It's funny cause when we were originally linked I thought Famewo would have been a good pick up, now I wouldn't be fussed and think we can do much better.
The cash expenditure has turned me into a total football diva.
And how about Sarpong-Wiredu? You supported me on that one. Changed your mind there, as well?
I still believe Berry will be gone come the end of the window… I still reckon another quality CM is needed.
Funny how the tide has turned. Before the window opened, I got pelters on here for suggesting that Berry would not start many games. (Though I fully expected him to be named on the bench).
Now the great and the good are leaving him out of their suggested matchday squads altogether and no-one is protesting.
I fear he may be difficult to shift because he is paid too well.
I still believe Berry will be gone come the end of the window… I still reckon another quality CM is needed.
Funny how the tide has turned. Before the window opened, I got pelters on here for suggesting that Berry would not start many games. (Though I fully expected him to be named on the bench).
Now the great and the good are leaving him out of their suggested matchday squads altogether and no-one is protesting.
I fear he may be difficult to shift because he is paid too well.
I just don’t think he could cope now with the pace of the Championship. He’s not exactly the quickest.
Berry is 33 now, he was never going to be playing every week in the Championship. He'll be used as an impact sub when we need a goal and he'll do well at it
I still believe Berry will be gone come the end of the window… I still reckon another quality CM is needed.
Funny how the tide has turned. Before the window opened, I got pelters on here for suggesting that Berry would not start many games. (Though I fully expected him to be named on the bench).
Now the great and the good are leaving him out of their suggested matchday squads altogether and no-one is protesting.
I fear he may be difficult to shift because he is paid too well.
I just don’t think he could cope now with the pace of the Championship. He’s not exactly the quickest.
Although Berry was a bit of a super sub for Luton in the Premier, only 18months ago
With discussions on here about the 11 starting against Watford we should remember that some of the players that joined later on have missed some of pre season and will be slightly behind both on fitness and learning the system. I think Kelman and Knibbs will be on the bench for Watford. They will likely be in our best 11 but they are unlikely to be starting against Watford.
With discussions on here about the 11 starting against Watford we should remember that some of the players that joined later on have missed some of pre season and will be slightly behind both on fitness and learning the system. I think Kelman and Knibbs will be on the bench for Watford. They will likely be in our best 11 but they are unlikely to be starting against Watford.
100%, those saying tonight we should have our strongest team out playing to impress and that we won’t learn anything against Southend are on the wrong page
These friendly matches are all about fitness and avoiding injury
I still believe Berry will be gone come the end of the window… I still reckon another quality CM is needed.
And which L1 side is going to be paying the rumoured wage of 8k a week for Berry? Nothing wrong with him as a Squad player and a key dressing room figure let him give all he can for one year and then give him a proper goodbye next season
I still believe Berry will be gone come the end of the window… I still reckon another quality CM is needed.
And which L1 side is going to be paying the rumoured wage of 8k a week for Berry? Nothing wrong with him as a Squad player and a key dressing room figure let him give all he can for one year and then give him a proper goodbye next season
I think Berry will stay around. Looks a good character around the place.. I think he will play more sub role, and maybe take his badges.. and might get a Hylton type of role
Berry is 33 now, he was never going to be playing every week in the Championship. He'll be used as an impact sub when we need a goal and he'll do well at it
Berry important part of the squad he played a major role in getting us promoted after people were quick to write him off last season ….. so there will no change this season Berry will be a match winner again ….
With discussions on here about the 11 starting against Watford we should remember that some of the players that joined later on have missed some of pre season and will be slightly behind both on fitness and learning the system. I think Kelman and Knibbs will be on the bench for Watford. They will likely be in our best 11 but they are unlikely to be starting against Watford.
How are Kelman and Knibbs behind on fitness. They’ve been in full training.
They’ve not downed tools. Fitness wise they’re the same as the others. is Apter behind because he only had half of the week in Slovenia. if they’re behind, it will be in the understanding of how our old squad played and the old squad’s understanding of how they play.. Powell managed a similar transition perfectly well.
