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The July Budget

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  • brogib
    brogib Posts: 2,128
    Covered End said:

    SELR_addicks said:

    You can tell which age demographic doesn't vote Tory, under 25s being hit massively with this budget in comparison to everyone else.

    What has he done ?
    Wacked up the tax on Biactol
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,449
    Covered End said:

    SELR_addicks said:

    You can tell which age demographic doesn't vote Tory, under 25s being hit massively with this budget in comparison to everyone else.

    What has he done ?
    Living wage for everyone except the U25s, housing benefit removed for U21s, Student Maintenance grants replaced by more debt, Child tax credits removed, Tax credits cut.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Nothing about creating more homes, but stuff about creating more roads.
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,922
    cafcfan said:

    I'm hoping for a tax on gambling winnings at the punter's marginal rate - this to include the lotteries.
    After all tax is used as a weapon to fight cigarette addiction, right? So why not gambling? It's unearned income isn't it.


    The national lottery is already a tax on the poor, you can't tax the winnings too
  • PL54
    PL54 Posts: 10,757
    SELR_addicks said:

    You can tell which age demographic doesn't vote Tory.

    The lazy one ?
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,922
    £9 ph living wage by 2020, what world are they in ? £9 ph isn't enough now
  • brogib
    brogib Posts: 2,128
    seth plum said:

    Nothing about creating more homes, but stuff about creating more roads.

    Roads have houses on em don't they
  • brogib
    brogib Posts: 2,128
    shine166 said:

    £9 ph living wage by 2020, what world are they in ? £9 ph isn't enough now

    So put it up to 12 ph and the businesses who employ them go tits up then those people enjoying the 12 an hour will be down the big house looking for 150 a fortnight.

    Common sence, simple common sense
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,922
    edited July 2015
    brogib said:

    shine166 said:

    £9 ph living wage by 2020, what world are they in ? £9 ph isn't enough now

    So put it up to 12 ph and the businesses who employ them go tits up then those people enjoying the 12 an hour will be down the big house looking for 150 a fortnight.

    Common sence, simple common sense
    How does Australia survive then ?

    With inflation, the minimum wage would need to be £9 in 2020 anyway.

    What is it they say ?

    Common sense.... Simple common sense

  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,625
    shine166 said:

    brogib said:

    shine166 said:

    £9 ph living wage by 2020, what world are they in ? £9 ph isn't enough now

    So put it up to 12 ph and the businesses who employ them go tits up then those people enjoying the 12 an hour will be down the big house looking for 150 a fortnight.

    Common sence, simple common sense


    With inflation, the minimum wage would need to be £9 in 2020 anyway.

    What is it they say ?

    Common sense.... Simple common sense

    Inflation is running at 0.1%

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  • SantaClaus
    SantaClaus Posts: 7,658
    ShootersHillGuru said:

    shine166 said:

    brogib said:

    shine166 said:

    £9 ph living wage by 2020, what world are they in ? £9 ph isn't enough now

    So put it up to 12 ph and the businesses who employ them go tits up then those people enjoying the 12 an hour will be down the big house looking for 150 a fortnight.

    Common sence, simple common sense


    With inflation, the minimum wage would need to be £9 in 2020 anyway.

    What is it they say ?

    Common sense.... Simple common sense

    Inflation is running at 0.1%

    To be fair the measuring of inflation has been contrived so much that it's virtually meaningless.

  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,922
    ShootersHillGuru said:

    shine166 said:

    brogib said:

    shine166 said:

    £9 ph living wage by 2020, what world are they in ? £9 ph isn't enough now

    So put it up to 12 ph and the businesses who employ them go tits up then those people enjoying the 12 an hour will be down the big house looking for 150 a fortnight.

    Common sence, simple common sense


    With inflation, the minimum wage would need to be £9 in 2020 anyway.

    What is it they say ?

    Common sense.... Simple common sense

    Inflation is running at 0.1%




    So the cost of living will only be 0.01% more expensive in 2020 compared to now ?

  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,661
    SantaClaus said:

    ShootersHillGuru said:

    shine166 said:

    brogib said:

    shine166 said:

    £9 ph living wage by 2020, what world are they in ? £9 ph isn't enough now

    So put it up to 12 ph and the businesses who employ them go tits up then those people enjoying the 12 an hour will be down the big house looking for 150 a fortnight.

    Common sence, simple common sense


    With inflation, the minimum wage would need to be £9 in 2020 anyway.

    What is it they say ?

