Surely they wouldn't have to "offer" anything. There is a defined compensation package under EPPP so they can "buy" him for whatever that is and we have no say whatsoever.
Shame, but once again out famous academy gets pillaged for its best talent due to the nonsense of a regulation bought in by Ged Roddy who for some reason we then employed.
Who knows if the lad will make it or not anyway. I remember when Man Utd poached that CB off us, never heard about him again.
Yeah we’ll see in time, it’s gone both ways with players who’ve made similar moves.
McGinty hasn’t had the career that would have been expected, neither has Timmy Abraham.
Sarmiento, Palmer, Beadle and Ramazani all seem to be doing well enough and would have surely broken into our first team had they stayed and attracted big offers.
We also have another two recent ones in Chizzy Ezenwata who’s been scoring goals in Chelsea’s academy, and Lescond Yeutembip who joined Newcastle nearly a year ago.
I hope there are no plans to move Ramsay to wing back. He didn’t offer that much going forwards when playing there, but was pretty untouchable at right centre back.
I hope there are no plans to move Ramsay to wing back. He didn’t offer that much going forwards when playing there, but was pretty untouchable at right centre back.
There’s no way we’d be looking to bring in Mbengue or Offiah as squad options and both are best suited to the rcb role so that’s probably what the plan is. Think it’s hard to judge Ramsay off 6 games at wingback when the whole game plan when he played there wasn’t to even use the wingbacks as well it was just hoof the ball to Ahadme or Aneke. This is the championship as well think the aim is to first be solid then hope the midfield and forward line can nick a few goals
If Nathan Jones had placed a value on Small, and it wasn't acceptable to Small, and any other club had come in with a higher bid he'd likely have left for the higher bid. I think we can do better.
If Nathan Jones had placed a value on Small, and it wasn't acceptable to Small, and any other club had come in with a higher bid he'd likely have left for the higher bid. I think we can do better.
eh? when you say value do you mean wages? if someone offers a player significantly more money, then its his choice what he does- he's out of contract after all, so its who makes the overall best offer for his services. Obviously NJ thought we could do better than Small, but Preston didn't think they could, or had the bigger budget and offered more.
Surely they wouldn't have to "offer" anything. There is a defined compensation package under EPPP so they can "buy" him for whatever that is and we have no say whatsoever.
Shame, but once again out famous academy gets pillaged for its best talent due to the nonsense of a regulation bought in by Ged Roddy who for some reason we then employed.
Clubs do still pay for youth players in some cases though. Man City have just signed the 15 year old son of Danny Cadamarteri from Sheff Weds for a reported 1.5m, and Man U have signed a 16 year old centre back from Southampton.
Unfortunately that's football. If kids want to walk away from clubs like us and Southampton who have proven track records of promoting kids to the first team then so be it.
Harry Toffolo released by Notts Forest …. Was a very good player when he was at Lincoln where we were interested in him , he ended up at Huddersfield..
Harry Toffolo released by Notts Forest …. Was a very good player when he was at Lincoln where we were interested in him , he ended up at Huddersfield..
He's 30 soon and i'd imagine his wages will be too high for us. He'll probably get a move to a top 6 championship club.
Hearing we might have Liam Thompson, could be old news...
Someone mentioned him on here before.
He’s out of contract at Derby but they’ve offered a new deal. He’s 23 so we’d have to pay compensation. Central midfielder but sounds like he’s versatile, covered in other positions including wing back.
The team needs reinforcements a s a p else we will go straight down. Take the Wrexham away game. We were a bit under strength, but were soundly beaten by a faster, bigger, more skilful side, a side that finished second in L1.
I m o that game was a benchmark for what we can expect this coming season. I also saw us beaten at Rotherham and Peterborough, two mediocre sides. We just cannot afford such lapses from now on. The core strength of our side is decent, BUT we will not know how decent until the season starts. The thing is, once the season starts, IF we are not good enough, there will be a long wait until we can strengthen. I do not want to see us playing catch up from way down the pack.
Far better to speculate on new players NOW rather than later. Midfield and attack need an overhaul. We will get suspensions and injuries along the way and will need a stronger squad than we have now. @_MrDick's post is worrying. If factual, it's air of complacency is not good enough. We will not need to spend silly millions, but well scouted reinforcements who will enhance the squad are needed NOW.
The team needs reinforcements a s a p else we will go straight down. Take the Wrexham away game. We were a bit under strength, but were soundly beaten by a faster, bigger, more skilful side, a side that finished second in L1.
