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Gerrard, Lampard or Scholes?

francis4england
francis4england Posts: 421
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Funny debate last night which I reckon went on after the cameras switched off.

Who is your 1,2 and 3?

Mine is:

1. Gerrard
2. Scholes
3. Lampard
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Comments

  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,987
    Such a difficult question as they all offer something different to the other.

    Lampard scores goals for fun. Gerrard carries a team when its playing badly and has a great engine. Scholes cant tackle but his passing is better than the other two.
  • CAFCdamo
    CAFCdamo Posts: 1,692
    edited September 2013
    1.Lampard
    2. Scholes
    3. Gerrard

    It's difficult and I keep changing it around but the amount of goals that Lampard scores is amazing.
  • Folev the red
    Folev the red Posts: 2,087
    I think Lampard's goals are far more important than Scholes' passing or Gerrard's commitment/engine.
    A 1 in 3 record in his time at Chelsea is outrageously good.
    He's played more games than both of them and went nearly 5 seasons without missing a league game for Chelsea. I think i read somewhere that he's only had one season at Chelsea where he played less than 40 games, and he still scored 13 goals.

    Lampard, Gerrard, Scholes.
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,956
    Scholes, Lampard, Gerrard for me - Scholes's all round game (tackling excepted) kept United ticking for over a decade of continual success, no coincidence for me.
  • Red_Raver
    Red_Raver Posts: 467
    Scholes
    Gerrard
    Lampard
  • Elthamaddick
    Elthamaddick Posts: 15,818
    Gerrard, Lampard, Scholes for me.....Gerrard the best all round midfielder in my opinion, almost the complete player. Lampard goal record is unbelievable, Scholes - great player but relied on others more I believe
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,127
    1.Scholes
    2.Gerrard
    3.Lampard

    The trophies speak for themselves.
  • Man_About_Town
    Man_About_Town Posts: 997
    Scholes. The other two aren't in his class. Lampard next due to goal scoring ability. Gerrard third, but his passing range is shocking compared to the other two.
  • tricky
    tricky Posts: 1,291
    Anyone who Xavi thinks has been the best midfielder in the last 15-20 years wins my vote (admittedly from an interview in 2011).

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1355726/Xavi-interview-Paul-Scholes-best-midfielder-20-years.html
  • CAFCdamo
    CAFCdamo Posts: 1,692
    The Red Robin said:

    1.Scholes
    2.Gerrard
    3.Lampard

    The trophies speak for themselves.

    Then arguably Lampard could be above Gerrard

    Lampard :

    FA Premier League (3): 2004–05, 2005–06, 2009–10
    FA Cup (4): 2006–07, 2008–09, 2009–10, 2011–12
    Football League Cup (2): 2004–05, 2006–07
    FA Community Shield (2): 2005, 2009
    UEFA Champions League (1): 2011–12
    UEFA Europa League (1): 2012–13

    Gerrard :

    FA Cup (2): 2000–01, 2005–06
    League Cup (3): 2000–01, 2002–03, 2011–12
    FA Community Shield (2): 2001, 2006
    UEFA Champions League (1): 2004–05
    UEFA Cup (1): 2000–01
    UEFA Super Cup (2): 2001, 2005


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  • Addickforlife
    Addickforlife Posts: 2,101
    Scholes, Gerrard, Lampard
  • bolloxbolder
    bolloxbolder Posts: 7,964
    Scholes number 1 all day long

    (FACT)
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,753
    Lampard
    Gerrard
    Scholes
  • I_Saw_Semedo_Score
    I_Saw_Semedo_Score Posts: 1,632
    Gerrard, Lampard, then Scholes.

    Always noticed Gerrard more than the other two when they've come down The Valley. That said, Lampard has scored enough goals against us over the years.

    All great players.
  • grumpyaddick
    grumpyaddick Posts: 6,596

    1.Gascoigne
    2.Hoddle
    3.Brooking


    Scholes should not be allowed to lace their boots of the above for his "retirement" from international football.

  • Dave2l
    Dave2l Posts: 8,871
    Let's say you played all of them to their strengths for me lampard would be the best player.

    If it was flat 442 and you had the choice to either have one of those 3 players to play alongside a central midfielder such as Vieira in his prime, then I would have Scholes.

    Gerrard is class but his loyalty to Liverpool has cost him and stopped him from being the best midfielder in the world. Not putting that against him, at least he's a one club man even if not as.successful as they could be.

    can't put them in order equally as good for different reasons.
  • JohnBoyUK
    JohnBoyUK Posts: 9,021
    Scholes all day long.

    Carragher must be on crack if he thinks Gerrard is the better player. I nearly choked on my tea when he said that last night.
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,753
    grumpyaddick said:


    1.Gascoigne
    2.Hoddle
    3.Brooking


    Scholes should not be allowed to lace their boots of the above for his "retirement" from international football.

    Agree . And you can lump Shearer in the dumping England thing as well. .
  • francis4england
    francis4england Posts: 421
    JohnBoyUK said:

    Scholes all day long.

