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I-SAW-POUSO-PLAY
I-SAW-POUSO-PLAY Posts: 4,608
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I give you....Karl Robinson

Gets linked to every job that becomes available, but what has he actually done apart from being a young manager?
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  • Rizzo
    Rizzo Posts: 6,435
    I-SAW-POUSO-PLAY said:

    I give you....Karl Robinson

    Gets linked to every job that becomes available, but what has he actually done apart from being a young manager?

    Well there's...

    No. I got nothing!

  • randy andy
    randy andy Posts: 5,455
    He does look a bit like desperate dan, does that count for anything?
  • Folev the red
    Folev the red Posts: 2,087
    Lee Clarke, couldnt get hudders up with a massive budget.
    Made his name through a run of draws last season, a run we stopped.
  • Rizzo
    Rizzo Posts: 6,435
    Folev the red said:

    Lee Clarke, couldnt get hudders up with a massive budget.
    Made his name through a run of draws last season, a run we stopped.

    Well, us and the playoffs. But they don't count apparently.

  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,233
    Lee Clark is a good one.

    Chris Powell obviously, "Clueless clown" according to those that know about football (well someone had to say it). Personally I think he's good, very good in fact and will get better.

    Kenny Dalglish. Took over an already great team and club at Liverpool that went down hill as he bought his own players. Had a fortune to spend at Blackburn but did nothing while General Manager at Celtic other than appoint John Barnes and did little for Liverpool 2nd time around.

  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,025
    Does anyone actually rate Lee clark though?

    Paul Ince. I'm sure he only got the Blackpool job so his son stays a bit longer.
  • Its_Hamer_Time
    Its_Hamer_Time Posts: 1,565
    Michael Appleton....how many jobs has he had this season? Done nothing.
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    Our very own Paul Hart, thought it was mental how many times he was appointed at clubs and was usually the final nail in the coffin.

    Top youth coach as his record suggests though. Lucky to have him in that regard
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,372
    Lee Clark without a doubt.

    Definitely James Corden, sorry I mean Karl Robinson.

    Roberto Martinez - Linked with every Premier League job going when it comes available all because "he has done it with Wigan on a shoestring. Imagine what he could do with a lot of money!!!"....Doesn't work like that. The pressure of avoiding relegation and the pressure of delivering trophies are very different things.

    Michael Laudrup - I actually like him and think he is a good manager, however the very evening that he won the League Cup the media and supporters of big clubs were trying to shoehorn him into the likes of Chelsea, Real Madrid etc.
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,733
    Alex McLeish in the english game
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  • SheffieldRed
    SheffieldRed Posts: 3,772
    Henry Irving said:



    Kenny Dalglish. Took over an already great team and club at Liverpool that went down hill as he bought his own players. Had a fortune to spend at Blackburn but did nothing while General Manager at Celtic other than appoint John Barnes and did little for Liverpool 2nd time around.

    Alternatively

    He took over a team in aftermath of a disaster. He led them the double (when this meant something), he won the league again 2 years later, the FA cup a year later and then the league again. He also dealt with the Hillsborough disaster. Both Spurs and United would be wealther clubs during this period.

    Was given money at Blackburn, but still had to convince players to sign, and then mould a team. He won the league.

    League runners up with Newcastle. Also FA cup finalist with them.

    Took Barnes to Celtic. Took legal action against Celtic, and awarded money.

    Granted his second spell at Liverpool was not a success in terms of league position or player recruitment.
  • BlackForestReds
    BlackForestReds Posts: 17,952
    Nathan Prior, what has he ever achieved?
  • MrLargo
    MrLargo Posts: 7,991
    BlackForestReds said:

    Nathan Prior, what has he ever achieved?

    Most consecutive football accumulators placed without a win?
  • RedPanda
    RedPanda Posts: 4,988
    Redknapp.
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,862
    MrLargo said:

    BlackForestReds said:

    Nathan Prior, what has he ever achieved?

    Most consecutive football accumulators placed without a win?
    This is bang out of order.

    You have no job on what to base that opinion of him.

  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    Henry Irving said:

    Lee Clark is a good one.

    Chris Powell obviously, "Clueless clown" according to those that know about football (well someone had to say it). Personally I think he's good, very good in fact and will get better.

    Kenny Dalglish. Took over an already great team and club at Liverpool that went down hill as he bought his own players. Had a fortune to spend at Blackburn but did nothing while General Manager at Celtic other than appoint John Barnes and did little for Liverpool 2nd time around.

    apart from taking them from the second division to premiership champions you mean?
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,862
    I give you Mark Hughes and Steve Bruce.
  • MrLargo
    MrLargo Posts: 7,991
    MrOneLung said:

    I give you Mark Hughes and Steve Bruce.

