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Not really, the mail is probably the most biased of the mainstream but most of the written media lead with a political bias. The BBC are despised by the left and right so they are probably doing something rightBIG_ROB said:
They're the most biased media organization in the UK imo, nothing to do with China.BlackForestReds said:
If you had ever lived or visited a nation which tightly controls its media like China you'd realise how valuable the BBC is - yep it isn't perfect and occasionally does some stupid things like spiking the report into Maggie Thatcher's best mate Jimmy Savile and refused to play "Ding Dong the Witch is Dead" on the R1 chart show, so I can see why people think it's biased. On the whole though most people around the world - especially those living in nations with heavily censured media regard it as a beacon of light.BIG_ROB said:Kind of like some consider the BBC extremely biased in the UK.
The BBC was also banned in Burma for daring to report some news that was critical of the Burmese authorities.
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Papers have always been biased and I don't recall having to pay the Mail a compulsory fee to read any publication. The BBC on the other hand is supposed to the "flag carrier" and cater for everyone who pays their licence fee, which it doesn't do. Its okay for anyone who goes along with the Beeb to say they're doing a crackin job, but I don't and as I've paid the licence fee for the last 18 years to them just to own a blaaady telly, I think I'm entitled to say so, along with millions if others.Kap10 said:
Not really, the mail is probably the most biased of the mainstream but most of the written media lead with a political bias. The BBC are despised by the left and right so they are probably doing something rightBIG_ROB said:
They're the most biased media organization in the UK imo, nothing to do with China.BlackForestReds said:
If you had ever lived or visited a nation which tightly controls its media like China you'd realise how valuable the BBC is - yep it isn't perfect and occasionally does some stupid things like spiking the report into Maggie Thatcher's best mate Jimmy Savile and refused to play "Ding Dong the Witch is Dead" on the R1 chart show, so I can see why people think it's biased. On the whole though most people around the world - especially those living in nations with heavily censured media regard it as a beacon of light.BIG_ROB said:Kind of like some consider the BBC extremely biased in the UK.
The BBC was also banned in Burma for daring to report some news that was critical of the Burmese authorities.0 -
I thought you lived in France?BIG_ROB said:
Papers have always been biased and I don't recall having to pay the Mail a compulsory fee to read any publication. The BBC on the other hand is supposed to the "flag carrier" and cater for everyone who pays their licence fee, which it doesn't do. Its okay for anyone who goes along with the Beeb to say they're doing a crackin job, but I don't and as I've paid the licence fee for the last 18 years to them just to own a blaaady telly, I think I'm entitled to say so, along with millions if others.Kap10 said:
Not really, the mail is probably the most biased of the mainstream but most of the written media lead with a political bias. The BBC are despised by the left and right so they are probably doing something rightBIG_ROB said:
They're the most biased media organization in the UK imo, nothing to do with China.BlackForestReds said:
If you had ever lived or visited a nation which tightly controls its media like China you'd realise how valuable the BBC is - yep it isn't perfect and occasionally does some stupid things like spiking the report into Maggie Thatcher's best mate Jimmy Savile and refused to play "Ding Dong the Witch is Dead" on the R1 chart show, so I can see why people think it's biased. On the whole though most people around the world - especially those living in nations with heavily censured media regard it as a beacon of light.BIG_ROB said:Kind of like some consider the BBC extremely biased in the UK.
The BBC was also banned in Burma for daring to report some news that was critical of the Burmese authorities.0 -
(I was waiting for that old chestnut) Only for the last 3 yearsOff_it said:
I thought you lived in France?BIG_ROB said:
Papers have always been biased and I don't recall having to pay the Mail a compulsory fee to read any publication. The BBC on the other hand is supposed to the "flag carrier" and cater for everyone who pays their licence fee, which it doesn't do. Its okay for anyone who goes along with the Beeb to say they're doing a crackin job, but I don't and as I've paid the licence fee for the last 18 years to them just to own a blaaady telly, I think I'm entitled to say so, along with millions if others.Kap10 said:
Not really, the mail is probably the most biased of the mainstream but most of the written media lead with a political bias. The BBC are despised by the left and right so they are probably doing something rightBIG_ROB said:
They're the most biased media organization in the UK imo, nothing to do with China.BlackForestReds said:
If you had ever lived or visited a nation which tightly controls its media like China you'd realise how valuable the BBC is - yep it isn't perfect and occasionally does some stupid things like spiking the report into Maggie Thatcher's best mate Jimmy Savile and refused to play "Ding Dong the Witch is Dead" on the R1 chart show, so I can see why people think it's biased. On the whole though most people around the world - especially those living in nations with heavily censured media regard it as a beacon of light.BIG_ROB said:Kind of like some consider the BBC extremely biased in the UK.