I m o that game was a benchmark for what we can expect this coming season. I also saw us beaten at Rotherham and Peterborough, two mediocre sides. We just cannot afford such lapses from now on. The core strength of our side is decent, BUT we will not know how decent until the season starts. The thing is, once the season starts, IF we are not good enough, there will be a long wait until we can strengthen. I do not want to see us playing catch up from way down the pack.
Far better to speculate on new players NOW rather than later. Midfield and attack need an overhaul. We will get suspensions and injuries along the way and will need a stronger squad than we have now. @_MrDick's post is worrying. If factual, it's air of complacency is not good enough. We will not need to spend silly millions, but well scouted reinforcements who will enhance the squad are needed NOW.
And it starts……
we also beat Wycombe away and Huddersfield at home 4-0. Both were in the play offs at the time
we so need reinforcements but seeing the season starts in 2 months, we don’t need them NOW. It would be good to have most of the squad sorted for pre season
I just saw a post on Facebook that we'd signed a Derby player called Liam. Came on here to check as the window is closed, and when I went back, the post had gone. Price £1.4m plus add ons. Gotta be honest, it seems like a prank.
I just saw a post on Facebook that we'd signed a Derby player called Liam. Came on here to check as the window is closed, and when I went back, the post had gone. Price £1.4m plus add ons. Gotta be honest, it seems like a prank.
Hearing we might have Liam Thompson, could be old news...
Someone mentioned him on here before.
He’s out of contract at Derby but they’ve offered a new deal. He’s 23 so we’d have to pay compensation. Central midfielder but sounds like he’s versatile, covered in other positions including wing back.
I just saw a post on Facebook that we'd signed a Derby player called Liam. Came on here to check as the window is closed, and when I went back, the post had gone. Price £1.4m plus add ons. Gotta be honest, it seems like a prank.
Surely they wouldn't have to "offer" anything. There is a defined compensation package under EPPP so they can "buy" him for whatever that is and we have no say whatsoever.
Shame, but once again out famous academy gets pillaged for its best talent due to the nonsense of a regulation bought in by Ged Roddy who for some reason we then employed.
Clubs do still pay for youth players in some cases though. Man City have just signed the 15 year old son of Danny Cadamarteri from Sheff Weds for a reported 1.5m, and Man U have signed a 16 year old centre back from Southampton.
Unfortunately that's football. If kids want to walk away from clubs like us and Southampton who have proven track records of promoting kids to the first team then so be it.
Fair enough, I can o lying assume Cadamateri demanded higher compensation was paid as Man City wouldn't pay more than they need to understand the law, despite them being minted.
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Shame, but once again out famous academy gets pillaged for its best talent due to the nonsense of a regulation bought in by Ged Roddy who for some reason we then employed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sean_McGinty
Sarmiento, Palmer, Beadle and Ramazani all seem to be doing well enough and would have surely broken into our first team had they stayed and attracted big offers.
We also have another two recent ones in Chizzy Ezenwata who’s been scoring goals in Chelsea’s academy, and Lescond Yeutembip who joined Newcastle nearly a year ago.
https://forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/96085/academy-prospects-lost/p1
https://www.lep.co.uk/sport/football/preston-north-end/amadou-mbengue-transfer-news-reading-fc-preston-watford-blackburn-rovers-qpr-charlton-5171932
Unfortunately that's football. If kids want to walk away from clubs like us and Southampton who have proven track records of promoting kids to the first team then so be it.
He’s out of contract at Derby but they’ve offered a new deal. He’s 23 so we’d have to pay compensation. Central midfielder but sounds like he’s versatile, covered in other positions including wing back.
https://www.dcfc.co.uk/amp/news/2025/05/club-update-derby-county-retained-list-202425-season
Take the Wrexham away game. We were a bit under strength, but were soundly beaten by a faster, bigger, more skilful side, a side that finished second in L1.
I m o that game was a benchmark for what we can expect this coming season. I also saw us beaten at Rotherham and Peterborough, two mediocre sides. We just cannot afford such lapses from now on.
The core strength of our side is decent, BUT we will not know how decent until the season starts.
The thing is, once the season starts, IF we are not good enough, there will be a long wait until we can strengthen. I do not want to see us playing catch up from way down the pack.
Far better to speculate on new players NOW rather than later. Midfield and attack need an overhaul. We will get suspensions and injuries along the way and will need a stronger squad than we have now.
@_MrDick's post is worrying. If factual, it's air of complacency is not good enough. We will not need to spend silly millions, but well scouted reinforcements who will enhance the squad are needed NOW.
we also beat Wycombe away and Huddersfield at home 4-0. Both were in the play offs at the time
we so need reinforcements but seeing the season starts in 2 months, we don’t need them NOW. It would be good to have most of the squad sorted for pre season
Gotta be honest, it seems like a prank.