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Come in No 4 your time is up! (Ed. Page 33 - Jackson signs new contract to 2023)

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  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,168
    Garrymanilow said:

    Jarman said:

    He's not good enough for this division. And he is not good enough to captain this club.
    League one, yes he was perfect.
    Now? no way.

    Ok, I get how people question his performances but how the hell can you question his captain credentials? That man dragged us through more important results last season than anyone else. Important goals and strong performances when we're really under the cosh. Even now, not on his best form and getting older he'll be the one who plays in a great pass, like at Wigan or scores a last minute equaliser like against Ipswich. The man works himself into the ground for Charlton, you can see how much it means to him on his face, and there's no-one better to captain the team. He might not be the best player in our team anymore but there's no reason he shouldn't be captain of the club
    To reiterate. Never write the man off
  • AdTheAddicK
    AdTheAddicK Posts: 3,379
    Fair play @garrymanilow
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,845
    There was a thread like this running last year. Every time he had a bad game people would come out the woodwork again to slag him off.

    Then he would do something that made them look foolish.

    It seems some people never learn.
  • jackmasterflash
    jackmasterflash Posts: 569
    he isn't as good as he was but he is vital to us. help him captain this new younger team.
  • Mendonca In Asdas
    Mendonca In Asdas Posts: 22,650
    Certainly popped up today at a crucial time.
  • Red_Pete_in_Dubai
    Red_Pete_in_Dubai Posts: 2,764
    He delivered a true captain's performance today & covered every single blade of grass. He was immense & was certainly my MOTM.
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,255
    I stand and stick by my earlier statement, but right place, right time today and fair play to JJ. That's what he showed in our league one winning season and throughout last year, and if he can keep doing that in the remaining 17 games he has a role to play.

    Happy to eat my humble pie (for now)

    ;-)
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,844
    JJ now has 43 goals for the club, he's been amazingly prolific for us, when you consider his lack of goals elsewhere. Hopefully he can reach his half century this season :-)
  • PL54
    PL54 Posts: 10,757
    How did he do before the goal ?
  • Fanny Fanackapan
    Fanny Fanackapan Posts: 18,737
    Leave Captain Fantastic out of the eleven at your peril !

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  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    Fanny Fanackapan said:

    Leave Captain Fantastic out of the eleven at your peril !

    Jackson, Cousins, Poyet, Ajdarevic, and presumably two more loans on the way.

    Tough call eh ?

  • Darty Valiant
    Darty Valiant Posts: 618
    Still loads to offer the team. Great leader. Never hides. Sign him up for next year. Amen.
  • Carter
    Carter Posts: 14,243
    killerandflash said:

    JJ now has 43 goals for the club, he's been amazingly prolific for us, when you consider his lack of goals elsewhere. Hopefully he can reach his half century this season :-)


    Fantastic record, if he's fit he starts simple as

    Tell me the other goal threat besides him
  • C_A_F_C
    C_A_F_C Posts: 3,866
    Jacko is our top goalscorer of the 21st century.
  • sirjohnhumphrey
    sirjohnhumphrey Posts: 1,859
    PL54 said:

    How did he do before the goal ?

    Defended, harried, cajoled, tackled, motivated, advised, closed down, supported, inspired, led and then......

    Scored
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,314
    yeah we need to have this conversation again
  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,344
    Leuth said:

    yeah we need to have this conversation again

    Do we, we are still unbeaten, do we really need to start slagging first team players off
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,977
    paulie8290 said:

    Leuth said:

    yeah we need to have this conversation again

    Do we, we are still unbeaten, do we really need to start slagging first team players off
    When they are ineffective, again, yes.

    Teams know to get tight on Igor and Yoni so we need other players to show they can cause problems. Jacko was completely anonymous today apart from almost giving away a penno.

    We looked so much better when he went off and cousins went central
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,314
    I'm not slagging anyone off. Jackson is a hero of the club, a wonderful captain and a superb human. He is also a fading force as a footballer and is plainly not up to the standard of the rest of the team. It is a sad situation and either resolution is unsatisfactory - the dilemma is made harder by the fact we are unbeaten, because it is often said that selection consistency when playing well is necessary.
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 10,934
    No goals all season, hardly any attempts at goal, doesn't seem to be taking our set pieces, doesn't drive with pace through the middle, gets caught on the ball, passes backwards too much. And too slow

    Positives - good influence on the young players (but he can do that from the bench).

    I can't think of a way anyone can argue he deserves his place in the midfield at present. He needs a rest and then we can see where we are without him. Maybe he will come back and have more influence but for now, cousins offers more in the middle.
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  • Valiantphil
    Valiantphil Posts: 6,410
    Jacko is the glue that holds it all together.
    Unbeaten at the end of September (after that crap season last year).
    Love Jacko to bits.
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,314
    I hate to break it to you, but Bikey, Buyens and Ben Haim are the glue that holds it all together this season
  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,309
    Valiantphil said:

    Jacko is the glue that holds it all together.
    Unbeaten at the end of September (after that crap season last year).
    Love Jacko to bits.

    Perhaps its time to change glue
  • Valiantphil
    Valiantphil Posts: 6,410
    Well Buyens wants to put some on his boots then - spent more time on his arse than feet today.
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 10,934
    Valiantphil said:

    Jacko is the glue that holds it all together.
    Unbeaten at the end of September (after that crap season last year).
    Love Jacko to bits.

    Valiantphil said:

    Jacko is the glue that holds it all together.
    Unbeaten at the end of September (after that crap season last year).
    Love Jacko to bits.

    Valiantphil said:

    Jacko is the glue that holds it all together.
    Unbeaten at the end of September (after that crap season last year).
    Love Jacko to bits.

    Valiantphil said:

    Jacko is the glue that holds it all together.
    Unbeaten at the end of September (after that crap season last year).
    Love Jacko to bits.

    He runs and moves like he is stuck in glue. That's about it.

    You seriously didn't see the difference with Cousins in the middle?

    It reminds me of Colin Walsh towards the end of his career.
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,314
    Put some glue on his boots? Your head's gone mate :)
  • WSS
    WSS Posts: 25,070
    People never learn do they. Lol.
  • RedPanda
    RedPanda Posts: 4,986
    When everyone writes him off is when he goes and shuts everyone up. Could be worth a few quid on him to score on Tuesday.
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 10,934
    WSS said:

    People never learn do they. Lol.

    Thing is he could carry on for another 2 months like he has been. Then nick a goal and people will say 'told you so'. But that won't be enough.

    2 years ago Jacko was a decent champ player. He can't carry on forever. At some point people have to let him go.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,221
    Not the worse centre mid today.

    Buyens had a mare but JJ is an easy target.

    Cousins was my MOTM today but he, and Charlton, started to look more balanced long before JJ went off.

    Cousins and JBG switched wings at about the 25 minute stage and JC looked far more comfortable.

    2nd half the whole team and JJ tried to attack more and it showed. Buyens was still poor (yes he was. He's been good in other games but not today).

    Subbing the ageing JJ was a logical move and we continued to play well.

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