The BBC was also banned in Burma for daring to report some news that was critical of the Burmese authorities.0 -
Ever been to Glasgow ?Stu_of_Kunming said:
So the rest of Britain don't speak English?se9addick said:
Wouldn't English be more accurately depicted by St George's cross ?Stu_of_Kunming said:It would piss me off a lot less if my school didn't have the Union Jack over all it's material.
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Every radio station and newspaper has an editorial bias depending on who owns it and what agenda they are pushing. The BBC as a publicly owned organisation should and proports to be unbiased but achieving that is almost impossible. Althought it has no editorial "line" to follow it has many and diverse editors and reporters who of course cannot help the way they see things or believe things coming through in their programmes and pieces. I think the BBC does a remarkable job and we would be a lot worse if it were to be lost to an un achievable quest for reporting that upsets nobody. I suggest people think for themselves but perhaps that is just as un achievable.BIG_ROB said:
There you go, BBC works just fine for the rest of the planet and it's still the most biased media organisation in the UK (imo).Stu_of_Kunming said:
BBC works just fine.BlackForestReds said:
If you had ever lived or visited a nation which tightly controls its media like China you'd realise how valuable the BBC is - yep it isn't perfect and occasionally does some stupid things like spiking the report into Maggie Thatcher's best mate Jimmy Savile and refused to play "Ding Dong the Witch is Dead" on the R1 chart show, so I can see why people think it's biased. On the whole though most people around the world - especially those living in nations with heavily censured media regard it as a beacon of light.BIG_ROB said:Kind of like some consider the BBC extremely biased in the UK.
The BBC was also banned in Burma for daring to report some news that was critical of the Burmese authorities.
Nice to know the licence fee helps so many people around the world though!
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Well said SHG, totally agree. Also, no pesky ads trying to get me to 1) Bet or 2) Compare bl00dy markets.ShootersHillGuru said:
Every radio station and newspaper has an editorial bias depending on who owns it and what agenda they are pushing. The BBC as a publicly owned organisation should and proports to be unbiased but achieving that is almost impossible. Althought it has no editorial "line" to follow it has many and diverse editors and reporters who of course cannot help the way they see things or believe things coming through in their programmes and pieces. I think the BBC does a remarkable job and we would be a lot worse if it were to be lost to an un achievable quest for reporting that upsets nobody. I suggest people think for themselves but perhaps that is just as un achievable.BIG_ROB said:
There you go, BBC works just fine for the rest of the planet and it's still the most biased media organisation in the UK (imo).Stu_of_Kunming said:
BBC works just fine.BlackForestReds said:
If you had ever lived or visited a nation which tightly controls its media like China you'd realise how valuable the BBC is - yep it isn't perfect and occasionally does some stupid things like spiking the report into Maggie Thatcher's best mate Jimmy Savile and refused to play "Ding Dong the Witch is Dead" on the R1 chart show, so I can see why people think it's biased. On the whole though most people around the world - especially those living in nations with heavily censured media regard it as a beacon of light.BIG_ROB said:Kind of like some consider the BBC extremely biased in the UK.
The BBC was also banned in Burma for daring to report some news that was critical of the Burmese authorities.
Nice to know the licence fee helps so many people around the world though!0 -
Only right wing nut jobs though Rob. Luckily we don't have any of them on CL... :-)BIG_ROB said:Kind of like some consider the BBC extremely biased in the UK.
