For us to win tomorrow it hinges on our wide players … Campbell been way off the boil over the last 4/5 weeks needs to show up cause he can be our match winner and Small for all his good work , pace etc his final ball needs to be more consistent for the amount of good positions he finds himself in .. think the rest of the team are better then Orient …… 2-1 to the reds
Really concerned about this one. I think they have a bit more about them than we do going forward and i hope we can defend as we have done in recent months. Some Charlton fans i have spoken too think this a formality just turn up and win.
We have to get out of this league as it is only going to get tougher in my view. Then if we do its up to our board to make sure we stay there.
Just dont fancy anymore trips to Exeter, Doncaster and all with respect to them.
Based on the last few pages of this thread it would be good to get a chant of ‘Seems like there’s two John Humphreys’ going.
There is , the ex player and the ex bookie (who may have been a director at one point, he deffo sat in the directors box but that may have been through sponsorship or lounge access) he seemed a nice fella to unless you caught him on a bad day in the grocers.
I still think it’s going to be frantic, rather than tight. Think Orient will go for it & try and outscore us. They looked decent when attacking & trying to get back into the game at Stockport. But vulnerable when sitting back. For a one off do or die match, reckon they’ll just try and go all out, as know they’ll struggle trying to battle it out against us.
Has the team been to Wembley yet, seem to recall seeing orient putting a clip up the last day or so where their team had gone to Wembley this week to look about
not much from us, this deliberate from Nathan
Another failure by the comms team to create a connection with the fans and build excitement for the day by filming the team at Wembley.
Have you watched the excellent 90-minute Charlton TV preview?
I’m sure they will come out and try to catch us cold I hope we weather the first 10 minutes. We all know we can win this but so much depends on if our wide players turn up.
With VAR in action the best bet of the day imo is that there will be at least 1 penalty as league one defenders at corners don’t mix well with VAR lol I hope it goes our way to keep the bus rolling into the championship COYRS
Has the team been to Wembley yet, seem to recall seeing orient putting a clip up the last day or so where their team had gone to Wembley this week to look about
not much from us, this deliberate from Nathan
Another failure by the comms team to create a connection with the fans and build excitement for the day by filming the team at Wembley.
Have you watched the excellent 90-minute Charlton TV preview?
Yes, and it’s mostly good (if not a bit long). There are multiple ways to engage and build excitement and it really seems Charlton are not investing time and money on the day either (Leytons fan zone will look much better than ours, with decent investment made by their club).
Lots of great things being done by the Charlton community this week which could have been capitalised on to build the narrative and create a connection with minimal effort.
I've had a bad feeling about the play offs for a while, although I can't bring myself to predict a loss. I think this will be a tougher game than Sunderland in 2019. Hope we turn up and make it another day to remember for all the right reasons.
Going to post something similar to this tomorrow (a guess who game on Charlton players) but I'm switching it up a bit.
If anyone wants to watch something Charlton related, I asked 11 different Charlton groups/individuals to help build an all-time Charlton fantasy XI, thoughts?
That bloke on Taylor is old enough to have seen Mendonca, Hunt, Bent, Di Canio.
Whatever you think of Parker, he’s number one in midfield. I can’t deal with the Song and Coquelin picks.
Probably could have done with asking some older fans too.
I see your point mate, but, this was 11 random groups, so I was always expecting random results.
I think the bloke who selected Taylor, may be a fairly new supporter as he said "my best experiences" not speaking on behalf of the club.
Coquelin and Song I got in suppose cause of what they did after their short loans at Charlton.
I'll ask some older folks next time, but there was a few there.
I've done my fantasy XI on a Charlton podcast before, based on a mix of what I've seen and heard, and here's what mine looked like:
That team is horrible.
Mark Fish instead of Rufus
Kish instead of Kinsella
Lookman instead of Lee
No Costa No Simonsen No Hales.
I could go on.
Sir John Humphrey instead of Luke Young.
Great player was Humphrey.
But he's the only Charlton player I've ever met that I didn't like. Tried to talk down to me like he was a school teacher. Which is what he was.
Thought he was a prick In fairness that's what he probably thought of me.
My experience of talking to John Humphrey was the polar opposite to you; from London Bridge to Charlton on the train which is a great setting for any cafc fan to engage and chat about his Charlton career and his post football career as a teacher. Nice guy.
Last time we played Orient, we pretty much bossed the game, and only went behind due to a wonder strike
Not saying that the same will happen again, but on that basis, to say we'll make it a bad game is potentially wide of the mark - I equally agree we may make it a bad game, as lose, and you lose everything... There are no second chances after tomorrow.