    Carragher must be on crack if he thinks Gerrard is the better player. I nearly choked on my tea when he said that last night.

    Gerrard is by far a better all round player, Scholes a great passer but couldnt tackle or head the ball and as a CM they are important attributes to have!
  • Kap10
    Kap10 Posts: 15,576
    The Red Robin said:

    1.Scholes
    2.Gerrard
    3.Lampard

    The trophies speak for themselves.

    This Scholes isn't just a good passer he controlled the midfield and made Man U tick
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  • I_Saw_Semedo_Score
    I_Saw_Semedo_Score Posts: 1,632
    JohnBoyUK said:

    Scholes all day long.

    Carragher must be on crack if he thinks Gerrard is the better player. I nearly choked on my tea when he said that last night.

    Why? Gerrard has more to his game than the other two. He's also played up front, all across the middle and right-back, and never looked uncomfortable.

    Certainly not saying that you're wrong to think Scholes was better - a lot of people do - but it's definitely not as clear-cut as you make out I don't think.
  • JohnBoyUK
    JohnBoyUK Posts: 9,021
    francis4england said:

    JohnBoyUK said:

    Scholes all day long.

    Carragher must be on crack if he thinks Gerrard is the better player. I nearly choked on my tea when he said that last night.

    Gerrard is by far a better all round player, Scholes a great passer but couldnt tackle or head the ball and as a CM they are important attributes to have!
    I'm sorry, I just dont agree. I've seen all three many many times and Scholes was by far the most efficient, intelligent player on the pitch. Mind you, he did have some of them games up against the midfield powerhouses Stephen Clemmence, Michael Brown, Jermaine Jenas, Didier Zokora and Wilson Palacios for the most part ;)

    Spurs could never keep Scholes quiet. You only have to look at the record of United against Spurs in the PL. Lampard and Gerard had the odd decent game against Spurs but are not in same class as Scholes.

    I agree that Gerrard has the better engine of the three and tubby has the better goal scoring record but Scholes kept United ticking over for years.

  • northstandsteve
    northstandsteve Posts: 14,329
    if you asked the midfield of european teams over the last 10 -15 years and I'm talking top quality players, Zidane etc, you would have one answer Paul Scholes end of.The he can't head a ball comment, what rubbish I have seen him ghost in and score many a goal with his head.
  • Paddy Powell
    Paddy Powell Posts: 2,844
    edited September 2013
    Scholes
    Gerrard
    Lampard

    That's not a dig at Lampard or Gerrard (both quality players). They've all got strengths and weaknesses, but I'd take Scholes.

  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,956
    francis4england said:

    JohnBoyUK said:

    Scholes all day long.

    Carragher must be on crack if he thinks Gerrard is the better player. I nearly choked on my tea when he said that last night.

    Gerrard is by far a better all round player, Scholes a great passer but couldnt tackle or head the ball and as a CM they are important attributes to have!
    Iniesta and Xavi can't head or tackle - does that make someone like Gerrard a better player because he can? No.

    Scholes was class.
  • Hornchurch
    Hornchurch Posts: 902
    northstandsteve said:

    if you asked the midfield of european teams over the last 10 -15 years and I'm talking top quality players, Zidane etc, you would have one answer Paul Scholes end of.The he can't head a ball comment, what rubbish I have seen him ghost in and score many a goal with his head.

    Xavi at Barcelona named Scholes as the best midfielder of his generation. Good enough for me.
  • I_Saw_Semedo_Score
    I_Saw_Semedo_Score Posts: 1,632
    Hornchurch said:

    northstandsteve said:

    if you asked the midfield of european teams over the last 10 -15 years and I'm talking top quality players, Zidane etc, you would have one answer Paul Scholes end of.The he can't head a ball comment, what rubbish I have seen him ghost in and score many a goal with his head.

    Xavi at Barcelona named Scholes as the best midfielder of his generation. Good enough for me.
    Conversely, the "best of all time" - Pele - said not so long ago that Gerrard had been the best player in the world for the last five years.

    http://www.skysports.com/story/0,,12016_2379622,00+en-USS_01DBC.html

  • tricky
    tricky Posts: 1,291
    I_Saw_Semedo_Score said:

    Hornchurch said:

    northstandsteve said:

    if you asked the midfield of european teams over the last 10 -15 years and I'm talking top quality players, Zidane etc, you would have one answer Paul Scholes end of.The he can't head a ball comment, what rubbish I have seen him ghost in and score many a goal with his head.

    Xavi at Barcelona named Scholes as the best midfielder of his generation. Good enough for me.
    Conversely, the "best of all time" - Pele - said not so long ago that Gerrard had been the best player in the world for the last five years.

    http://www.skysports.com/story/0,,12016_2379622,00+en-USS_01DBC.html

    Pele also put El Hadji Diouf on a list of the 100 best living footballers not so long ago.

  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,127
    I also seem to remember Rivaldo saying he was the only English player would get anywhere near the Brazil side in 2002.
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,987
    Didnt Pele also say Nicky Butt was his player of the 2006 WC.

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