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ShootersHillGuru said:
Every radio station and newspaper has an editorial bias depending on who owns it and what agenda they are pushing. The BBC as a publicly owned organisation should and proports to be unbiased but achieving that is almost impossible. Althought it has no editorial "line" to follow it has many and diverse editors and reporters who of course cannot help the way they see things or believe things coming through in their programmes and pieces. I think the BBC does a remarkable job and we would be a lot worse if it were to be lost to an un achievable quest for reporting that upsets nobody. I suggest people think for themselves but perhaps that is just as un achievable.BIG_ROB said:
There you go, BBC works just fine for the rest of the planet and it's still the most biased media organisation in the UK (imo).Stu_of_Kunming said:
BBC works just fine.BlackForestReds said:
If you had ever lived or visited a nation which tightly controls its media like China you'd realise how valuable the BBC is - yep it isn't perfect and occasionally does some stupid things like spiking the report into Maggie Thatcher's best mate Jimmy Savile and refused to play "Ding Dong the Witch is Dead" on the R1 chart show, so I can see why people think it's biased. On the whole though most people around the world - especially those living in nations with heavily censured media regard it as a beacon of light.BIG_ROB said:Kind of like some consider the BBC extremely biased in the UK.
The BBC was also banned in Burma for daring to report some news that was critical of the Burmese authorities.
Nice to know the licence fee helps so many people around the world though!
Every radio station and newspaper has an editorial bias depending on who owns it and what agenda they are pushing. The BBC as a publicly owned organisation should and proports to be unbiased
That was my point
Althought it has no editorial "line" to follow it has many and diverse editors and reporters who of course cannot help the way they see things or believe things coming through in their programmes and pieces
It's just that I always seem to see things the polar opposite way they all do on almost everything. Like I said, if you think the same way as the Beeb you obviously won't see anything wrong with it, but in my opinion there's far too many that don't and, therefore I don't think they do a very good job.0 -
Perhaps you are doing exactly what you are accusing others of ? If you agree with something it says you might not even notice it, whereas if you disagree you pick up on it straight away. I don't agree with everything the Beeb says but I am glad that it has the licence to be able to say whatever and not have a Rupert Murdoch figure policing every word in order to push whichever policy line they feel best fits in with their agenda. If you give your editors no strict guidelines as to "a line" then you are bound to have many different views. Some we like and some we don't.BIG_ROB said:ShootersHillGuru said:
Every radio station and newspaper has an editorial bias depending on who owns it and what agenda they are pushing. The BBC as a publicly owned organisation should and proports to be unbiased but achieving that is almost impossible. Althought it has no editorial "line" to follow it has many and diverse editors and reporters who of course cannot help the way they see things or believe things coming through in their programmes and pieces. I think the BBC does a remarkable job and we would be a lot worse if it were to be lost to an un achievable quest for reporting that upsets nobody. I suggest people think for themselves but perhaps that is just as un achievable.BIG_ROB said:
There you go, BBC works just fine for the rest of the planet and it's still the most biased media organisation in the UK (imo).Stu_of_Kunming said:
BBC works just fine.BlackForestReds said:
If you had ever lived or visited a nation which tightly controls its media like China you'd realise how valuable the BBC is - yep it isn't perfect and occasionally does some stupid things like spiking the report into Maggie Thatcher's best mate Jimmy Savile and refused to play "Ding Dong the Witch is Dead" on the R1 chart show, so I can see why people think it's biased. On the whole though most people around the world - especially those living in nations with heavily censured media regard it as a beacon of light.BIG_ROB said:Kind of like some consider the BBC extremely biased in the UK.
The BBC was also banned in Burma for daring to report some news that was critical of the Burmese authorities.
Nice to know the licence fee helps so many people around the world though!
Every radio station and newspaper has an editorial bias depending on who owns it and what agenda they are pushing. The BBC as a publicly owned organisation should and proports to be unbiased
That was my point
Althought it has no editorial "line" to follow it has many and diverse editors and reporters who of course cannot help the way they see things or believe things coming through in their programmes and pieces
It's just that I always seem to see things the polar opposite way they all do on almost everything. Like I said, if you think the same way as the Beeb you obviously won't see anything wrong with it, but in my opinion there's far too many that don't and, therefore I don't think they do a very good job.
