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Let's not forget the legend that is Richard Murray

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  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 29,017
    Like what? Abramovich and the shakes at Man City, to name just 2, might disagree
    Strawberry or chocolate?
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,272
    Interesting stuff. Couldn't have delivered. Why? Is that a fact or opinion?
    Roger Alwen didn't have the money to put in or the necessary skills to untangle the mess left behind when Mike Norris went bust. Martin Simons guaranteed the loan that enabled the club to get the ground back from the bank and Richard Murray - assisted by Peter Tegg - did the necessary deals.

    Is Peter Tegg related to Ben Tegg ? Does this mean he helped financially ?
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,271
    Oohaah

    I am not sure of his exact history but Richard M's family background is not deeply rooted in one particular area. I seem to remember him telling me that it is partly Polish. So it's not as if he was born and bred Wolves, in the same way as I am born and bred Charlton. He was living in London for years before he got involved with us. Sometimes something triggers a spark and you are hooked. I don't think he 'transferred' his allegiance from Wolves. Rather that he was unattached and still looking for his true love...

    Also if you had ever been near him during or after a game, you'd be in no doubt. He's a fan, and a loud one at that.
  • BlackForestReds
    BlackForestReds Posts: 17,952
    How did Murrays love for the club originate?

    I''ve a feeling he was introduced to the club by a couple of business friends to help out and sort of stayed. Exactly who I'm not sure.
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 29,017
    I might be wrong, but I seem to recall that "Richard Murray" isn't actually his real - or at least not his full - name. Am I just making that up or does someone else know?
  • Six-a-bag-of-nuts
    Six-a-bag-of-nuts Posts: 8,156
    How did Murrays love for the club originate?
    What makes a wolves ?? fan decide to invest so much time, money and energy into Charlton (lucky for us)
    no disrespect but there are a gazillion and one better causes, imo, to be burning your time, money and energy on than at a poxy footy club you have no affinity too
    Why not ask him - you've had 20 years? ;-)
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,271
    Off_it, I think you are right, and it is connected to his Polish family history. Airman might remember better. He certainly mentioned something like that to me and it wasn't in any particularly confidential way.
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 29,017
    Some sort of double-barrelled name?
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,271
    Not sure. But a lot of immigrants from Eastern Europe in the 19th-20th century changed their names in order to 'fit in". But Richard himself may have been born here, I can't remember for sure.
  • WasCharleyOne
    WasCharleyOne Posts: 523
    Agree with the sentiments of this thread.

    Just a shame that some of the more "erratic" members of our support couldn't see it and resorted to personal abuse. Fcuking idiots. They know who they are.
    This! Nice one Off-It.  The majority of which inhabit another forum...

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  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,479
    Obodynski was the name
  • GlassHalfFull
    GlassHalfFull Posts: 2,351

    There is reference to RM's "other" name as a footnote in at least one of the early annual reports.

    One of the special sights of the'98 POF was a rapturous RM applauding as Mark Kinsella received the trophy, and looking ready to explode with happiness and pride. Yep, that man's a fan alright !!

    This thread is mercifully not an obituary for the great man so not everyone will be complimentary in their remarks, but some of the sour comments do little justice to the astonishing achievements of the club on Richard Murray's watch. And as said many a time, a thoroughly decent guy.

     

  • MickCollins
    MickCollins Posts: 67

    I remember walking across the West Stand car park with Richard, on the 15th May, 2004. It was the day we beat Southampton and finished 7th in the Premier League.

     

    It was also only our second win in ten games, and the end of a season which had seen us claim ten points from a possible thirty, and lose out on a European place in the process. There was a bit of shouting and chanting, a few fans moaning about the way the season had "tailed off" and a generally weird atmosphere. We'd finished 7th and quite a lot of people weren't happy, or so it seemed.

     

    "They don't realise, do they?" he asked me. "They don't realise just what we've done. How impossible it should be to do what we've done, on that budget. They don't realise it'll never be this good again."

