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Don't think anyone's responded to you mate, he's in New York.PL54 said:
Why is he putting that shit out at 1.30 in the morning ?Callumcafc said:Jimmy Stone @JimmyStone_ 8m8 minutes ago
Among the many things forced on CP during the last few weeks of his time as #cafc manager was a sports psychologist favoured by RD. #cafc
Jimmy Stone @JimmyStone_ 7m7 minutes ago
After interviewing staff and players I was told by more than one person that he 'threw CP under the bus'. Good news - he's back. #cafc3 -
Perhaps the latest information is simply a reaction to the latest events. If the psychologist is now being rushed back then the twitting is suitable for this moment, the post about Guy Luzon 'arm twisting' happened at his appointment/work permit time, not at a time that was unrelated to current affairs.0
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I agree I that I'd rather see a longer article as opposed to tweets.
But that MY preferred style but maybe not Jimmy's.
The tweet is by its nature short and of the moment so can give an instant take on a currently developing situation ie the trick cyclist has returned.
Not everyone is Grapevine : - ) or likes to read long articles especially on a PC or phone.
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Assume Jimmy won't be wanting a reference from his previous employer then?
Whilst it doesn't make great reading the piece meal nature of what he is doing really irks.
It feels like someone with an ax to grind getting pissed and venting on Social Media.2 -
I think it's all quite staged if I am honest might not sit well with some
But a few words on forums that breed a different opinion to that held by others and then outcomes a drip feed of info to reignite the fire,
Cheap and lousy and loses the message, causing damage to the source and it's credibility
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The sports psychologist is back at Charlton.
Look into my eyes, look into my eyes, the eyes, the eyes, not around my eyes, look into my eyes, you're under.
Ok, Roland Duchatelet is a genius and Guy Luzon is the best coach in the world.
All the players here are brilliant and you're gonna win all your games.
Three, two, one, you're back in the room.14 -
It may not be his preferred style, but what are we actually finding out here? These are basically sound bites which don't actually tell us much at all. At a time when people are calling for the club to communicate with the fans properly, we are seeing tweets from a former employee who clearly has some info yet isn't willing to share it fully. To me it just looks like shit stirring as he knows that many of the fans are unhappy. This type of thing leads to more speculation and the fans end up inventing more scenarios about what's going on. We need proper communication, from everyone who is willing to speak up. At least then we can build a more realistic picture of what's happening to the club.Henry Irving said:I agree I that I'd rather see a longer article as opposed to tweets.
But that MY preferred style but maybe not Jimmy's.
The tweet is by its nature short and of the moment so can give an instant take on a currently developing situation ie the trick cyclist has returned.
Not everyone is Grapevine : - ) or likes to read long articles especially on a PC or phone.
Carry on Jimmy
I'd rather he said nothing at all than keep teasing us with these titbits.3 -
Unfortunately, free speech at CAFC was banned under Slater & Jimenez. Anyone doing so gets "taken out."WestCountryAddick said:
It may not be his preferred style, but what are we actually finding out here? These are basically sound bites which don't actually tell us much at all. At a time when people are calling for the club to communicate with the fans properly, we are seeing tweets from a former employee who clearly has some info yet isn't willing to share it fully. To me it just looks like shit stirring as he knows that many of the fans are unhappy. This type of thing leads to more speculation and the fans end up inventing more scenarios about what's going on. We need proper communication, from everyone who is willing to speak up. At least then we can build a more realistic picture of what's happening to the club.Henry Irving said:I agree I that I'd rather see a longer article as opposed to tweets.
But that MY preferred style but maybe not Jimmy's.
The tweet is by its nature short and of the moment so can give an instant take on a currently developing situation ie the trick cyclist has returned.
Not everyone is Grapevine : - ) or likes to read long articles especially on a PC or phone.
Carry on Jimmy
I'd rather he said nothing at all than keep teasing us with these titbits.1 -
It's Twitter. People react to things that happen in the world by sharing their experiences/opinions on it. As Jimmy has done.