    Agree with both of these although I think Hughes will struggle to get another job now.

    For over a decade Bryan Robson continually managed to get new jobs despite failing dismally in his previous position, he's my king of overrated managers.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,233
    cafcfan1990 said:

    Henry Irving said:

    Lee Clark is a good one.

    Chris Powell obviously, "Clueless clown" according to those that know about football (well someone had to say it). Personally I think he's good, very good in fact and will get better.

    Kenny Dalglish. Took over an already great team and club at Liverpool that went down hill as he bought his own players. Had a fortune to spend at Blackburn but did nothing while General Manager at Celtic other than appoint John Barnes and did little for Liverpool 2nd time around.

    apart from taking them from the second division to premiership champions you mean?
    ...but did nothing while general manager at Celtic.



  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    Henry Irving said:

    cafcfan1990 said:

    Henry Irving said:

    Lee Clark is a good one.

    Chris Powell obviously, "Clueless clown" according to those that know about football (well someone had to say it). Personally I think he's good, very good in fact and will get better.

    Kenny Dalglish. Took over an already great team and club at Liverpool that went down hill as he bought his own players. Had a fortune to spend at Blackburn but did nothing while General Manager at Celtic other than appoint John Barnes and did little for Liverpool 2nd time around.

    apart from taking them from the second division to premiership champions you mean?
    ...but did nothing while general manager at Celtic.



    yer sorry I misread
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  • I_Saw_Semedo_Score
    I_Saw_Semedo_Score Posts: 1,632
    cafctom said:

    Lee Clark without a doubt.

    Definitely James Corden, sorry I mean Karl Robinson.

    Roberto Martinez - Linked with every Premier League job going when it comes available all because "he has done it with Wigan on a shoestring. Imagine what he could do with a lot of money!!!"....Doesn't work like that. The pressure of avoiding relegation and the pressure of delivering trophies are very different things.

    Michael Laudrup - I actually like him and think he is a good manager, however the very evening that he won the League Cup the media and supporters of big clubs were trying to shoehorn him into the likes of Chelsea, Real Madrid etc.

    Martinez is class. The fact that he DOES keep them up every year when they're the smallest and least attractive club (bar maybe QPR-har-har) makes him a very good manager indeed. Certainly not overrated.
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    Pardew, Wenger
  • Algarveaddick
    Algarveaddick Posts: 21,156
    Henry Irving said:

    cafcfan1990 said:

    Henry Irving said:

    Lee Clark is a good one.

    Chris Powell obviously, "Clueless clown" according to those that know about football (well someone had to say it). Personally I think he's good, very good in fact and will get better.

    Kenny Dalglish. Took over an already great team and club at Liverpool that went down hill as he bought his own players. Had a fortune to spend at Blackburn but did nothing while General Manager at Celtic other than appoint John Barnes and did little for Liverpool 2nd time around.

    apart from taking them from the second division to premiership champions you mean?
    ...but did nothing while general manager at Celtic.



    Oh for a comma...
  • BlackForestReds
    BlackForestReds Posts: 17,952
    Iain Dowie...
  • Riviera
    Riviera Posts: 8,167
    Kenny Dalglish - Yeah done nothing in football on or off the pitch!

    He is one of the biggest names in football over the last 40 odd years.

    For goodness sake! I wish people would not try and talk about things they obviously know nothing about.
  • DanDavis
    DanDavis Posts: 1,131
    cafcfan1990 said:

    Pardew, Wenger

    Wenger??? I'd love to see ANY other manager try and re-create what he has achieved and built there over the years.

  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,862
    Wenger was good, now not so good.
    Last 8 years have given evidence of that.

    Bet people wouldnt want Sven Goran Ericcson as manager based on perfomances in last 10 years but had great record before that.
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,987
    No way is Wenger overrated.

  • AddickedAthletic
    AddickedAthletic Posts: 834
    Henry Irving said:

    Lee Clark is a good one.

    Chris Powell obviously, "Clueless clown" according to those that know about football (well someone had to say it). Personally I think he's good, very good in fact and will get better.

    Kenny Dalglish. Took over an already great team and club at Liverpool that went down hill as he bought his own players. Had a fortune to spend at Blackburn but did nothing while General Manager at Celtic other than appoint John Barnes and did little for Liverpool 2nd time around.

    THIS on both counts
  • LawrieAbrahams
    LawrieAbrahams Posts: 3,779
    edited March 2013
    Bryan Robson - although I don't think he is rated these days.

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