England - Lets Get The Excuses In Early
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Should have been done after 2006 world cup, Ukraine are massive at 5/2 to win the group and 7/4 to win tonight in my opinion.0
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Daily Mail " to many forign c++ts "
Daily Mirror "the EDL c++ts did it"
Guardian "half price on hemp jackets"0 -
Kyle Walker done too many balloons0
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Failed to qualify for each once since the seventies, reached two semis and five quarter finals since. Not gone out of the WC at the group stage since either. Depends on what your definition of improvement is, I tend to go by the one in the dictionary.0
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If we win, we will still have god knows how many idiots saying "Still not convincing though, wahhhh!!"0
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I blame Rooney's gash....0
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we will win tonight 1-30
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Imo RH is the best man for the job , and is doing the best with what we've got , i'm fully behind him , i don't want to see the press get on his back if we don't qualify, but the quality and numbers of quality players available to him , is shocking.0
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This. Guys got a great track record having successful teams with relatively poor talent available.Mendonca In Asdas said:Imo RH is the best man for the job , and is doing the best with what we've got , i'm fully behind him , i don't want to see the press get on his back if we don't qualify, but the quality and numbers of quality players available to him , is shocking.
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They need to stop throwing caps around to all and sundry.
Have a plan and stick to it. If you are looking long term, get a group of early twentysomethings and stick with them.
Try to keep the neucleus of the team stable.
If a player is injured and can't play, then bring him anyway, if only for morale.
Come on England.0 - Sponsored links:
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Liking that Robbo.0
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If we qualify then we're good enough, if we don't qualify we are not good enough - simple as that.0
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Ukriane 0 England 1 (Gerrard). That's where my money is.0
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England 0 Premiership 2.3 billion (quid)0
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Lampards 100th cap. 10/1 1st goalscorer for the sentimentalists amongst you.0
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For all England's undoubted limitations, this is a game we have a right to expect not to lose! It is going to be tough and Ukraine will be up for it, but a lot will depend on our approach. I think England have to go for victory tonight for two reasons.
Firstly – if they are too defensive minded they will play into Ukraine’s hands and
Secondly a win will mean they can afford to lose one of their two remaining games at home to Montenegro and Poland and still finish top. Neither are walkovers so the three points tonight would take a lot of pressure off.
Of course qulaifying and doing well in the actual finals are two completely different propositions. I'd play Walcott as the second striker personally0 -
I tend to agree.Robbo on the wing said:They need to stop throwing caps around to all and sundry.
Have a plan and stick to it. If you are looking long term, get a group of early twentysomethings and stick with them.
Try to keep the neucleus of the team stable.
If a player is injured and can't play, then bring him anyway, if only for morale.
Come on England.
How has Ross Barkley earned an England cap already?? In a competetive game as well. Cant give out caps on 'potential'. The guys made just 16 Prem appearances!!!0 -
And didn't stand out against us. Now he's playing for EnglandValleyGary said:
I tend to agree.Robbo on the wing said:They need to stop throwing caps around to all and sundry.
Have a plan and stick to it. If you are looking long term, get a group of early twentysomethings and stick with them.
Try to keep the neucleus of the team stable.
If a player is injured and can't play, then bring him anyway, if only for morale.
Come on England.
How has Ross Barkley earned an England cap already?? In a competetive game as well. Cant give out caps on 'potential'. The guys made just 16 Prem appearances!!!
And where is Jonjo? Leaves Liverpool and loses his place?
Anyway - what we need to do is build the team around the spine. Hart (overrated sometimes and makes too many mistakes), Cahill (young-ish), Wilshere (world class. fabulous player. Englands future) and Sturridge (when fit).
Throw in Walcott, Sterling, Welbeck (who I personally think is cack) and you have plenty of attacking options. Bent, Defoe and Rooney other options too
Then look at Barclay, Shelvey, Nathan Redmond as backups who should be in and around the squad
Defence needs some strengthening though. Not enough strength in depth but we have a lot of decent attacking youngsters
We need to write-off a few tournaments and build something around our younger players. Germany did it. Spain did it. France did it. All won things with it (Germany haven't this time round yet - but it's likely)
Tonight - I predict a 1-1 or maybe a 1-2. Really tight game and a rather hostile atmosphere
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Cannot agree more about the willy nilly cap giving that has been going on for a few years now. I don't agree with the 'blood them in young' approach as it rarely seems to make any difference.
Gone are the days when fans would have to campaign on the terraces and sing "so and so for England" week in and week out, driving that player on to keep up the consistency. Nowadays, you just need 'potential' to play on the international stage.