With discussions on here about the 11 starting against Watford we should remember that some of the players that joined later on have missed some of pre season and will be slightly behind both on fitness and learning the system. I think Kelman and Knibbs will be on the bench for Watford. They will likely be in our best 11 but they are unlikely to be starting against Watford.
100%, those saying tonight we should have our strongest team out playing to impress and that we won’t learn anything against Southend are on the wrong page
These friendly matches are all about fitness and avoiding injury
With discussions on here about the 11 starting against Watford we should remember that some of the players that joined later on have missed some of pre season and will be slightly behind both on fitness and learning the system. I think Kelman and Knibbs will be on the bench for Watford. They will likely be in our best 11 but they are unlikely to be starting against Watford.
100%, those saying tonight we should have our strongest team out playing to impress and that we won’t learn anything against Southend are on the wrong page
These friendly matches are all about fitness and avoiding injury
Paying Ipswich is totally different to the dross we have played before. This is about players understanding each others game and fitness. Albeit we didn’t start the strongest side. Keep Watford guessing is probably the idea. We aren’t putting our strongest 11 out v Southend either. Very strange pre season because we have signed so many players.
With discussions on here about the 11 starting against Watford we should remember that some of the players that joined later on have missed some of pre season and will be slightly behind both on fitness and learning the system. I think Kelman and Knibbs will be on the bench for Watford. They will likely be in our best 11 but they are unlikely to be starting against Watford.
How are Kelman and Knibbs behind on fitness. They’ve been in full training.
They’ve not downed tools. Fitness wise they’re the same as the others. is Apter behind because he only had half of the week in Slovenia. if they’re behind, it will be in the understanding of how our old squad played and the old squad’s understanding of how they play.. Powell managed a similar transition perfectly well.
Knibbs has kind of downed tools TBF, he's not played in PSFs recently because of an impending move...
Berry is 33 now, he was never going to be playing every week in the Championship. He'll be used as an impact sub when we need a goal and he'll do well at it
Berry important part of the squad he played a major role in getting us promoted after people were quick to write him off last season ….. so there will no change this season Berry will be a match winner again ….
Berry is 33 now, he was never going to be playing every week in the Championship. He'll be used as an impact sub when we need a goal and he'll do well at it
Berry important part of the squad he played a major role in getting us promoted after people were quick to write him off last season ….. so there will no change this season Berry will be a match winner again ….
Berry will be a Danny Hiyton type play this year. Perhaps a few more appearances. 15-20 appearances max. A few more if there are big injuries.
Best to not get to fixated on Berry, I know a few don’t rate him, but sometimes you need experience, I’m relaxed either way whether NJ thinks he’s got a part to play or not.
Lets just try and enjoy the ride, if we have a slow start to the season, lose the first 5 on the bounce, or go on a bad run, rather than moaning and sniping from the sides, we’re all going to have to suck it up and get behind the club even more, they are going to need our support more than ever, who knows how long the feel good party is going to last.
With discussions on here about the 11 starting against Watford we should remember that some of the players that joined later on have missed some of pre season and will be slightly behind both on fitness and learning the system. I think Kelman and Knibbs will be on the bench for Watford. They will likely be in our best 11 but they are unlikely to be starting against Watford.
How are Kelman and Knibbs behind on fitness. They’ve been in full training.
They’ve not downed tools. Fitness wise they’re the same as the others. is Apter behind because he only had half of the week in Slovenia. if they’re behind, it will be in the understanding of how our old squad played and the old squad’s understanding of how they play.. Powell managed a similar transition perfectly well.
Think it’s pretty clear we are 2/3 weeks behind and playing catch up hence the niggles and small injuries we picked up .. also normally last night the first eleven would have played 75 mins but we can’t fit in the number of games that we would have liked .. … play off win was great but !!!
