Given how Jones said we'd picked our targets regardless if we were a Championship or League One club next season... You have to wonder
(1) Who wouldn't have joined us had we not gone up, from the current group of signings.
(2) If we were spending this sort of money in League One next season, we'd surely have gone up.
Kelman - No chance as we wouldn't have spent the money. Apter - same as above. Kaminski - same as above, plus Mannion was fine for league 1. Olaofe - maybe could've got him but if there were Championship clubs interested then i doubt it. JRC - probably wouldn't have dropped down a league. Carey - i think he was a done deal regardless of the division. Bell/Burke - may well have signed regardless because of the connection with Jones.
The narrative of "our targets are the same no matter the league" was to play down the Wembley game imo, and how massive it actually was for our transfer window.
Not a chance these would have been attainable targets in league 1. That promotion has changed our trajectory.
We would be without Ramsay and TC at a minimum, and would have signed maybe Carey and the ex-Luton lads at a push. No chance we land Kelman, Apter and are in for Knibbs.
Is this the most we’ve ever spent in a transfer window? Or do the PL days beat it
We had that window under Dowie where we spent a lot... On shit
Couple of legends at bargain prices what you talking about
Jesus . Two of the worst players ever to put the shirt on . Dowie should have been locked up !
I will never understand giving Dowie more money in one summer than Curbs had had combined pretty much.
If I remember right, at the time Dowie was appointed, there was a new TV deal agreed - with significantly increased payments to Prem League clubs. Justifying our big spending, didn't Richard Murray say something along the lines that it was' vital Charlton stayed in the Prem'?
Is this the most we’ve ever spent in a transfer window? Or do the PL days beat it
We had that window under Dowie where we spent a lot... On shit
Couple of legends at bargain prices what you talking about
Jesus . Two of the worst players ever to put the shirt on . Dowie should have been locked up !
I will never understand giving Dowie more money in one summer than Curbs had had combined pretty much.
Didn't Curbs see Murray after that window, and jokingly complain that he never got given those sort of funds?
They were all crap apart from Carson too, and yes I include the perennially unfit and overweight, albeit very talented Andy Reid in that
Andy Reid was most certainly not crap. Wonderful footballer. Gets in pretty much any charlton team over the past 20 years.
He was hugely overweight in the premier league and hardly played. Good in the championship until he wanted to move in January. Talented, yes .
This is probably not helping the discussion, but, yes Dowie was a shit manager, but remember Richard Murray's role in all of this. Richard Murray brought someone in to pick the incoming players and deal with the transfers, Billy Davies turned down the Charlton manager position because of this set up, and that set up didn't change under Dowie, it rather suits a certain individual to lay all the blame at Dowie's door, especially when he was the one who employed him, much to the annoyance and against the advice of fellow directors.
Is this the most we’ve ever spent in a transfer window? Or do the PL days beat it
We had that window under Dowie where we spent a lot... On shit
Couple of legends at bargain prices what you talking about
Jesus . Two of the worst players ever to put the shirt on . Dowie should have been locked up !
I will never understand giving Dowie more money in one summer than Curbs had had combined pretty much.
If I remember right, at the time Dowie was appointed, there was a new TV deal agreed - with significantly increased payments to Prem League clubs. Justifying our big spending, didn't Richard Murray say something along the lines that it was' vital Charlton stayed in the Prem'?
We all know how that turned out.
Yes, Murray said the next tv Prem deal was going to be massive so that coming season was not the one to get relegated in.
So then he appointed Dowie to get back at Simon Jordan. The rest, as the say, is history.
Is this the most we’ve ever spent in a transfer window? Or do the PL days beat it
We had that window under Dowie where we spent a lot... On shit
Couple of legends at bargain prices what you talking about
Jesus . Two of the worst players ever to put the shirt on . Dowie should have been locked up !
I will never understand giving Dowie more money in one summer than Curbs had had combined pretty much.
If I remember right, at the time Dowie was appointed, there was a new TV deal agreed - with significantly increased payments to Prem League clubs. Justifying our big spending, didn't Richard Murray say something along the lines that it was' vital Charlton stayed in the Prem'?
We all know how that turned out.
I think the new deal came in the season after Dowie’s appointment. The money they gave him was an attempt to ensure we stayed in the Prem for when it kicked in. The rest is history…
Is this the most we’ve ever spent in a transfer window? Or do the PL days beat it
We had that window under Dowie where we spent a lot... On shit
Couple of legends at bargain prices what you talking about
Jesus . Two of the worst players ever to put the shirt on . Dowie should have been locked up !
