The shootings in France
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Having seen a website that gave specific information about this matter shut down this afternoon, I don't think that it's a good idea for too many theories to be aired here.0
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Good point. Which site was that?PaulCAFC said:Having seen a website that gave specific information about this matter shut down this afternoon, I don't think that it's a good idea for too many theories to be aired here.
Have to bear in mind that others were shot who it seems were unconnected to the occupants of the car.
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I lived in Claygate for a few years until recently but moved to Cobham so I could be closer to Scott Parker (and Ray Wilkins)0
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I don't think Jack Bauer & CTU are going to crash through the door of anyone from here for a few pie in the sky theories/thinking out loud.PaulCAFC said:Having seen a website that gave specific information about this matter shut down this afternoon, I don't think that it's a good idea for too many theories to be aired here.
Bit different if it turns out that Nolly is actually a Mossad agent and reveals all. That may see the site in trouble.0 -
More likely an estate agent.Sparrows Lane Lion said:
IPaulCAFC said:Having seen a website that gave specific information about this matter shut down this afternoon, I don't think that it's a good idea for too many theories to be aired here.
Bit different if it turns out that Nolly is actually a Mossad agent and reveals all. That may see the site in trouble.0 -
Bit of an odd one this...I mean in one aspect it's clearly the work of ruthless, high end, professional killers. Multiple clean headshots through glass suggest a team of skilled assassins as opposed to a single gunman....but then very amateurish `tidying up' by failing to silence one daughter and to even detect the other one.
These such squads aim to get rid of everyone for the obvious reasons of possible future identification but if family members of the intended target can also be hit in the process then all the better cos this is seen as a further warning to their enemies.0 -
What shocked me most, strangely enough, was not the killing / execution, but that whoever did it would brutally beat up a child before shooting her.
How the hell do the police get a catatonic 4 year old give them any useful information.0 -
Today the the victim's house is crawling with the press, and the Police are searching the house. Looks like they suspect something other than a robbery gone wrong.0
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Mention at the moment that there was a big argument between the father and his brother over inheritance money, which the Police are investigating.0
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Police have been reported as saying brother has made himself known to UK police & police have emphasised that this is just a line of inquiry. We need to be careful before we condemn the brother.0
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My thoughts exactly.Draizetrain said:Bit of an odd one this...I mean in one aspect it's clearly the work of ruthless, high end, professional killers. Multiple clean headshots through glass suggest a team of skilled assassins as opposed to a single gunman....but then very amateurish `tidying up' by failing to silence one daughter and to even detect the other one.
These such squads aim to get rid of everyone for the obvious reasons of possible future identification but if family members of the intended target can also be hit in the process then all the better cos this is seen as a further warning to their enemies.
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Found a possible IED in the house/garden0
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Bomb disposal experts on the scene now...0
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You have to ask why this would have happened to strangers- being in the wrong place at the wrong time. It just doesn't make sense to me- the sort of thing that the family could have inadvertantly interupted wouldn't happen in a clearly public place when you would have thought there would have been many alternatives. Whoever did it, knew their target and got in and out at speed- hence there being survivors. The poor cyclist would have happened to stumble on the scene. Not sure the child survivors will be helpful though, but looking for the motive will probably point out the evil person behind it.0
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Yes, the surrounding area has been evacuated.SE10 said:Found a possible IED in the house/garden
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Out of interest where do you hear/read that the head shots were carried out through the glass?Draizetrain said:Bit of an odd one this...I mean in one aspect it's clearly the work of ruthless, high end, professional killers. Multiple clean headshots through glass suggest a team of skilled assassins as opposed to a single gunman....but then very amateurish `tidying up' by failing to silence one daughter and to even detect the other one.
These such squads aim to get rid of everyone for the obvious reasons of possible future identification but if family members of the intended target can also be hit in the process then all the better cos this is seen as a further warning to their enemies.0 -
The Times reported that the doomed driver of the car made a great effort to escape from the scene, tyre tracks, skid marks, earth thrown up indicates this .. the driver was halted in his/her efforts by being shot through the windscreen, hence the large number of shell cases recovered but bullets were not found in the bodies of the dead.eaststandmike said:
Out of interest where do you hear/read that the head shots were carried out through the glass?Draizetrain said:Bit of an odd one this...I mean in one aspect it's clearly the work of ruthless, high end, professional killers. Multiple clean headshots through glass suggest a team of skilled assassins as opposed to a single gunman....but then very amateurish `tidying up' by failing to silence one daughter and to even detect the other one.
These such squads aim to get rid of everyone for the obvious reasons of possible future identification but if family members of the intended target can also be hit in the process then all the better cos this is seen as a further warning to their enemies.0 -
Thanks Lincs.0
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Bloody hell - in Claygate ?Covered End said:
Yes, the surrounding area has been evacuated.SE10 said:Found a possible IED in the house/garden
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IED stand for (I assume its a bomb of some sort)
Irritating electrical device?0 -
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The bomb disposal team have now left. But the area remains cordoned off, due to some contents found in the house.0
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Incendiary explosive device. But if there was one, it wasn't live as the bomb squad have now left.0
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The Middle East comes to leafy Surrey with all its plots, feuds and merciless vendettasse9addick said:
Bloody hell - in Claygate ?Covered End said:
Yes, the surrounding area has been evacuated.SE10 said:Found a possible IED in the house/garden
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Improvised Explosive Device.0
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Improvised Explosive Device0
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I think it is Improvised Explosive Device; but I'm splitting hairs!Covered End said:Incendiary explosive device. But if there was one, it wasn't live as the bomb squad have now left.
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it's a trap .. there's 2 of em !!0
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It was reported in the paper that one reason the doors weren't opened for ages, and the little girl found, was that the windows had holes in them but had not shattered all together. They wanted to preserve the scene so waited for forensics.eaststandmike said:
Out of interest where do you hear/read that the head shots were carried out through the glass?Draizetrain said:Bit of an odd one this...I mean in one aspect it's clearly the work of ruthless, high end, professional killers. Multiple clean headshots through glass suggest a team of skilled assassins as opposed to a single gunman....but then very amateurish `tidying up' by failing to silence one daughter and to even detect the other one.
These such squads aim to get rid of everyone for the obvious reasons of possible future identification but if family members of the intended target can also be hit in the process then all the better cos this is seen as a further warning to their enemies.0 -
There are photo's online (BBC I think) and you can clearly see holes in the glass.PL54 said:
It was reported in the paper that one reason the doors weren't opened for ages, and the little girl found, was that the windows had holes in them but had not shattered all together. They wanted to preserve the scene so waited for forensics.eaststandmike said:
Out of interest where do you hear/read that the head shots were carried out through the glass?Draizetrain said:Bit of an odd one this...I mean in one aspect it's clearly the work of ruthless, high end, professional killers. Multiple clean headshots through glass suggest a team of skilled assassins as opposed to a single gunman....but then very amateurish `tidying up' by failing to silence one daughter and to even detect the other one.
These such squads aim to get rid of everyone for the obvious reasons of possible future identification but if family members of the intended target can also be hit in the process then all the better cos this is seen as a further warning to their enemies.
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