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Commonwealth Games - English "National Anthem"

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  • Leroy Ambrose
    Leroy Ambrose Posts: 14,440
    LOHAG for me too. I likes me anthems rousing. The Marcha Real is pretty pants, but at least has that slight military quality to it which is at least a little stirring. Jerusalem should be left where it belongs - in church. GSTQ is the worst anthem in the history of the universe.
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,902
    In my book you don't "choose" your team and you certainly don't "choose" your anthem.

    You don't have to like it, agree with the sentiment, or anything like that, but it is what it is.

    That's it.

    (Christ, have I just done what I asked others not to?)
  • redcarter
    redcarter Posts: 1,012
    edited July 2014
    Jerusalem is just great. Makes every English win all the better.

    (Just dragging up a debate from the last time)
  • I_was_Floyd
    I_was_Floyd Posts: 468

    Personally if we're not allowed the Archers theme then I'd opt for 'I vow to thee my country'.

  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 38,004
    I love hearing Jerusalem as our national anthem
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,869
    edited July 2014
    ValleyGary said:

    I love hearing Jerusalem as our national anthem

    Ha, I'm not mad on it. Find it a bit of a dirge and not right that's title is the name of another countries capital.

    I dont there is anything more rousing or 'English' than Land of Hope and Glory, and can't believe so many don't feel the same.

  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,869
    Shit, old thread. Just nervously checked back to see if I completely contradicted myself from 4 years ago.

    No. Phew.
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 38,004
    AFKABartram said:

    ValleyGary said:

    I love hearing Jerusalem as our national anthem

    Ha, I'm not mad on it. Find it a bit of a dirge and not right that's title is the name of another country.

    I dont there is anything more rousing or 'English' than Land of Hope and Glory, and can't believe so many don't feel the same.

    If I saw the English flag being hoisted up to Land of Hope and Glory then I'd probably love that too, but Jerusalem is a lot better than GSTQ, so that's probably why I'm appreciating it so much.
  • Alex Wright
    Alex Wright Posts: 8,214
    should we use the Liberty Bell March?

  • Leroy Ambrose
    Leroy Ambrose Posts: 14,440
    AFKABartram said:

    ValleyGary said:

    I love hearing Jerusalem as our national anthem

    Ha, I'm not mad on it. Find it a bit of a dirge and not right that's title is the name of another country.

    I dont there is anything more rousing or 'English' than Land of Hope and Glory, and can't believe so many don't feel the same.

    Spooky. I just had this exact same conversation on a Facebook thread and totally agree with you. Much as I like Jerusalem, it will always feel like a rugby song to me. LOHAG is the dog's bollocks. It should replace God Save the German/Greek Queen/King ad the British national anthem, never mind the English one.

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  • redcarter
    redcarter Posts: 1,012
    LOHAG feels more British to me. I might be wrong and have missed lyrics.
  • shootershill2tropics
    shootershill2tropics Posts: 662
    deffo land of hope and glory for me, though partial to the pistols version of gstq.
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 38,004
    Don't they sing LOHAG at the proms though and wave those silly little Union Jack flags around?
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,271
    Jeruselum all day but it's a bugger to sing.

    PS. It's a city not a country AFKA
  • redcarter
    redcarter Posts: 1,012
    ValleyGary said:

    Don't they sing LOHAG at the proms though and wave those silly little Union Jack flags around?

    Along with Jerusalem, Rule Britannia and even Auld Lang Syne
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 38,004
    redcarter said:

    ValleyGary said:

    Don't they sing LOHAG at the proms though and wave those silly little Union Jack flags around?

    Along with Jerusalem, Rule Britannia and even Auld Lang Syne
    Fair enough, never watch it just seen clips and they are always singing LOHAG
  • redcarter
    redcarter Posts: 1,012
    ValleyGary said:

    redcarter said:

    ValleyGary said:

    Don't they sing LOHAG at the proms though and wave those silly little Union Jack flags around?

    Along with Jerusalem, Rule Britannia and even Auld Lang Syne
    Fair enough, never watch it just seen clips and they are always singing LOHAG
    The last half hour or so is superb.
  • ozaddick
    ozaddick Posts: 2,852
    I vow to thee my country. Not political, doesn't speak of war, perfect for today's English multicultural society.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,945
    Leroy Ambrose said:

    AFKABartram said:

    ValleyGary said:

    I love hearing Jerusalem as our national anthem

    Ha, I'm not mad on it. Find it a bit of a dirge and not right that's title is the name of another country.