There's no innuendo or suggestion, just shared knowledge of direct experience.
Yet apparently it's not acceptable unless it's a full dossier detailing every experience he's ever had with RD in full.24 -
It's being orchestrated 100% it will be denied but there's a method behind it, all of it could have come out at the same time weeks ago2
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I understand fully how twitter works, but without context or detail it's very difficult to ascertain whether this information even has any credibility. I'm not asking for a dossier on all of his experiences, but it would be nice if he would give some clarity to the few points that he has been compelled to tweet about.0
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anyway know if Jimmy will be at the meeting?
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I'm pleased that RD see's the value's in psychological assessments - disappointed that assessment is being carried on the wrong individual(s)
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How could this have come out weeks ago when clearly Jimmy has either just found out this new information, or it has only just happened.nth london addick said:It's being orchestrated 100% it will be denied but there's a method behind it, all of it could have come out at the same time weeks ago
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the message is right the delivery flawed1
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Why? Jimmy tweeted some of his (well informed) thoughts last week. Now some new information has come to him and he has tweeted it as well.nth london addick said:the message is right the delivery flawed
Don't really understand all the shooting the messenger, conspiracy theories about how he delivers the message etc.
Seems very simple to me. Jimmy is a Charlton fan that used to work for the club. Like many of us, he doesn't like what is going on at the club. Unlike many of us, he actually has seen a lot of what we don't like at first hand, and now he does not work for the club, is passing that info on.17 -
He's not claiming it's new information though. He's saying he knew at the time.Addickforlife said:
Why? Jimmy tweeted some of his (well informed) thoughts last week. Now some new information has come to him and he has tweeted it as well.nth london addick said:the message is right the delivery flawed
Don't really understand all the shooting the messenger, conspiracy theories about how he delivers the message etc.
Seems very simple to me. Jimmy is a Charlton fan that used to work for the club. Like many of us, he doesn't like what is going on at the club. Unlike many of us, he actually has seen a lot of what we don't like at first hand, and is now he does not work for the club, is passing that info on.0 -
But what is he passing on? The 'thrown under a bus' business just throws up more questions, as does the 'Duchatelet doesn't care about winning' tweet. These things do not tell us anything at all. I would encourage any kind of information sharing, but why does he have to be so cryptic?Addickforlife said:
Why? Jimmy tweeted some of his (well informed) thoughts last week. Now some new information has come to him and he has tweeted it as well.nth london addick said:the message is right the delivery flawed
Don't really understand all the shooting the messenger, conspiracy theories about how he delivers the message etc.
Seems very simple to me. Jimmy is a Charlton fan that used to work for the club. Like many of us, he doesn't like what is going on at the club. Unlike many of us, he actually has seen a lot of what we don't like at first hand, and is now he does not work for the club, is passing that info on.1 -
Well not really. He clearly has just found out this psychologist is back at the club and has let us know.The Red Robin said:
He's not claiming it's new information though. He's saying he knew at the time.Addickforlife said:
Why? Jimmy tweeted some of his (well informed) thoughts last week. Now some new information has come to him and he has tweeted it as well.nth london addick said:the message is right the delivery flawed
Don't really understand all the shooting the messenger, conspiracy theories about how he delivers the message etc.
Seems very simple to me. Jimmy is a Charlton fan that used to work for the club. Like many of us, he doesn't like what is going on at the club. Unlike many of us, he actually has seen a lot of what we don't like at first hand, and is now he does not work for the club, is passing that info on.1 -
It's the quotes he is reporting that are "cryptic" (although the use of that word here is frankly ridiculous) not his tweets. Any elaboration on what RD has said to him in that instance would simply be his own opinion.WestCountryAddick said:
But what is he passing on? The 'thrown under a bus' business just throws up more questions, as does the 'Duchatelet doesn't care about winning' tweet. These things do not tell us anything at all. I would encourage any kind of information sharing, but why does he have to be so cryptic?Addickforlife said:
Why? Jimmy tweeted some of his (well informed) thoughts last week. Now some new information has come to him and he has tweeted it as well.nth london addick said:the message is right the delivery flawed
Don't really understand all the shooting the messenger, conspiracy theories about how he delivers the message etc.
