Speeding ticket advice

Arsenetatters

paulsturgess said:

Fortune 82nd Minute said:

Starinnaddick said:

My wife had to go on a speed awareness course after clocking 22mph on Eynsford Drive Abbey Wood. 

As someone who has spent his working life in the transport sector, I know the dangers that speeding can cause.

But this is just absolutely absurd.

Was she done by a mobile van or a fixed camera?

I remember when I did my driving test (admittedly 22 years ago), my instructor always said "no 25s no 35s" - as in, in a 30 zone, if you dropped unnecessarily to 25 or went up to 35, you'd get a "minor" mark against you in your test. That was a minor, not even a "major" - i.e. not an automatic fail.

to be done for 22, or 33mph in a 30, seems incredibly harsh. Again, from an attention to the road scenario, if you don't have a speed limiter on your car, you almost have to pay more attention to looking at the speedo to ensure you don't unknowingly tip over the limit Vs focussing on the road in front of you... 

My old van doesn't have a speed limiter so I do keep looking at the speedo (which I assume is slightly under reading from when I pass the things that tell you how fast you are doing). Is it possible to have a speed limiter fitted?
EDIT - it slightly over reads not under reads

swordfish

Arsenetatters said:

paulsturgess said:

Fortune 82nd Minute said:

Starinnaddick said:

My wife had to go on a speed awareness course after clocking 22mph on Eynsford Drive Abbey Wood. 

As someone who has spent his working life in the transport sector, I know the dangers that speeding can cause.

But this is just absolutely absurd.

Was she done by a mobile van or a fixed camera?

I remember when I did my driving test (admittedly 22 years ago), my instructor always said "no 25s no 35s" - as in, in a 30 zone, if you dropped unnecessarily to 25 or went up to 35, you'd get a "minor" mark against you in your test. That was a minor, not even a "major" - i.e. not an automatic fail.

to be done for 22, or 33mph in a 30, seems incredibly harsh. Again, from an attention to the road scenario, if you don't have a speed limiter on your car, you almost have to pay more attention to looking at the speedo to ensure you don't unknowingly tip over the limit Vs focussing on the road in front of you... 

My old van doesn't have a speed limiter so I do keep looking at the speedo (which I assume is slightly under reading from when I pass the things that tell you how fast you are doing). Is it possible to have a speed limiter fitted?

In 2025, technology ought to be available to code in 'drive within speed limits' for those who want it, GPS picking up real time data on limits in operation. What demand for it there would be, well now that's another question entirely, but if my car had that option, I'd activate it.

cafcfan

Arsenetatters said:

paulsturgess said:

Fortune 82nd Minute said:

Starinnaddick said:

My wife had to go on a speed awareness course after clocking 22mph on Eynsford Drive Abbey Wood. 

As someone who has spent his working life in the transport sector, I know the dangers that speeding can cause.

But this is just absolutely absurd.

Was she done by a mobile van or a fixed camera?

I remember when I did my driving test (admittedly 22 years ago), my instructor always said "no 25s no 35s" - as in, in a 30 zone, if you dropped unnecessarily to 25 or went up to 35, you'd get a "minor" mark against you in your test. That was a minor, not even a "major" - i.e. not an automatic fail.

to be done for 22, or 33mph in a 30, seems incredibly harsh. Again, from an attention to the road scenario, if you don't have a speed limiter on your car, you almost have to pay more attention to looking at the speedo to ensure you don't unknowingly tip over the limit Vs focussing on the road in front of you... 

My old van doesn't have a speed limiter so I do keep looking at the speedo (which I assume is slightly under reading from when I pass the things that tell you how fast you are doing). Is it possible to have a speed limiter fitted?

It is illegal for a speedo to underread. Which is why they all show a higher speed than you are actually travelling at. This to prevent law suits against the manufacturers. Of course, as your tyres wear out and the circumference becomes less, they overread even more.

In short: a speedo must never show less than the actual speed, and must never show more than 110% of actual speed + 6.25mph. So if your true speed is 40mph, your speedo could legally be reading up to 50.25mph but never less than 40mph.