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As I said before, I certainly wouldn't use the SGC to demonstrate anything, as no one would know wtf it was.se9addick said:
Of course they do. But would you use those nations to demonstrate the English language ?Stu_of_Kunming said:
So the rest of Britain don't speak English?se9addick said:
Wouldn't English be more accurately depicted by St George's cross ?Stu_of_Kunming said:It would piss me off a lot less if my school didn't have the Union Jack over all it's material.
Being a teacher, here's your homework: what language would you associate with the Welsh flag ?
I don't see how the Welsh flag is relevant, as it's not being used.0 -
Sorry, maybe I didn't make my point well. The British flag represents Britain- which has three or four native languages. English is the native language of England (not Britain) therefore the SGC would more accurately represent the language rather than the UJ - which would be as misleading as using the Stars and Stripes, which was the original point.Stu_of_Kunming said:
As I said before, I certainly wouldn't use the SGC to demonstrate anything, as no one would know wtf it was.se9addick said:
Of course they do. But would you use those nations to demonstrate the English language ?Stu_of_Kunming said:
So the rest of Britain don't speak English?se9addick said:
Wouldn't English be more accurately depicted by St George's cross ?Stu_of_Kunming said:It would piss me off a lot less if my school didn't have the Union Jack over all it's material.
Being a teacher, here's your homework: what language would you associate with the Welsh flag ?
I don't see how the Welsh flag is relevant, as it's not being used.0 -
English is the national language except for a handfull of people in certain places, but they all still speak English.se9addick said:
Sorry, maybe I didn't make my point well. The British flag represents Britain- which has three or four native languages. English is the native language of England (not Britain) therefore the SGC would more accurately represent the language rather than the UJ - which would be as misleading as using the Stars and Stripes, which was the original point.Stu_of_Kunming said:
As I said before, I certainly wouldn't use the SGC to demonstrate anything, as no one would know wtf it was.se9addick said:
Of course they do. But would you use those nations to demonstrate the English language ?Stu_of_Kunming said:
So the rest of Britain don't speak English?se9addick said:
Wouldn't English be more accurately depicted by St George's cross ?Stu_of_Kunming said:It would piss me off a lot less if my school didn't have the Union Jack over all it's material.
Being a teacher, here's your homework: what language would you associate with the Welsh flag ?
I don't see how the Welsh flag is relevant, as it's not being used.0 -
So using that logic we should use the Stars and Stripes to reflect the English language ?BIG_ROB said:
English is the national language except for a handfull of people in certain places, but they all still speak English.se9addick said:
Sorry, maybe I didn't make my point well. The British flag represents Britain- which has three or four native languages. English is the native language of England (not Britain) therefore the SGC would more accurately represent the language rather than the UJ - which would be as misleading as using the Stars and Stripes, which was the original point.Stu_of_Kunming said:
As I said before, I certainly wouldn't use the SGC to demonstrate anything, as no one would know wtf it was.se9addick said:
Of course they do. But would you use those nations to demonstrate the English language ?Stu_of_Kunming said:
So the rest of Britain don't speak English?se9addick said:
Wouldn't English be more accurately depicted by St George's cross ?Stu_of_Kunming said:It would piss me off a lot less if my school didn't have the Union Jack over all it's material.
Being a teacher, here's your homework: what language would you associate with the Welsh flag ?
I don't see how the Welsh flag is relevant, as it's not being used.0 -
Dry up ffsse9addick said:
So using that logic we should use the Stars and Stripes to reflect the English language ?BIG_ROB said:
English is the national language except for a handfull of people in certain places, but they all still speak English.se9addick said:
Sorry, maybe I didn't make my point well. The British flag represents Britain- which has three or four native languages. English is the native language of England (not Britain) therefore the SGC would more accurately represent the language rather than the UJ - which would be as misleading as using the Stars and Stripes, which was the original point.Stu_of_Kunming said:
As I said before, I certainly wouldn't use the SGC to demonstrate anything, as no one would know wtf it was.se9addick said:
Of course they do. But would you use those nations to demonstrate the English language ?Stu_of_Kunming said:
So the rest of Britain don't speak English?se9addick said:
Wouldn't English be more accurately depicted by St George's cross ?Stu_of_Kunming said:It would piss me off a lot less if my school didn't have the Union Jack over all it's material.