With discussions on here about the 11 starting against Watford we should remember that some of the players that joined later on have missed some of pre season and will be slightly behind both on fitness and learning the system. I think Kelman and Knibbs will be on the bench for Watford. They will likely be in our best 11 but they are unlikely to be starting against Watford.
How are Kelman and Knibbs behind on fitness. They’ve been in full training.
They’ve not downed tools. Fitness wise they’re the same as the others. is Apter behind because he only had half of the week in Slovenia. if they’re behind, it will be in the understanding of how our old squad played and the old squad’s understanding of how they play.. Powell managed a similar transition perfectly well.
Think it’s pretty clear we are 2/3 weeks behind and playing catch up hence the niggles and small injuries we picked up .. also normally last night the first eleven would have played 75 mins but we can’t fit in the number of games that we would have liked .. … play off win was great but !!!
Interesting that we weren’t undercooked after our last two playoff wins . We’ve also done our business early.
With discussions on here about the 11 starting against Watford we should remember that some of the players that joined later on have missed some of pre season and will be slightly behind both on fitness and learning the system. I think Kelman and Knibbs will be on the bench for Watford. They will likely be in our best 11 but they are unlikely to be starting against Watford.
How are Kelman and Knibbs behind on fitness. They’ve been in full training.
They’ve not downed tools. Fitness wise they’re the same as the others. is Apter behind because he only had half of the week in Slovenia. if they’re behind, it will be in the understanding of how our old squad played and the old squad’s understanding of how they play.. Powell managed a similar transition perfectly well.
Both had moves in the offing and withdrew themselves from certain days training to talk to prospective clubs and certainly in Knibbs case from a friendly. I also doubt they were giving the pre season 100% because even a slight injury could jeopardise their move. They won’t be far behind but behind nonetheless.
With discussions on here about the 11 starting against Watford we should remember that some of the players that joined later on have missed some of pre season and will be slightly behind both on fitness and learning the system. I think Kelman and Knibbs will be on the bench for Watford. They will likely be in our best 11 but they are unlikely to be starting against Watford.
How are Kelman and Knibbs behind on fitness. They’ve been in full training.
They’ve not downed tools. Fitness wise they’re the same as the others. is Apter behind because he only had half of the week in Slovenia. if they’re behind, it will be in the understanding of how our old squad played and the old squad’s understanding of how they play.. Powell managed a similar transition perfectly well.
Think it’s pretty clear we are 2/3 weeks behind and playing catch up hence the niggles and small injuries we picked up .. also normally last night the first eleven would have played 75 mins but we can’t fit in the number of games that we would have liked .. … play off win was great but !!!
Interesting that we weren’t undercooked after our last two playoff wins . We’ve also done our business early.
Exactly, in recent seasons we haven't even got half the first team in the building by now never mind about playing them for 75 mins in the last friendly.
With discussions on here about the 11 starting against Watford we should remember that some of the players that joined later on have missed some of pre season and will be slightly behind both on fitness and learning the system. I think Kelman and Knibbs will be on the bench for Watford. They will likely be in our best 11 but they are unlikely to be starting against Watford.
How are Kelman and Knibbs behind on fitness. They’ve been in full training.
They’ve not downed tools. Fitness wise they’re the same as the others. is Apter behind because he only had half of the week in Slovenia. if they’re behind, it will be in the understanding of how our old squad played and the old squad’s understanding of how they play.. Powell managed a similar transition perfectly well.
Both had moves in the offing and withdrew themselves from certain days training to talk to prospective clubs and certainly in Knibbs case from a friendly. I also doubt they were giving the pre season 100% because even a slight injury could jeopardise their move. They won’t be far behind but behind nonetheless.
Pretty sure Knibbs came into the close season with a minor injury
With discussions on here about the 11 starting against Watford we should remember that some of the players that joined later on have missed some of pre season and will be slightly behind both on fitness and learning the system. I think Kelman and Knibbs will be on the bench for Watford. They will likely be in our best 11 but they are unlikely to be starting against Watford.