My speedo is pretty much accurate; some manufacturers are worse than others. Nissan Micra speedos are notoriously inaccurate and overread badly. This may be why Micras are always being overtaken by everyone else. (I bet their drivers think we are all nutters.)

So, you don't need a speed limiter.

hoof_it_up_to_benty

I've never understood why the speed limit varies between 40 and 50 on the A12 outside the Blackwall Tunnel going northwards? Can't see any logic to it but hopefully it generates a decent amount of revenue in fines.

I've seen plenty of lunatics weaving in and out of traffic at high speed on this stretch of road but no traffic police ever seem to pick this up. I imagine the lunatic drivers know where the cameras are.

Arsenetatters

cafcfan said:

Arsenetatters said:

paulsturgess said:

Fortune 82nd Minute said:

Starinnaddick said:

My wife had to go on a speed awareness course after clocking 22mph on Eynsford Drive Abbey Wood. 

As someone who has spent his working life in the transport sector, I know the dangers that speeding can cause.

But this is just absolutely absurd.

Was she done by a mobile van or a fixed camera?

I remember when I did my driving test (admittedly 22 years ago), my instructor always said "no 25s no 35s" - as in, in a 30 zone, if you dropped unnecessarily to 25 or went up to 35, you'd get a "minor" mark against you in your test. That was a minor, not even a "major" - i.e. not an automatic fail.

to be done for 22, or 33mph in a 30, seems incredibly harsh. Again, from an attention to the road scenario, if you don't have a speed limiter on your car, you almost have to pay more attention to looking at the speedo to ensure you don't unknowingly tip over the limit Vs focussing on the road in front of you... 

My old van doesn't have a speed limiter so I do keep looking at the speedo (which I assume is slightly under reading from when I pass the things that tell you how fast you are doing). Is it possible to have a speed limiter fitted?

It is illegal for a speedo to underread. Which is why they all show a higher speed than you are actually travelling at. This to prevent law suits against the manufacturers. Of course, as your tyres wear out and the circumference becomes less, they overread even more.

In short: a speedo must never show less than the actual speed, and must never show more than 110% of actual speed + 6.25mph. So if your true speed is 40mph, your speedo could legally be reading up to 50.25mph but never less than 40mph.

My speedo is pretty much accurate; some manufacturers are worse than others. Nissan Micra speedos are notoriously inaccurate and overread badly. This may be why Micras are always being overtaken by everyone else. (I bet their drivers think we are all nutters.)

So, you don't need a speed limiter.

Apologies- I got it the wrong way round. It over reads.

Crusty54

swordfish said:

Arsenetatters said:

paulsturgess said:

Fortune 82nd Minute said:

Starinnaddick said:

My wife had to go on a speed awareness course after clocking 22mph on Eynsford Drive Abbey Wood. 

As someone who has spent his working life in the transport sector, I know the dangers that speeding can cause.

But this is just absolutely absurd.

Was she done by a mobile van or a fixed camera?

I remember when I did my driving test (admittedly 22 years ago), my instructor always said "no 25s no 35s" - as in, in a 30 zone, if you dropped unnecessarily to 25 or went up to 35, you'd get a "minor" mark against you in your test. That was a minor, not even a "major" - i.e. not an automatic fail.

to be done for 22, or 33mph in a 30, seems incredibly harsh. Again, from an attention to the road scenario, if you don't have a speed limiter on your car, you almost have to pay more attention to looking at the speedo to ensure you don't unknowingly tip over the limit Vs focussing on the road in front of you... 

My old van doesn't have a speed limiter so I do keep looking at the speedo (which I assume is slightly under reading from when I pass the things that tell you how fast you are doing). Is it possible to have a speed limiter fitted?

In 2025, technology ought to be available to code in 'drive within speed limits' for those who want it, GPS picking up real time data on limits in operation. What demand for it there would be, well now that's another question entirely, but if my car had that option, I'd activate it.

Many buses in London are now using the technology you suggest.

hoof_it_up_to_benty

Pretty sure lorries have speed limiters in place - I think their speedos are more accurate than those in cars..