A lot of pundits seem to be predicting that the game will be poor due to our style of play ! I really think the opposite will happen. Yes we have had some poor games in terms of entertainment but I think that has been down to the opposition more than us ala Wycombe ! They set up to stop us Orient won’t do that as they know that’s not their game, they will come to play which mean we will also and I think it will be a good game
I saw John Humphrey at a grocery store in charlton a few years back. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything. He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?” I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying. The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter. When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical interference” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.
If the nightmare scenario of defeat happens hope we are as respectful as Sunderland fans were when we turned them over in the play off finals .
I agree about the last final where the Sunderland fans that were still around after we finally left the stadium were decent folk considering how gutted they were but interesting to hear Steve Brown say on the excellent Wembley preview from Wembley that in the Mendonca final Sunderland fans surrounded the coach and were banging and spitting before the game as the coach was near the stadium. Also that final I travelled up with a dozen family members from the Victoria pub in Canterbury on the Charlton coach and one disgruntled Sunderland fan threw a bottle that cracked the back window of the coach. The driver made the decision not to stop and report it straight away and wait around for an hour or two to get back to Kent.
Considering how many Sunderland fans were at that final where they definitely had more fans, the vast majority were fine but gutted after the game.
The last meeting at Wembley, I didn't notice any Sunderland fans in our end unlike the game last century when they had hundreds all together in the Cafc end that the Charlton fans complained about that were sitting around them.
Going to post something similar to this tomorrow (a guess who game on Charlton players) but I'm switching it up a bit.
If anyone wants to watch something Charlton related, I asked 11 different Charlton groups/individuals to help build an all-time Charlton fantasy XI, thoughts?
That bloke on Taylor is old enough to have seen Mendonca, Hunt, Bent, Di Canio.
Whatever you think of Parker, he’s number one in midfield. I can’t deal with the Song and Coquelin picks.
Probably could have done with asking some older fans too.
I see your point mate, but, this was 11 random groups, so I was always expecting random results.
I think the bloke who selected Taylor, may be a fairly new supporter as he said "my best experiences" not speaking on behalf of the club.
Coquelin and Song I got in suppose cause of what they did after their short loans at Charlton.
I'll ask some older folks next time, but there was a few there.
I've done my fantasy XI on a Charlton podcast before, based on a mix of what I've seen and heard, and here's what mine looked like:
That team is horrible.
Mark Fish instead of Rufus
Kish instead of Kinsella
Lookman instead of Lee
No Costa No Simonsen No Hales.
I could go on.
Sir John Humphrey instead of Luke Young.
Great player was Humphrey.
But he's the only Charlton player I've ever met that I didn't like. Tried to talk down to me like he was a school teacher. Which is what he was.
Thought he was a prick In fairness that's what he probably thought of me.
My experience of talking to John Humphrey was the polar opposite to you; from London Bridge to Charlton on the train which is a great setting for any cafc fan to engage and chat about his Charlton career and his post football career as a teacher. Nice guy.
I've recounted this tale on here before but my encounter of John Humphrey (other than saying "hello" as he wandered through Crossbars pre-match with the likes of Colin Walsh, Theo Foley and Brian Kinsey - yes, that's how long it's been since we went in there regularly!) was at the end of the 2008-09 season.
We were playing Cardiff at The Valley on a Tuesday night (I can't remember if our relegation to Division Three had been confirmed by that point) and I was in the club shop. When I got to the till JH was in front of me holding a replica shirt.
I said "I hope you've got some boots as well because this team needs plenty more players like you in it."
His response was along the lines of "You don't need to worry about me, keep an eye on a young lad in the Academy who will be better than I ever was. His name's Chris Solly."
The conversation was only a couple of minutes long but he seemed nice enough.
11th time they’ve been Wembley not sure how many in recent years but they still bring monster numbers imagine us trekking to Newcastle for a final for the 11th time … 20-25k prolly we’ve never travelled well that far 😉
If the nightmare scenario of defeat happens hope we are as respectful as Sunderland fans were when we turned them over in the play off finals .
I agree about the last final where the Sunderland fans that were still around after we finally left the stadium were decent folk considering how gutted they were but interesting to hear Steve Brown say on the excellent Wembley preview from Wembley that in the Mendonca final Sunderland fans surrounded the coach and were banging and spitting before the game as the coach was near the stadium. Also that final I travelled up with a dozen family members from the Victoria pub in Canterbury on the Charlton coach and one disgruntled Sunderland fan threw a bottle that cracked the back window of the coach. The driver made the decision not to stop and report it straight away and wait around for an hour or two to get back to Kent.
Considering how many Sunderland fans were at that final where they definitely had more fans, the vast majority were fine but gutted after the game.
The last meeting at Wembley, I didn't notice any Sunderland fans in our end unlike the game last century when they had hundreds all together in the Cafc end that the Charlton fans complained about that were sitting around them.