And £4m back then was decent money too
Trying to remember the other signings bar Diawara that summer? Think he was another £3.5m but now my minds gone blank on the rest
We spent £12 million that window.
We’ll have spent around that this summer if we get Knibbs, and maybe over it if we sign 1 or 2 more.
Including add-ons, £12m probably what all the deals in total could be worth.
But most of the fees will be paid in instalments spread over the length of each contract. Only the instalments so far actually paid will be included in this year's accounts.
Is this the most we’ve ever spent in a transfer window? Or do the PL days beat it
We had that window under Dowie where we spent a lot... On shit
Couple of legends at bargain prices what you talking about
Jesus . Two of the worst players ever to put the shirt on . Dowie should have been locked up !
I will never understand giving Dowie more money in one summer than Curbs had had combined pretty much.
Didn't Curbs see Murray after that window, and jokingly complain that he never got given those sort of funds?
They were all crap apart from Carson too, and yes I include the perennially unfit and overweight, albeit very talented Andy Reid in that
Andy Reid was most certainly not crap. Wonderful footballer. Gets in pretty much any charlton team over the past 20 years.
He was hugely overweight in the premier league and hardly played. Good in the championship until he wanted to move in January. Talented, yes .
This is probably not helping the discussion, but, yes Dowie was a shit manager, but remember Richard Murray's role in all of this. Richard Murray brought someone in to pick the incoming players and deal with the transfers, Billy Davies turned down the Charlton manager position because of this set up, and that set up didn't change under Dowie, it rather suits a certain individual to lay all the blame at Dowie's door, especially when he was the one who employed him, much to the annoyance and against the advice of fellow directors.
And Murray was letting Curbishley still chose the players to sign like Hasslebank after he left .. Dowie had no say in transfers ….. plus Murray did not put a relegation clause into any of the contracts , hence the reason you had players like Marcus Bent on 22k a week sitting in the stands for 18 months …
Is this the most we’ve ever spent in a transfer window? Or do the PL days beat it
We had that window under Dowie where we spent a lot... On shit
Couple of legends at bargain prices what you talking about
Jesus . Two of the worst players ever to put the shirt on . Dowie should have been locked up !
I will never understand giving Dowie more money in one summer than Curbs had had combined pretty much.
Didn't Curbs see Murray after that window, and jokingly complain that he never got given those sort of funds?
They were all crap apart from Carson too, and yes I include the perennially unfit and overweight, albeit very talented Andy Reid in that
Andy Reid was most certainly not crap. Wonderful footballer. Gets in pretty much any charlton team over the past 20 years.
He was hugely overweight in the premier league and hardly played. Good in the championship until he wanted to move in January. Talented, yes .
This is probably not helping the discussion, but, yes Dowie was a shit manager, but remember Richard Murray's role in all of this. Richard Murray brought someone in to pick the incoming players and deal with the transfers, Billy Davies turned down the Charlton manager position because of this set up, and that set up didn't change under Dowie, it rather suits a certain individual to lay all the blame at Dowie's door, especially when he was the one who employed him, much to the annoyance and against the advice of fellow directors.
And Murray was letting Curbishley still chose the players to sign like Hasslebank after he left .. Dowie had no say in transfers ….. plus Murray did not put a relegation clause into any of the contracts , hence the reason you had players like Marcus Bent on 22k a week sitting in the stands for 18 months …
Even for you that is an incredibly inaccurate post.
Curbs had no say after he left.
Dowie had too much say, signing players from agents he was "mates" with. I wonder why?
M Bent was never on £22k a week. I still have the spreadsheet of the wages from that time at home somewhere. No one was on that much.
They had to sign Kelman to make up for the disappointment of losing Ahadme.
You joke, but two seasons ago we would have been the club selling Kelman and bringing in Ahadme.
Whoever is responsible for steering the new owners in the right direction and splashing the cash is a God.
Would expect it's probably got a lot to do with Gavin Carter now being their man on the ground and getting Chapple in to replace Andy Scott.
The massive increase in the budget is nothing to do with Scott or Chapple, they just deal with the budget they are given.
Indeed NJ has surely driven nearly all these signings, considering the number who either played against us in L1 or played for him at Luton.
The massive increase in budget is because we will make at least £10m more this season in revenue. If we hadn’t been promoted, I would assume the budget would have been pretty similar to last seasons. Plus if we didn’t spend like this we’d likely be heading straight back to league 1 so it was a no brainer
Is this the most we’ve ever spent in a transfer window? Or do the PL days beat it
We had that window under Dowie where we spent a lot... On shit
Couple of legends at bargain prices what you talking about
Jesus . Two of the worst players ever to put the shirt on . Dowie should have been locked up !
