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Why hate Palace?

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  • leftbehind
    leftbehind Posts: 8,581
    Why Not?
  • Stu_of_Kunming
    Stu_of_Kunming Posts: 17,118
    [cite]Posted By: budgie[/cite]But certainly among the younger elements of Palace fans upto those in there early twenties Charlton are definately considered to be the main rivals, and indeed there is a hatred shown by tnem, if that makes you feel better.


    I don't give a s*** what a bunch of nigels think about us.
  • budgie
    budgie Posts: 633
    [cite]Posted By: Stu of SE7[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: budgie[/cite]But certainly among the younger elements of Palace fans upto those in there early twenties Charlton are definately considered to be the main rivals, and indeed there is a hatred shown by tnem, if that makes you feel better.


    I don't give a s*** what a bunch of nigels think about us.

    You must be in a minority then, I thought the general concensus was that a lot of Charlton fans held Palace fans in contempt, because they wouldn't admit to a feeling of rivalry.
  • Alex Wright
    Alex Wright Posts: 8,214
    Yaaaaawwwwnnnnn.
  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 9,753
    [cite]Posted By: jimmymelrose[/cite]
    Historically Millwall are our rivals and just because they're crap at the moment, everyone seems to have forgotten about them. But one day they will be back and then we'll remember what is worth 'hating'

    Bump!

    So, they will be back in 7 days.

    After that, how many will have changed their opinion?
  • Six-a-bag-of-nuts
    Six-a-bag-of-nuts Posts: 8,127
    [cite]Posted By: BlackForestReds[/cite]

    As for Jordan, I have no doubts that he has Palace's best interests at heart and is determined to see Premiership football at Selhurst, renovate the ground and give you guys a team you can be proud of again.

    However I question his business sense and whether his desire for fame, ie his ego, will ultimately cost him these objectives. He seems to enjoy rubbing people up the wrong way and perhaps those Observer articles and the comments aimed at us for being "morons and imbeciles" demonstrate to me that maybe he is too much of a fan, and not enough of a diplomat and businessman. His ego also made him participate in a bizarre press conference where he claimed to hold the freehold, when that was palpably untrue, I just wonder that while he saved your club a few years ago whether he has the nous to do what is necessary which means surrendering some control of the running of the club, and maybe also some part of the ownership to someone who can unite the club and ground and then find the necessary finances to rebuild Selhurst, or take Palace to a new ground. What seems evident is that he doesn't have the money to buy the freehold and understandably if he has the money, he isn't going to invest in the ground until the ownership is resolved.

    Sooner or later he might find himself running out of money and then you'll find that his priority will be number one - fair enough, in the meantime his ego might not allow him to lose face and get someone in who will manage the club and/or invest in it. In fact I think his style will actively dissuade investors, while he may have saved Palace, he may well end up leaving you in just a desperate position as the club was when he bought it. On the other hand who knows? Promotion and Premiership money might solve all these problems.

    What an astonishingly prophetic post BFR.
  • aliwibble
    aliwibble Posts: 26,299
    I wonder whether Budgie has changed his opinion of Tangoman since?
  • pshrimpt
    pshrimpt Posts: 200
    Never had a problem with Palace, they just took advantage of a bad situation for us. The BIG one is Millwall and always will be, although i don't hate them, footballs only a game when all is said and done.
  • ChicagoAddick
    ChicagoAddick Posts: 4,393
    edited December 2009
    [cite]Posted By: jimmymelrose[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: jimmymelrose[/cite]
    Historically Millwall are our rivals and just because they're crap at the moment, everyone seems to have forgotten about them. But one day they will be back and then we'll remember what is worth 'hating'

    Bump!

    So, they will be back in 7 days.

    After that, how many will have changed their opinion?
    Already feel more anxious than I would a week before any Palace game. A horrible reminder of what life used to be like. Millwall will always be our rivals.
  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 9,753
    A friend of mine actually asked me this question this weekend and I was surprised to find that I started this thread, and even more surprised to find that it was a genuine question.

    There are a lot of reasons I gave him that didn't exist in 2008. I suppose that you could argue that jealousy comes into it but I'm not sure. Isn't it more that if they were languishing like us in the 3rd division that we wouldn't have their nonsense put in front of us on TV all the time and so we would be quite unaware of it?
    I don't like the use of hate but these are new and relevant reasons to have an immense dislike of Palarse, especially number 3, my god:

    1. Pom pom girls
    2. Parading a living creature around the pitch. 
    3. The 1861 claim (https://forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/88849/englands-oldest-league-football-club-crystal-palace)
    4. Trying to introduce 'ultra' culture to English football 

    Fulham were pants, btw😉

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  • SantaClaus
    SantaClaus Posts: 7,658
    Forget Palace I'm all about hating Bromley now. 
  • swords_alive
    swords_alive Posts: 4,272
    I met a lady with her son and granddaughter for their first ever match at the Valley on Saturday before the game v Huddersfield. She'd been going to palace for over 50 years. Cafc had a gift waiting for her granddaughter at her seat as it was their first game. Nice touch I thought and I hoped she wasn't wearing any palace paraphernalia. 

     She said they couldn't get tickets for their match at Fulham. Given she was friendly and probably going to talk to others that day i opted to tell her of the rivalry our fans felt. I found myself a bit embarrassed but felt obliged as she was friendly.