Seems very simple to me. Jimmy is a Charlton fan that used to work for the club. Like many of us, he doesn't like what is going on at the club. Unlike many of us, he actually has seen a lot of what we don't like at first hand, and is now he does not work for the club, is passing that info on.
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As I've already stated, without context, these quotes are completely pointless, and it just looks like he is shit stirring in my opinion.ValleyTalkBlog said:
It's the quotes he is reporting that are "cryptic" (although the use of that word here is frankly ridiculous) not his tweets. Any elaboration on what RD has said to him in that instance would simply be his own opinion.WestCountryAddick said:
But what is he passing on? The 'thrown under a bus' business just throws up more questions, as does the 'Duchatelet doesn't care about winning' tweet. These things do not tell us anything at all. I would encourage any kind of information sharing, but why does he have to be so cryptic?Addickforlife said:
Why? Jimmy tweeted some of his (well informed) thoughts last week. Now some new information has come to him and he has tweeted it as well.nth london addick said:the message is right the delivery flawed
Don't really understand all the shooting the messenger, conspiracy theories about how he delivers the message etc.
Seems very simple to me. Jimmy is a Charlton fan that used to work for the club. Like many of us, he doesn't like what is going on at the club. Unlike many of us, he actually has seen a lot of what we don't like at first hand, and is now he does not work for the club, is passing that info on.1 -
I'd rather hear what he's got to say than not and I doubt it's gonna make things any worse than they already are.7
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He probably won't be asking Duchatelet or Meire for a reference, but I'm sire there will be plenty of people who he worked under at CAFC who will give him a good one.Clem_Snide said:Assume Jimmy won't be wanting a reference from his previous employer then?
Whilst it doesn't make great reading the piece meal nature of what he is doing really irks.
It feels like someone with an ax to grind getting pissed and venting on Social Media.
And in response to a few recent posts this isn't 100% orchestrated and he doesn't have an axe to grind. There was no anger behind in his departure on either side, he left to spend more time with his family after 3 years working 6 days a week at Charlton. The tweets are simply a reflection of the fact that now he doesn't work at the club he can bring some insight into the way it has been run under Duchatelet.6 -
But the knew the main part a year ago, i.e. that he was originally brought in to undermine Powell. Which is the only part anyone cares about.Addickforlife said:
Well not really. He clearly has just found out this psychologist is back at the club and has let us know.The Red Robin said:
He's not claiming it's new information though. He's saying he knew at the time.Addickforlife said:
Why? Jimmy tweeted some of his (well informed) thoughts last week. Now some new information has come to him and he has tweeted it as well.nth london addick said:the message is right the delivery flawed
Don't really understand all the shooting the messenger, conspiracy theories about how he delivers the message etc.
Seems very simple to me. Jimmy is a Charlton fan that used to work for the club. Like many of us, he doesn't like what is going on at the club. Unlike many of us, he actually has seen a lot of what we don't like at first hand, and is now he does not work for the club, is passing that info on.0 -
Jimmy was working for Charlton until one month ago. The information is now relevant again now that the psychologist is back at the club.The Red Robin said:
But the knew the main part a year ago, i.e. that he was originally brought in to undermine Powell. Which is the only part anyone cares about.Addickforlife said:
Well not really. He clearly has just found out this psychologist is back at the club and has let us know.The Red Robin said:
He's not claiming it's new information though. He's saying he knew at the time.Addickforlife said:
Why? Jimmy tweeted some of his (well informed) thoughts last week. Now some new information has come to him and he has tweeted it as well.nth london addick said:the message is right the delivery flawed
Don't really understand all the shooting the messenger, conspiracy theories about how he delivers the message etc.