It has been statistically demonstrated that teams with consistent squads and teams tend to do better. Its not about the individual quality of the players, but the unit as a whole. Bringing in one or two 19 year olds 'just to give them a chance' every bloody game doesn't actually help anyone IMO.0 -
I'd add Baines to that Swisdom. 29 years old, so has two major tournaments in him at least. Walker is a fairly decent RB, be interesting to see how he does if we qualify for the WC. We have the basics of a fairly good international team, we just need consistency in selection.
I think Lambert has also been a breath of fresh air, because he's slightly different to what most overseas players play against domestically.0 - Sponsored links:
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When you combine BOTH club football and international football, Danny Welbeck has only scored 29 career goals. Yet he always seems to start when he is available. If that doesn't tell you that playing for Man United gives you an enormous advantage of getting into the England squad, regardless of ability or form, then I don't know what does.0
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Id love it if we win tonight just to annoy Martin Samuel in the Mail.
He is itching for us to lose and Lambert to have a stinker just so it backs up his support of Harry Redknapp.
The dig at Chris Powell in his article today was also unnecessary.
I think it will be 1-1 personally which is a good result.0 -
Now when did that pay off for us before..........oh yeh 1966. C'mon England just make sure we don't lose.cafctom said:Cannot agree more about the willy nilly cap giving that has been going on for a few years now. I don't agree with the 'blood them in young' approach as it rarely seems to make any difference.
Gone are the days when fans would have to campaign on the terraces and sing "so and so for England" week in and week out, driving that player on to keep up the consistency. Nowadays, you just need 'potential' to play on the international stage.
It has been statistically demonstrated that teams with consistent squads and teams tend to do better. Its not about the individual quality of the players, but the unit as a whole. Bringing in one or two 19 year olds 'just to give them a chance' every bloody game doesn't actually help anyone IMO.0 -
Lambert is the future. I'd give him the armband.Southendaddick said:Id love it if we win tonight just to annoy Martin Samuel in the Mail.
He is itching for us to lose and Lambert to have a stinker just so it backs up his support of Harry Redknapp.
The dig at Chris Powell in his article today was also unnecessary.
I think it will be 1-1 personally which is a good result.0 -
At 31 lol0
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Lambert will be a surprise package in brazil in my opinion. Will want it so badly and knows where the goal is as well as being a handful physically.0
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A 31yo with more desire to wear that shirt than the rest of them combined. I'm not being 100% serious but he does reminds me of this lot
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONxxep8NbmQ 0 -
What did he say about CP, Tim?Southendaddick said:Id love it if we win tonight just to annoy Martin Samuel in the Mail.
He is itching for us to lose and Lambert to have a stinker just so it backs up his support of Harry Redknapp.
The dig at Chris Powell in his article today was also unnecessary.
I think it will be 1-1 personally which is a good result.
The only time any manager has really picked from across the board has been when a foreigner has been in charge Tom, during my lifetime all the English managers have been hard set on picking players from the biggest clubs, encouraged by the press of course.cafctom said:When you combine BOTH club football and international football, Danny Welbeck has only scored 29 career goals. Yet he always seems to start when he is available. If that doesn't tell you that playing for Man United gives you an enormous advantage of getting into the England squad, regardless of ability or form, then I don't know what does.
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Agree Algarve on the basis in more recent times that if you were really good you would be playing for one of the top sides and gaining experience in Europe. Back in the day of course Sir Alf picked from across the board and more recently the likes of Le Tissier and Shearer were exceptions to the rule.Algarveaddick said:
What did he say about CP, Tim?Southendaddick said:Id love it if we win tonight just to annoy Martin Samuel in the Mail.
He is itching for us to lose and Lambert to have a stinker just so it backs up his support of Harry Redknapp.
The dig at Chris Powell in his article today was also unnecessary.
I think it will be 1-1 personally which is a good result.
The only time any manager has really picked from across the board has been when a foreigner has been in charge Tom, during my lifetime all the English managers have been hard set on picking players from the biggest clubs, encouraged by the press of course.cafctom said:When you combine BOTH club football and international football, Danny Welbeck has only scored 29 career goals. Yet he always seems to start when he is available. If that doesn't tell you that playing for Man United gives you an enormous advantage of getting into the England squad, regardless of ability or form, then I don't know what does.
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I'm an Englishman and i'm proud of that. I therefore support any team that represents England. Even when things aren't going great.
It's a bit like supporting Charlton actually.
A win for England tonight would be fabulous. A draw would be enough.0