Being a teacher, here's your homework: what language would you associate with the Welsh flag ?
I don't see how the Welsh flag is relevant, as it's not being used.0 -
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You're missing the point, NO ONE would have a clue what the crazy red cross on a white backing is, so it wouldn't represent anything.se9addick said:
Sorry, maybe I didn't make my point well. The British flag represents Britain- which has three or four native languages. English is the native language of England (not Britain) therefore the SGC would more accurately represent the language rather than the UJ - which would be as misleading as using the Stars and Stripes, which was the original point.Stu_of_Kunming said:
As I said before, I certainly wouldn't use the SGC to demonstrate anything, as no one would know wtf it was.se9addick said:
Of course they do. But would you use those nations to demonstrate the English language ?Stu_of_Kunming said:
So the rest of Britain don't speak English?se9addick said:
Wouldn't English be more accurately depicted by St George's cross ?Stu_of_Kunming said:It would piss me off a lot less if my school didn't have the Union Jack over all it's material.
Being a teacher, here's your homework: what language would you associate with the Welsh flag ?
I don't see how the Welsh flag is relevant, as it's not being used.0 -
Game, set and match ?Stu_of_Kunming said:
You're missing the point, NO ONE would have a clue what the crazy red cross on a white backing is, so it wouldn't represent anything.se9addick said:
Sorry, maybe I didn't make my point well. The British flag represents Britain- which has three or four native languages. English is the native language of England (not Britain) therefore the SGC would more accurately represent the language rather than the UJ - which would be as misleading as using the Stars and Stripes, which was the original point.Stu_of_Kunming said:
As I said before, I certainly wouldn't use the SGC to demonstrate anything, as no one would know wtf it was.se9addick said:
Of course they do. But would you use those nations to demonstrate the English language ?Stu_of_Kunming said:
So the rest of Britain don't speak English?se9addick said:
Wouldn't English be more accurately depicted by St George's cross ?Stu_of_Kunming said:It would piss me off a lot less if my school didn't have the Union Jack over all it's material.
Being a teacher, here's your homework: what language would you associate with the Welsh flag ?
I don't see how the Welsh flag is relevant, as it's not being used.
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Ah right, sorry, I presumed the red cross on a white background was synonymous with England the world over.Stu_of_Kunming said:
You're missing the point, NO ONE would have a clue what the crazy red cross on a white backing is, so it wouldn't represent anything.se9addick said:
Sorry, maybe I didn't make my point well. The British flag represents Britain- which has three or four native languages. English is the native language of England (not Britain) therefore the SGC would more accurately represent the language rather than the UJ - which would be as misleading as using the Stars and Stripes, which was the original point.Stu_of_Kunming said:
As I said before, I certainly wouldn't use the SGC to demonstrate anything, as no one would know wtf it was.se9addick said:
Of course they do. But would you use those nations to demonstrate the English language ?Stu_of_Kunming said:
So the rest of Britain don't speak English?se9addick said:
Wouldn't English be more accurately depicted by St George's cross ?Stu_of_Kunming said:It would piss me off a lot less if my school didn't have the Union Jack over all it's material.
Being a teacher, here's your homework: what language would you associate with the Welsh flag ?
I don't see how the Welsh flag is relevant, as it's not being used.0 -
The BBC World Service is paid for the Foreign Office not by the licence fee.BIG_ROB said:
There you go, BBC works just fine for the rest of the planet and it's still the most biased media organisation in the UK (imo).Stu_of_Kunming said:
BBC works just fine.BlackForestReds said:
If you had ever lived or visited a nation which tightly controls its media like China you'd realise how valuable the BBC is - yep it isn't perfect and occasionally does some stupid things like spiking the report into Maggie Thatcher's best mate Jimmy Savile and refused to play "Ding Dong the Witch is Dead" on the R1 chart show, so I can see why people think it's biased. On the whole though most people around the world - especially those living in nations with heavily censured media regard it as a beacon of light.BIG_ROB said:Kind of like some consider the BBC extremely biased in the UK.