Seems very simple to me. Jimmy is a Charlton fan that used to work for the club. Like many of us, he doesn't like what is going on at the club. Unlike many of us, he actually has seen a lot of what we don't like at first hand, and is now he does not work for the club, is passing that info on.0 -
Struggling to understand how that is cryptic. Seems perfectly obvious to me what Jimmy is telling us.WestCountryAddick said:
But what is he passing on? The 'thrown under a bus' business just throws up more questions, as does the 'Duchatelet doesn't care about winning' tweet. These things do not tell us anything at all. I would encourage any kind of information sharing, but why does he have to be so cryptic?Addickforlife said:
Why? Jimmy tweeted some of his (well informed) thoughts last week. Now some new information has come to him and he has tweeted it as well.nth london addick said:the message is right the delivery flawed
Don't really understand all the shooting the messenger, conspiracy theories about how he delivers the message etc.
Seems very simple to me. Jimmy is a Charlton fan that used to work for the club. Like many of us, he doesn't like what is going on at the club. Unlike many of us, he actually has seen a lot of what we don't like at first hand, and is now he does not work for the club, is passing that info on.
-This psychologist joined the club as another trusted advisor to RD, he obviously reported back to RD about Powell which only helped further undermine Powell eventually leading to his sacking.
-Said psychologist is now back at the club.
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And the 'thrown under a bus' part? There is nothing obvious about that at all.Addickforlife said:
Struggling to understand how that is cryptic. Seems perfectly obvious to me what Jimmy is telling us.WestCountryAddick said:
But what is he passing on? The 'thrown under a bus' business just throws up more questions, as does the 'Duchatelet doesn't care about winning' tweet. These things do not tell us anything at all. I would encourage any kind of information sharing, but why does he have to be so cryptic?Addickforlife said:
Why? Jimmy tweeted some of his (well informed) thoughts last week. Now some new information has come to him and he has tweeted it as well.nth london addick said:the message is right the delivery flawed
Don't really understand all the shooting the messenger, conspiracy theories about how he delivers the message etc.
Seems very simple to me. Jimmy is a Charlton fan that used to work for the club. Like many of us, he doesn't like what is going on at the club. Unlike many of us, he actually has seen a lot of what we don't like at first hand, and is now he does not work for the club, is passing that info on.
-This psychologist joined the club as another trusted advisor to RD, he obviously reported back to RD about Powell which only helped further undermine Powell eventually leading to his sacking.
-Said psychologist is now back at the club.1 -
He's sharing the general impression of a number of staff after they met with the guy. Maybe he doesn't think it right to go into details of how that occurred as it isn't his information to share. The general impression that this guy undermined Powell is the important info surely, not going into exact detail about how he did.WestCountryAddick said:
And the 'thrown under a bus' part? There is nothing obvious about that at all.Addickforlife said:
Struggling to understand how that is cryptic. Seems perfectly obvious to me what Jimmy is telling us.WestCountryAddick said:
But what is he passing on? The 'thrown under a bus' business just throws up more questions, as does the 'Duchatelet doesn't care about winning' tweet. These things do not tell us anything at all. I would encourage any kind of information sharing, but why does he have to be so cryptic?Addickforlife said:
Why? Jimmy tweeted some of his (well informed) thoughts last week. Now some new information has come to him and he has tweeted it as well.nth london addick said:the message is right the delivery flawed
Don't really understand all the shooting the messenger, conspiracy theories about how he delivers the message etc.
Seems very simple to me. Jimmy is a Charlton fan that used to work for the club. Like many of us, he doesn't like what is going on at the club. Unlike many of us, he actually has seen a lot of what we don't like at first hand, and is now he does not work for the club, is passing that info on.
-This psychologist joined the club as another trusted advisor to RD, he obviously reported back to RD about Powell which only helped further undermine Powell eventually leading to his sacking.
-Said psychologist is now back at the club.1 -
We're going around in circles it seems, I've stated exactly why I think context is important here. I'll just leave it
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I'd rather know, than not.14
