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Most recent player to over-perform regularly for England

thai malaysia addick
thai malaysia addick Posts: 18,384
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I am trying to think of a player that may have performed well for his club but excelled for England. I'm struggling - Stuart Pearce is about the best I can do. Maybe, Teddy Sheringham but anyone recently?
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  • Leroy Ambrose
    Leroy Ambrose Posts: 14,444
    Rachel Yankey
  • paulsturgess
    paulsturgess Posts: 3,859
    You might be better off thinking about it the other way round mate. Much easier.
  • francis4england
    francis4england Posts: 421
    Darius Vassell
  • DeeBee
    DeeBee Posts: 1,033
    David Beckham post Greece freekick
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 38,008
    Dont think ive seen Ashley Cole have a bad game for England but ive seen him chuck a couple of stinkers for Chelsea
  • bolloxbolder
    bolloxbolder Posts: 7,973
    Steve Stone
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,218
    Franny Jeffers. 100% goals to games ratio for England. And he only cost us £2.5million
  • Rizzo
    Rizzo Posts: 6,436
    Peter Crouch?
  • Addick in SW16
    Addick in SW16 Posts: 1,421
    Good shout!
  • Addick in SW16
    Addick in SW16 Posts: 1,421
    Better than a goal every other game, although you could argue that the oppostition wasn't of the highest standard. Still a great record.

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  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,381
    Lampard .. though he regularly 'over performs' for both Chelsea & England
  • Rizzo
    Rizzo Posts: 6,436
    Addick in SW16 said:

    Better than a goal every other game, although you could argue that the oppostition wasn't of the highest standard. Still a great record.

    It's a record that looks good on paper but, to the best of my knowledge, he scored every single one of those goals against opposition ranked lower than England. In other words, he couldn't score against anyone decent! Looks good on paper though and I would probably still have played him against the 'minnows' which still manage to get into the World and European Championships, especially in qualifying.

  • Absurdistan
    Absurdistan Posts: 8,024
    Heskey
  • McBobbin
    McBobbin Posts: 12,053
    francis4england said:

    Darius Vassell

    beaten to it
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 38,008
    Rizzo said:

    Addick in SW16 said:

    Better than a goal every other game, although you could argue that the oppostition wasn't of the highest standard. Still a great record.

    It's a record that looks good on paper but, to the best of my knowledge, he scored every single one of those goals against opposition ranked lower than England. In other words, he couldn't score against anyone decent! Looks good on paper though and I would probably still have played him against the 'minnows' which still manage to get into the World and European Championships, especially in qualifying.

    be interesting to know who he played against that was above us in the rankings.

    Whenever we play anyone decent we shit ourselves and went 1 up top...which was usually Rooney.
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,492
    Crouch might be a good one? Always managed to stick one in during his robot phase.
  • Rizzo
    Rizzo Posts: 6,436
    SELR_addicks said:

    Crouch might be a good one? Always managed to stick one in during his robot phase.

    Good shout! Wish I'd thought of that...

  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,492
    Rizzo said:

    SELR_addicks said:

    Crouch might be a good one? Always managed to stick one in during his robot phase.

    Good shout! Wish I'd thought of that...

    Ahh! Didn't realise, well played.
  • BlackForestReds
    BlackForestReds Posts: 17,952
    Jeffers - one game, one goal.
  • BIG_ROB
    BIG_ROB Posts: 5,274
    What about Crouch?

    Surprised he ain't got a mention already.....

    ; )

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  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,958
    David Nugent, 1 sub appearance, 1 goal, who has been pretty anonymous since. He hasn't dramatically fallen fron grace like Jeffers, but rather has just been fairly average.
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,218
    Rizzo said:

    Addick in SW16 said:

    Better than a goal every other game, although you could argue that the oppostition wasn't of the highest standard. Still a great record.

    It's a record that looks good on paper but, to the best of my knowledge, he scored every single one of those goals against opposition ranked lower than England. In other words, he couldn't score against anyone decent! Looks good on paper though and I would probably still have played him against the 'minnows' which still manage to get into the World and European Championships, especially in qualifying.

    I heard that myth about Crouch only being able to score against weak opposition a long time ago and I looked into it to find this excellent (and incredibly in-depth) article about it

    http://www.ongoalsscored.com/2011/08/07/the-peter-crouch-myth/

    It's worth a read and it does show that it's not really a fair accusation to level at Crouch
  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456
    Pele only scored against teams ranked lower than Brazil.
  • kinveachyaddick
    kinveachyaddick Posts: 3,881
    francis4england said:

    Darius Vassell

    this is probably the best shout

  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,492
    Addickted said:

    Pele only scored against teams ranked lower than Brazil.

    Messi's rubbish, he's only ever played well against teams worse than Barcelona.
  • AdTheAddicK
    AdTheAddicK Posts: 3,379
    Owen Hargreaves
  • Tewkesbury_Addick
    Tewkesbury_Addick Posts: 627
    Hart this year seems to play much better for England than he does for Man City
  • Dave2l
    Dave2l Posts: 8,880
    Danny welbeck
  • Algarveaddick
    Algarveaddick Posts: 21,175
    kinveachyaddick said:

    francis4england said:

    Darius Vassell

    this is probably the best shout

    First player who sprung to my mind too...
  • Addick in SW16
    Addick in SW16 Posts: 1,421
    Garrymanilow said:

    Rizzo said:

    Addick in SW16 said:

    Better than a goal every other game, although you could argue that the oppostition wasn't of the highest standard. Still a great record.

    It's a record that looks good on paper but, to the best of my knowledge, he scored every single one of those goals against opposition ranked lower than England. In other words, he couldn't score against anyone decent! Looks good on paper though and I would probably still have played him against the 'minnows' which still manage to get into the World and European Championships, especially in qualifying.

    I heard that myth about Crouch only being able to score against weak opposition a long time ago and I looked into it to find this excellent (and incredibly in-depth) article about it

    http://www.ongoalsscored.com/2011/08/07/the-peter-crouch-myth/

    It's worth a read and it does show that it's not really a fair accusation to level at Crouch
    Thanks for the link. Very interesting read. Judging by goals per minutes played, Crouch averaged almost a goal every game. He scored important goals against a range of opposition and, as stated in the article, if England would have scored against supposedly weak oppostion oppostion (Macedonia) they would have qualified for Euro 2008 and if a goal was managed againt Algeria, we would have faced Ghana instead of Germany in the World Cup, not that you can go through tournaments hoping to avoid the big-guns!

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