How are Kelman and Knibbs behind on fitness. They’ve been in full training.
They’ve not downed tools. Fitness wise they’re the same as the others. is Apter behind because he only had half of the week in Slovenia. if they’re behind, it will be in the understanding of how our old squad played and the old squad’s understanding of how they play.. Powell managed a similar transition perfectly well.
With discussions on here about the 11 starting against Watford we should remember that some of the players that joined later on have missed some of pre season and will be slightly behind both on fitness and learning the system. I think Kelman and Knibbs will be on the bench for Watford. They will likely be in our best 11 but they are unlikely to be starting against Watford.
How are Kelman and Knibbs behind on fitness. They’ve been in full training.
They’ve not downed tools. Fitness wise they’re the same as the others. is Apter behind because he only had half of the week in Slovenia. if they’re behind, it will be in the understanding of how our old squad played and the old squad’s understanding of how they play.. Powell managed a similar transition perfectly well.
With discussions on here about the 11 starting against Watford we should remember that some of the players that joined later on have missed some of pre season and will be slightly behind both on fitness and learning the system. I think Kelman and Knibbs will be on the bench for Watford. They will likely be in our best 11 but they are unlikely to be starting against Watford.
How are Kelman and Knibbs behind on fitness. They’ve been in full training.
They’ve not downed tools. Fitness wise they’re the same as the others. is Apter behind because he only had half of the week in Slovenia. if they’re behind, it will be in the understanding of how our old squad played and the old squad’s understanding of how they play.. Powell managed a similar transition perfectly well.
It's about minutes. They've both missed games and minutes in pre season for their clubs before we bought them because they were expected to move. They've therefore had much less minutes than the rest of our squad.
Fitness is a science and numbers game. There has been talk of our whole squad being behind because of the playoffs meaning our pre season started a week late.
Then throw in knowing the system and their teammates which they haven't had time to build those on the pitch relationships.
A lot will come down to their individual bodies. Remember when Cullen missed 3 months for a dislocated shoulder and came back and played 90 mins twice a week immediately. Bow said it was because his body was a bit of a freak of fitness. Maybe one of them are like that. But I think chances of them both starting against Watford are pretty minimal.
Just wondering, would Nathan have been at Brighton the same season they had Joe Bennett on loan?
Looks like Nathan Jones was even briefly Caretaker Manager (Dec-Feb) at Brighton in 2014, the season Bennett was on loan there. He then went back to being First Team Coach
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Now the great and the good are leaving him out of their suggested matchday squads altogether and no-one is protesting.
I fear he may be difficult to shift because he is paid too well.
These friendly matches are all about fitness and avoiding injury
write him off last season ….. so there will
no change this season Berry will be a match winner again ….
They’ve been in full training.
is Apter behind because he only had half of the week in Slovenia.
if they’re behind, it will be in the understanding of how our old squad played and the old squad’s understanding of how they play..
Powell managed a similar transition perfectly well.
This is about players understanding each others game and fitness. Albeit we didn’t start the strongest side.
Keep Watford guessing is probably the idea.
We aren’t putting our strongest 11 out v Southend either.
Very strange pre season because we have signed so many players.
I am guessing no more than 200 mins total in League matches.
Lets just try and enjoy the ride, if we have a slow start to the season, lose the first 5 on the bounce, or go on a bad run, rather than moaning and sniping from the sides, we’re all going to have to suck it up and get behind the club even more, they are going to need our support more than ever, who knows how long the feel good party is going to last.
Fitness is a science and numbers game. There has been talk of our whole squad being behind because of the playoffs meaning our pre season started a week late.
Then throw in knowing the system and their teammates which they haven't had time to build those on the pitch relationships.
A lot will come down to their individual bodies. Remember when Cullen missed 3 months for a dislocated shoulder and came back and played 90 mins twice a week immediately. Bow said it was because his body was a bit of a freak of fitness. Maybe one of them are like that. But I think chances of them both starting against Watford are pretty minimal.