In 2019 We had to leave Wembley at the final whistle as I had to drive directly to eurotunnel and then France for a delayed holiday.
We were parked in North Greenwich and on the jubilee line full of Sunderland fans. None of the Sunderland fans believed they were going to win and expected what happened. They were kind and generous to myself and my young sons (they gave us a red / white scarf and a programme as they did not want the bad memories).
Sunderland at that time were where we are now. Years of poor ownership and they had been beaten down and demoralised. It took a few more years and now they are flying.
This could easily be us again in a few years, sleeping giant awakened if the senior management team take note and use this to propel the fan base forward.
Only thing I'm properly worried about this season is the build up is very much geared up for us to have egg on our faces. The preview show being at Wembley, all the messages from ex players being shared on social media, it's all great content if we go and win, but there's a small chance it makes us look like absolute idiots come 3pm Sunday
Had an utter shit start to the weekend and all this bollocks from YouTubers, tiknoncers, bloggers, journos and pundits who haven't seen a single league one game this season because they're too busy wanking over the prem and champions league from their home studio bedrooms, talking about us as if we're the football antichrist is pissing me off more than should.
Had an utter shit start to the weekend and all this bollocks from YouTubers, tiknoncers, bloggers, journos and pundits who haven't seen a single league one game this season because they're too busy wanking over the prem and champions league from their home studio bedrooms, talking about us as if we're the football antichrist is pissing me off more than should.
Don't forget, for the majority of pundits and experts the Third Division consisted of Wrexham and Birmingham; they paid little to no attention to anyone else.
It’s well known Orient struggle with set pieces and they use WWE tactics to try and nullify them. With VAR they won’t be able to. This is key, corners, free kicks in and around the box are massive. TC and Small can cause havoc running at them from wide.
Sadly, I don't think this is the case. You only have to watch MOTD to see that VAR does nothing to prevent the All in Wrestling antics that are evident at every corner, as well as the holding, grappling and strangling that often goes on in open play. Our players are well versed in the darker arts of the game, our defence particularly so. As you move up through the team, those same arts are more nuanced and creative, culminating in the Grand Manner that is Godden.
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We have to get out of this league as it is only going to get tougher in my view. Then if we do its up to our board to make sure we stay there.
Just dont fancy anymore trips to Exeter, Doncaster and all with respect to them.
One said we are going to make it a bad game. I couldn't give two hoots what the outsiders think, as long as we win promotion.
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We have had some fantastic performances this season and I wouldn't put it past the lads to pull another one out of the hat tomorrow.
My experience of talking to John Humphrey was the polar opposite to you; from London Bridge to Charlton on the train which is a great setting for any cafc fan to engage and chat about his Charlton career and his post football career as a teacher.
Nice guy.
Not saying that the same will happen again, but on that basis, to say we'll make it a bad game is potentially wide of the mark - I equally agree we may make it a bad game, as lose, and you lose everything... There are no second chances after tomorrow.
Where did the "I met [Celebrity] in a grocery store" copypasta come from? : r/OutOfTheLoop
I agree about the last final where the Sunderland fans that were still around after we finally left the stadium were decent folk considering how gutted they were but interesting to hear Steve Brown say on the excellent Wembley preview from Wembley that in the Mendonca final Sunderland fans surrounded the coach and were banging and spitting before the game as the coach was near the stadium.
Also that final I travelled up with a dozen family members from the Victoria pub in Canterbury on the Charlton coach and one disgruntled Sunderland fan threw a bottle that cracked the back window of the coach. The driver made the decision not to stop and report it straight away and wait around for an hour or two to get back to Kent.
Considering how many Sunderland fans were at that final where they definitely had more fans, the vast majority were fine but gutted after the game.
The last meeting at Wembley, I didn't notice any Sunderland fans in our end unlike the game last century when they had hundreds all together in the Cafc end that the Charlton fans complained about that were sitting around them.
We were playing Cardiff at The Valley on a Tuesday night (I can't remember if our relegation to Division Three had been confirmed by that point) and I was in the club shop. When I got to the till JH was in front of me holding a replica shirt.
I said "I hope you've got some boots as well because this team needs plenty more players like you in it."
His response was along the lines of "You don't need to worry about me, keep an eye on a young lad in the Academy who will be better than I ever was. His name's Chris Solly."
The conversation was only a couple of minutes long but he seemed nice enough.
imagine us trekking to Newcastle for a final for the 11th time … 20-25k prolly we’ve never travelled well that far 😉
You only have to watch MOTD to see that VAR does nothing to prevent the All in Wrestling antics that are evident at every corner, as well as the holding, grappling and strangling that often goes on in open play.
Our players are well versed in the darker arts of the game, our defence particularly so. As you move up through the team, those same arts are more nuanced and creative, culminating in the Grand Manner that is Godden.