I will never understand giving Dowie more money in one summer than Curbs had had combined pretty much.
Didn't Curbs see Murray after that window, and jokingly complain that he never got given those sort of funds?
They were all crap apart from Carson too, and yes I include the perennially unfit and overweight, albeit very talented Andy Reid in that
Andy Reid was most certainly not crap. Wonderful footballer. Gets in pretty much any charlton team over the past 20 years.
He was hugely overweight in the premier league and hardly played. Good in the championship until he wanted to move in January. Talented, yes .
This is probably not helping the discussion, but, yes Dowie was a shit manager, but remember Richard Murray's role in all of this. Richard Murray brought someone in to pick the incoming players and deal with the transfers, Billy Davies turned down the Charlton manager position because of this set up, and that set up didn't change under Dowie, it rather suits a certain individual to lay all the blame at Dowie's door, especially when he was the one who employed him, much to the annoyance and against the advice of fellow directors.
And Murray was letting Curbishley still chose the players to sign like Hasslebank after he left .. Dowie had no say in transfers ….. plus Murray did not put a relegation clause into any of the contracts , hence the reason you had players like Marcus Bent on 22k a week sitting in the stands for 18 months …
Is this the most we’ve ever spent in a transfer window? Or do the PL days beat it
We had that window under Dowie where we spent a lot... On shit
Couple of legends at bargain prices what you talking about
Jesus . Two of the worst players ever to put the shirt on . Dowie should have been locked up !
I will never understand giving Dowie more money in one summer than Curbs had had combined pretty much.
Didn't Curbs see Murray after that window, and jokingly complain that he never got given those sort of funds?
They were all crap apart from Carson too, and yes I include the perennially unfit and overweight, albeit very talented Andy Reid in that
Andy Reid was most certainly not crap. Wonderful footballer. Gets in pretty much any charlton team over the past 20 years.
He was hugely overweight in the premier league and hardly played. Good in the championship until he wanted to move in January. Talented, yes .
This is probably not helping the discussion, but, yes Dowie was a shit manager, but remember Richard Murray's role in all of this. Richard Murray brought someone in to pick the incoming players and deal with the transfers, Billy Davies turned down the Charlton manager position because of this set up, and that set up didn't change under Dowie, it rather suits a certain individual to lay all the blame at Dowie's door, especially when he was the one who employed him, much to the annoyance and against the advice of fellow directors.
And Murray was letting Curbishley still chose the players to sign like Hasslebank after he left .. Dowie had no say in transfers ….. plus Murray did not put a relegation clause into any of the contracts , hence the reason you had players like Marcus Bent on 22k a week sitting in the stands for 18 months …
Reading between the lines here, maybe if that bid was true, we did it to beat off (don't post the gif ffs) Portsmouth & Wrexhams interest?
2.5 million if true is a great return for Reading who picked him up on a free, but he does really improve us and we could do with his goals. I think it's good value for us both.
I've asked Rich on twitter and he hasn't denied it yet, which I now see as a good sign when he goes quiet.
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No idea how they will all fit in & team selection will be a nightmare. But that's not my problem !
So are we therefore assuming the 3.5m rising to 5m with add ons that Fabrizio reported is total bollocks?
Not a chance these would have been attainable targets in league 1. That promotion has changed our trajectory.
We would be without Ramsay and TC at a minimum, and would have signed maybe Carey and the ex-Luton lads at a push. No chance we land Kelman, Apter and are in for Knibbs.
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Justifying our big spending, didn't Richard Murray say something along the lines that it was' vital Charlton stayed in the Prem'?
We all know how that turned out.
So then he appointed Dowie to get back at Simon Jordan. The rest, as the say, is history.
But most of the fees will be paid in instalments spread over the length of each contract.
Only the instalments so far actually paid will be included in this year's accounts.
Indeed NJ has surely driven nearly all these signings, considering the number who either played against us in L1 or played for him at Luton.
Curbs had no say after he left.
Dowie had too much say, signing players from agents he was "mates" with. I wonder why?
M Bent was never on £22k a week. I still have the spreadsheet of the wages from that time at home somewhere. No one was on that much.
Source of the post
Reading between the lines here, maybe if that bid was true, we did it to beat off (don't post the gif ffs) Portsmouth & Wrexhams interest?
2.5 million if true is a great return for Reading who picked him up on a free, but he does really improve us and we could do with his goals. I think it's good value for us both.
I've asked Rich on twitter and he hasn't denied it yet, which I now see as a good sign when he goes quiet.