     

    If I paraphrase, it's only slight and only down to the passage of time, dulling the memory. The last sentence I remember perfectly, though. He knew the way the game was going, the oligarchs and sheikhs, millionaires being chased out by billionaires. And he was right.

     

    Richard and his board did a huge amount for this club - saved it and caused it to grow. Latterly they made some mistakes and, as I've said before, they showed that top flight football is like cimbing an ice wall - a million careful steps up, but one slip and you're back at the bottom before you know it. But they put their money where their collective mouths were, and they did so openly and honestly. And, as he said, there will always be some people who don't realise just how far above our weight we were punching.

  • Bexley Dan
    Bexley Dan Posts: 3,658
    Like what? Abramovich and the shakes at Man City, to name just 2, might disagree
    Strawberry or chocolate?
    depends how long they've been out in the sun
  • Bexley Dan
    Bexley Dan Posts: 3,658
    Off_it, I think you are right, and it is connected to his Polish family history. Airman might remember better. He certainly mentioned something like that to me and it wasn't in any particularly confidential way.
    A few call him Muzza. Probably Dick Muzza, changed to Richard Murray to add credibility. Acceptable in the black country but...
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,271
    great post, Mick.
  • Bexley Dan
    Bexley Dan Posts: 3,658

    We were the poor relation in south london by the time RM got involved. It is now accepted that we are a bigger club than both Millwall and Palace even though we are in a league lower. That says it all for me and is certainly good enough for me. I doubt we will ever break into the accepted big 4 in London but i now see us as the 5th biggest club in London and we expect a team that is commensurate with that status. By the late 80's we were probably nearer 9th in status in London and didn't expect much at all really, despite being in the top flight. 

  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,676
    I think Mick Collins post should be compulsory reading for every Charlton fan.
  • bingaddick
    bingaddick Posts: 8,184
    I think Mick Collins post should be compulsory reading for every Charlton fan.
    Hear hear!
  • Fanny Fanackapan
    Fanny Fanackapan Posts: 18,812
    I think Mick Collins post should be compulsory reading for every Charlton fan.

    |Well said !

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  • CrayAddick
    CrayAddick Posts: 3,915
    How did Murrays love for the club originate?
    What makes a wolves ?? fan decide to invest so much time, money and energy into Charlton (lucky for us)
    no disrespect but there are a gazillion and one better causes, imo, to be burning your time, money and energy on than at a poxy footy club you have no affinity too
    This makes no sense.
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,373
    edited December 2011
    cray would you invest in birmingham , hypotheically speaking , if you were in a good financial position
  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,719
    edited December 2011
    I think it was Enoch Powell who famously said all political careers end in failure.

    The same can arguably be applied to football managers and chairman.

    Richard Murray made mistakes in the decisions around the departure and replacement of Llewellyn The Great but he had the courage to appoint the great man in the first place whilst supporting him and developing a ground fit for Premiership football at the same time.

    I started supporting Charlton in the early sixties and never thought I'd see top tier football at The Valley. Richard Murray and Alan Curbishley in whatever order you wish to place them made that dream come true for 8 seasons. 

    I doubt Charlton will reach the Premiership again in my lifetime but for those 8 seasons at The Valley, watching at the same ground my beloved deceased forefathers had also watched, I thank them from the bottom of my heart.
  • Kap10
    Kap10 Posts: 15,640
    Rickardskivosky Muurresymintsky maybe?

    How old are you Len, I see a return to the Premiership as a distinct possibility in the next five to ten years and others will point to Norwich and of course oif there is a Prem breakaway of the top clubs it maybe even sooner.  That said I think most of us will enjoying life more in the Championship
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,676
    "This is the voice of the Mysterons "
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,969
    Blimey. How times have changed....
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,949
    been a hell of a lot of water under the bridge since 2011
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,888
    Reading this thread from the beginning and it feels surreal. 
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 58,150
    Was quite surprised to find I’d withheld from commenting on this thread at the time. Just nervously scrolled through it fearing the worst!
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,859
    “Hi Iain; it’s Richard Murray”.

    Downhill ever since . 

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