The BBC was also banned in Burma for daring to report some news that was critical of the Burmese authorities.
Nice to know the licence fee helps so many people around the world though!
Yep, occasionally they get things wrong and can occasionally be accused of bias to the left and/or right - but it's telling that they have managed to piss off both the Labour and Conservative governments (and parties) but the bias is nowhere near what it is at virtually every other media organisation in the UK.
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You was wrong.se9addick said:
Ah right, sorry, I presumed the red cross on a white background was synonymous with England the world over.Stu_of_Kunming said:
You're missing the point, NO ONE would have a clue what the crazy red cross on a white backing is, so it wouldn't represent anything.se9addick said:
Sorry, maybe I didn't make my point well. The British flag represents Britain- which has three or four native languages. English is the native language of England (not Britain) therefore the SGC would more accurately represent the language rather than the UJ - which would be as misleading as using the Stars and Stripes, which was the original point.Stu_of_Kunming said:
As I said before, I certainly wouldn't use the SGC to demonstrate anything, as no one would know wtf it was.se9addick said:
Of course they do. But would you use those nations to demonstrate the English language ?Stu_of_Kunming said:
So the rest of Britain don't speak English?se9addick said:
Wouldn't English be more accurately depicted by St George's cross ?Stu_of_Kunming said:It would piss me off a lot less if my school didn't have the Union Jack over all it's material.
Being a teacher, here's your homework: what language would you associate with the Welsh flag ?
I don't see how the Welsh flag is relevant, as it's not being used.0 -
An american congressman once said if english was good enough for Jesus Christ its good enough for me. ( this was when the cajun population wanted the USA to addopt french as the official lingo.BIG_ROB said:
English is the national language except for a handfull of people in certain places, but they all still speak English.se9addick said:
Sorry, maybe I didn't make my point well. The British flag represents Britain- which has three or four native languages. English is the native language of England (not Britain) therefore the SGC would more accurately represent the language rather than the UJ - which would be as misleading as using the Stars and Stripes, which was the original point.Stu_of_Kunming said:
As I said before, I certainly wouldn't use the SGC to demonstrate anything, as no one would know wtf it was.se9addick said:
Of course they do. But would you use those nations to demonstrate the English language ?Stu_of_Kunming said:
So the rest of Britain don't speak English?se9addick said:
Wouldn't English be more accurately depicted by St George's cross ?Stu_of_Kunming said:It would piss me off a lot less if my school didn't have the Union Jack over all it's material.
Being a teacher, here's your homework: what language would you associate with the Welsh flag ?
I don't see how the Welsh flag is relevant, as it's not being used.
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Aaaahhgg........ Bloody awful grammar from an English teacher :-)))))Stu_of_Kunming said:
You was wrong.se9addick said:
Ah right, sorry, I presumed the red cross on a white background was synonymous with England the world over.Stu_of_Kunming said:
You're missing the point, NO ONE would have a clue what the crazy red cross on a white backing is, so it wouldn't represent anything.se9addick said:
Sorry, maybe I didn't make my point well. The British flag represents Britain- which has three or four native languages. English is the native language of England (not Britain) therefore the SGC would more accurately represent the language rather than the UJ - which would be as misleading as using the Stars and Stripes, which was the original point.Stu_of_Kunming said:
As I said before, I certainly wouldn't use the SGC to demonstrate anything, as no one would know wtf it was.se9addick said:
Of course they do. But would you use those nations to demonstrate the English language ?Stu_of_Kunming said:
So the rest of Britain don't speak English?se9addick said:
Wouldn't English be more accurately depicted by St George's cross ?Stu_of_Kunming said:It would piss me off a lot less if my school didn't have the Union Jack over all it's material.
Being a teacher, here's your homework: what language would you associate with the Welsh flag ?
I don't see how the Welsh flag is relevant, as it's not being used.
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