack of availability now in the Family Stand so I’d offer an incentive of something like 10% off Families buying 2 adults, 2+ kids STs in Zones 2 and 3) or 5% off 1 adult, 1+ kid STs in Zones 2 and 3). Getting that family of 4 to pay £1400 to sit in Zone 2, £1740 in Zone 3 is massively challenging, £1260 and £1566 would still be great committed income to the club.
Incentivise now to see more over the next month committing for the year, yet retain the higher price structure to max on matchday sales.
Therefore, I called the ticket office at the end of April & asked if that was a possibility but they didn't know so I emailed the club. I received an automatic response saying someone would contact me shortly but have heard nothing more. I took this as a sign that prices were likely to increase & bought a ST following the Burton game.
It's a shame that the club was not more transparent regarding this & offered supporters a window in which to avoid the increase.
The 'Curbishley Out' brigade never existed.
You've got some front.