    I dont there is anything more rousing or 'English' than Land of Hope and Glory, and can't believe so many don't feel the same.

    Spooky. I just had this exact same conversation on a Facebook thread and totally agree with you. Much as I like Jerusalem, it will always feel like a rugby song to me. LOHAG is the dog's bollocks. It should replace God Save the German/Greek Queen/King ad the British national anthem, never mind the English one.
    The England cricket team uses Jerusalem as well, so it does have acceptance as an 'English" sporting anthem
  • pickwick
    pickwick Posts: 1,649
    LOHAG and Rule Britannia are songs about Great Britain and not England. Jerusalem is about England hence it's position and adoption by Cricket for a number of years.

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  • pickwick
    pickwick Posts: 1,649
    Oh and as a practically tone deaf person, it really is not a different hymn to sing.
  • cashncarry
    cashncarry Posts: 980
    Love jerusalem ,was my school hymn as well.How about Missed Again by Phil Collins for our English Football anthem
  • magic1999
    magic1999 Posts: 469
    All the other 'Home' nations have their own 'national anthem' and years ago if I am correct Jerusalem was ours but deemed not correct so we were pretty much told to have 'God save the Queen' same as the St Georges Flag it brings up empire building which was politically incorrect. something like that anyway
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,068
    edited July 2014
    magic1999 said:

    All the other 'Home' nations have their own 'national anthem' and years ago if I am correct Jerusalem was ours but deemed not correct so we were pretty much told to have 'God save the Queen' same as the St Georges Flag it brings up empire building which was politically incorrect. something like that anyway

    I don't think you are correct. I would imagine the British flag (given it was the British Empire) and a song dedicated to the nominal "emperor" of that empire are probably more closely associated with "empire building".
  • charltonkeston
    charltonkeston Posts: 7,372
    killerandflash said:

    Leroy Ambrose said:

    AFKABartram said:

    ValleyGary said:

    I love hearing Jerusalem as our national anthem

    Ha, I'm not mad on it. Find it a bit of a dirge and not right that's title is the name of another country.

    I dont there is anything more rousing or 'English' than Land of Hope and Glory, and can't believe so many don't feel the same.

    Spooky. I just had this exact same conversation on a Facebook thread and totally agree with you. Much as I like Jerusalem, it will always feel like a rugby song to me. LOHAG is the dog's bollocks. It should replace God Save the German/Greek Queen/King ad the British national anthem, never mind the English one.
    The England cricket team uses Jerusalem as well, so it does have acceptance as an 'English" sporting anthem
    I wonder how the Welsh feel about that?
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,328
    Jerusalem was my schools song, and when sung well is a properly good anthem for a country, and land of hope and glory is excellent too, both are much better and more rousing than god save the Queen
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,068
    charltonkeston said:

    killerandflash said:

    Leroy Ambrose said:

    AFKABartram said:

    ValleyGary said:

    I love hearing Jerusalem as our national anthem

    Ha, I'm not mad on it. Find it a bit of a dirge and not right that's title is the name of another country.

    I dont there is anything more rousing or 'English' than Land of Hope and Glory, and can't believe so many don't feel the same.

    Spooky. I just had this exact same conversation on a Facebook thread and totally agree with you. Much as I like Jerusalem, it will always feel like a rugby song to me. LOHAG is the dog's bollocks. It should replace God Save the German/Greek Queen/King ad the British national anthem, never mind the English one.
    The England cricket team uses Jerusalem as well, so it does have acceptance as an 'English" sporting anthem
    I wonder how the Welsh feel about that?
    Or the South Africans !
  • SE7toSG3
    SE7toSG3 Posts: 3,140
    ozaddick said:

    I vow to thee my country. Not political, doesn't speak of war, perfect for today's English multicultural society.

    It doesnt obviously mention war Oz Addick as they usually only play the first verse but was written by Cecil Spring Rice, as a memorial to the sacrifice in the Great War after his younger brother Lt Spring Rice was killed just before the Somme whilst serving with the 11th (Lonsdales) Border Regt.

  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,432
    Just realised LOHAG = land of hope and glory.

    Was thinking why do they want a welsh named song for a national anthem?
  • sillav nitram
    sillav nitram Posts: 10,170
    good on them.

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