    Common sense.... Simple common sense

    Inflation is running at 0.1%

    To be fair the measuring of inflation has been contrived so much that it's virtually meaningless.

    This.

    They fanny about with what is and is not included to get the result they want.
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,449
  • brogib
    brogib Posts: 2,128
    shine166 said:

    brogib said:

    shine166 said:

    £9 ph living wage by 2020, what world are they in ? £9 ph isn't enough now

    So put it up to 12 ph and the businesses who employ them go tits up then those people enjoying the 12 an hour will be down the big house looking for 150 a fortnight.

    Common sence, simple common sense
    How does Australia survive then ?

    With inflation, the minimum wage would need to be £9 in 2020 anyway.

    What is it they say ?

    Common sense.... Simple common sense

    Because Australia isn't the UK
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,922
    brogib said:

    shine166 said:

    brogib said:

    shine166 said:

    £9 ph living wage by 2020, what world are they in ? £9 ph isn't enough now

    So put it up to 12 ph and the businesses who employ them go tits up then those people enjoying the 12 an hour will be down the big house looking for 150 a fortnight.

    Common sence, simple common sense
    How does Australia survive then ?

    With inflation, the minimum wage would need to be £9 in 2020 anyway.

    What is it they say ?

    Common sense.... Simple common sense

    Because Australia isn't the UK

    Fuck that's where I've been going wrong, been asking for directions to the Sydney opera house for years and getting nothing but weird looks.

    Would it be wrong to atleast want the same 11% pay rise that the politicians got though ?



  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,372
    Personal allowance and the higher tax bracket have both gone up.

    I'm happy. Nice one Tories.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,010
    edited July 2015
    http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other/pay-rise-for-uk-with-national-living-wage/ar-AAcIhW9
  • sadiejane1981
    sadiejane1981 Posts: 9,012
    brogib said:

    seth plum said:

    Nothing about creating more homes, but stuff about creating more roads.

    Roads have houses on em don't they
    I'm not sure I'd want to live on the m25
  • colthe3rd
    colthe3rd Posts: 8,486
    seth plum said:

    Nothing about creating more homes, but stuff about creating more roads.

    One of those affects Tory voters, the other doesn't.
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  • PL54
    PL54 Posts: 10,757
    Tory voters use roads more than other voters - FACT
  • Fumbluff
    Fumbluff Posts: 10,127
    cafctom said:

    Personal allowance and the higher tax bracket have both gone up.

    I'm happy. Nice one Tories.

    Yeah, did you see by how much and when....don't go out too spendy-spendy tonight to celebrate...
  • IA
    IA Posts: 6,103
    Fumbluff said:

    cafctom said:

    Personal allowance and the higher tax bracket have both gone up.

    I'm happy. Nice one Tories.

    Yeah, did you see by how much and when....don't go out too spendy-spendy tonight to celebrate...
    Oh no! I've already bought a yacht to celebrate.
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,922
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    LoOkOuT Posts: 10,857
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  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    brogib said:

    seth plum said:

    Nothing about creating more homes, but stuff about creating more roads.

    Roads have houses on em don't they
    Yeah, seen 'em lining the M6.

  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456
    SELR_addicks said:

    Talk about a slanted view.

    1% reduction in rent will be balanced out by the 20% plus increase in rents for those earning £30/£40k pa.

    I have no idea where the loss of 4k units comes from, as rental income is only part of the financing of new homes. Funding is all about surplus and how large that is.

  • TelMc32
    TelMc32 Posts: 9,056
    Your Chacellor has just announced a living wage, in 5 years time, which is below that currently available in Scotland and below that agreed by Boris to be needed in London to live now.

    You acknowledge it in a professional manner...



    Or...you act like IDS!
  • Clem_Snide
    Clem_Snide Posts: 11,739
    Addickted said:

    SELR_addicks said:

    Talk about a slanted view.

    1% reduction in rent will be balanced out by the 20% plus increase in rents for those earning £30/£40k pa.

    I have no idea where the loss of 4k units comes from, as rental income is only part of the financing of new homes. Funding is all about surplus and how large that is.

    Hasn't it already been said that the increased rental income will go straight to the exchequer in order to assist with reduction of the deficit?

  • Fiiish
    Fiiish Posts: 7,998
    edited July 2015
    TelMc32 said:

    Your Chacellor has just announced a living wage, in 5 years time, which is below that currently available in Scotland

    There is no statutory living wage in Scotland, or at least one that will differ from the national living wage when this one is introduced, it is not a devolved matter.

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