    I pointed out it was a generational thing as millwall were also a traditional rivalry for us. It was all news to her and she was surprised as had only thought of Brighton as a rival of any significance. I said it was probably mostly one way. Naturally my instinct was to track down her son and offer him a row to the death but I had better things to do at the time.
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,331
    Because the music stopped when they had a seat, and all the other chairs got removed. Fuck them forever
  • ct_addick
    ct_addick Posts: 4,336
    Because they claim to be Sarf London but are really Surrey
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,280
    Stripey, muggy, spotty, black-clad, choreographed hand-waving, virgin wankers

    That's why
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,047
    ct_addick said:
    Because they claim to be Sarf London but are really Surrey
    The “South London and Proud” really, completely irrationally, drives me mad. It’s so “try hard”. 

    Anyway, Palace are much worse than Millwall, it’s not even close. 
  • sm
    sm Posts: 2,960
    Why not?
  • thickandthin63
    thickandthin63 Posts: 2,957
    Whether you hate them or not,I wish our club had been run as well as theirs over the last few years.
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  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,956
    se9addick said:
    ct_addick said:
    Because they claim to be Sarf London but are really Surrey
    The “South London and Proud” really, completely irrationally, drives me mad. It’s so “try hard”. 

    Anyway, Palace are much worse than Millwall, it’s not even close. 
    'Tryhards' sums them up - pretend to have a foreign-type ultra culture they haven't, pretend to be older than they are (to have that date of an amateur club who had a similar name on your official badge is bizarre and pathetic), try to be like other clubs by copying their colours or nicknames, try to convince everyone they're in South London, try to pretend the weird crappy rivalry with Brighton is more of a thing than it is.
  • Athletico Charlton
    Athletico Charlton Posts: 14,280
    It's amusing that the "oldest club" in English football had to fabricate the saddest rivalry in football with a club absolutely miles away, because no one else really gave a shit about them.

  • tangoflash
    tangoflash Posts: 10,785
    I've had 17 years to calm down since your original post........ and I still agree with pretty much everything @bobmonroe has posted above. 
  • Briston_Addick
    Briston_Addick Posts: 11,736
    bobmunro said:
    Shit stadium in a shit area of Surrey, obnoxious plastic fans, stupid kit, London wannabees, ultra bollocks, took us to the cleaners when playing there, biggest rivals are the thick end of 50 miles away. South London my arse. Oldest club bollocks as well - what the f*ck has the Crystal Palace Company works team got to do the the Palace of today? The Royal Arsenal was founded in the sixteenth century - I wonder if they had a works team?

    Millwall are rivals based on geography and we live with their fans in our everday lives, and within our families and friends (my wife's family are all Millwall but that will be replicated throughout many families in pwoppa south London). I always want Millwall to lose (unless playing Palace) but I don't really hate them. 

    But apart from that?

    bobmunro said:

    I truly hate everything about the stripey c*nts.

    Always good to hear the HR angle.

    ;)
  • IdleHans
    IdleHans Posts: 10,971
    edited March 31
    Spot on Bob. I'm no friend of Millwall but at least they are a real club, unlike the Croydon upstarts, whose records should be expunged entirely from history. If you're ever in doubt, just think back to Pardoo's Wembley 'dance'.

    (Really I just wanted to use the word expunged).

  • SuedeAdidas
    SuedeAdidas Posts: 7,743
    jimmymelrose said:
    A friend of mine actually asked me this question this weekend and I was surprised to find that I started this thread, and even more surprised to find that it was a genuine question.

    There are a lot of reasons I gave him that didn't exist in 2008. I suppose that you could argue that jealousy comes into it but I'm not sure. Isn't it more that if they were languishing like us in the 3rd division that we wouldn't have their nonsense put in front of us on TV all the time and so we would be quite unaware of it?
    I don't like the use of hate but these are new and relevant reasons to have an immense dislike of Palarse, especially number 3, my god:

    1. Pom pom girls
    2. Parading a living creature around the pitch. 
    3. The 1861 claim (https://forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/88849/englands-oldest-league-football-club-crystal-palace)
    4. Trying to introduce 'ultra' culture to English football 

    Fulham were pants, btw😉

    1 and 2 are the same aren’t they?
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,956
    The other funny thing about the 1861 lie means it'd just be 164 years of winning f**k all rather than 120 years of winning f**k all.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,384
    This sums them up.

    https://x.com/jimmyyy_____/status/1422647721303937030?s=46&t=A-w3Eq0EWWpjMxring904Q
  • charlton_hero
    charlton_hero Posts: 4,668
    https://www.newsshopper.co.uk/news/3954792.sydenham-crystal-palace-football-hooligans-jailed-for-train-violence/
  • redbuttle
    redbuttle Posts: 1,983
    bobmunro said:
    Shit stadium in a shit area of Surrey, obnoxious plastic fans, stupid kit, London wannabees, ultra bollocks, took us to the cleaners when playing there, biggest rivals are the thick end of 50 miles away. South London my arse. Oldest club bollocks as well - what the f*ck has the Crystal Palace Company works team got to do the the Palace of today? The Royal Arsenal was founded in the sixteenth century - I wonder if they had a works team?

    Millwall are rivals based on geography and we live with their fans in our everday lives, and within our families and friends (my wife's family are all Millwall but that will be replicated throughout many families in pwoppa south London). I always want Millwall to lose (unless playing Palace) but I don't really hate them. 

    I truly hate everything about the stripey c*nts.

    That enough for you, Jimmy?
    Exactly how I feel.

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