Bottle thrower
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Does he have anything to do with catering, tickets, programmes, CEO interviews, player sales and acquisitions, the big screen, sponsor's logo, police at Palace, lounges, Sky's choice of games, coaches or Nick Pope?Henry Irving said:
This photo has been put up to IDENTIFY the person.AFKABartram said:It definitely come from the area where that bloke was standing.
I'm guessing here, but for the club to put that out then I reckon they have been given description, seat no of bloke who threw it, might not have cctv evidence of it being thrown, but do have evidence of him drinking bottle before hand.
It seems likely to me that this is the clearest picture they have of the man's face hence why they used it.
That doesn't mean they don't have other film and/or pictures of him throwing a bottle.
Exactly, Mick knows what he is doing.Gumbo said:
Mick Everett has been doing his job for a long time, the club wouldn't just release a photo of the man just because he was having a swing of his cider, they only need to show you his face not him throwing a bottle to identify himGreenie said:
Exactly, where is the evidence that he threw it? I hope the club have the CCTV of the bloke lobbing the bottle, cos all I see is a bloke having crafty swig.PL54 said:Is that a bloke drinking from a beer bottle or throwing a beer bottle ? Are there no images of him throwing it ?
If not then he's in the clear.....but what does he do ?1 -
What is the appropriate and likely punishment for this?
I would have thought someone doing this would be banned from The Valley for life by the club. Does that seem right?1 -
Seems to me a few people on here know who this guy is and are getting his defence in early.
'just a guy drinking, not throwing etc'2 -
AbsolutelyChizz said:What is the appropriate and likely punishment for this?
I would have thought someone doing this would be banned from The Valley for life by the club. Does that seem right?2 -
depends if the police are/get involved.Chizz said:What is the appropriate and likely punishment for this?
I would have thought someone doing this would be banned from The Valley for life by the club. Does that seem right?
it will be a life time ban from the Valley at a minimum but if the police are involved then I believe the punishment for incidents like this in football grounds can range from banning orders for every football ground in England and wales to custodial sentences.1 -
Hang him and be done with it11
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Wouldn't it just be the case of asking Martin if it was the same kind of cider bottle that hit his daughter?1
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Wwooooooaaaaahhhhh, lets not simplify things Terry!Terry Naylor said:Wouldn't it just be the case of asking Martin if it was the same kind of cider bottle that hit his daughter?
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Reckon the bloke would have handed himself in if he hadn't lost his bottle!18
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If we told you we would have to kill you!PL54 said:
Does he have anything to do with catering, tickets, programmes, CEO interviews, player sales and acquisitions, the big screen, sponsor's logo, police at Palace, lounges, Sky's choice of games, coaches or Nick Pope?Henry Irving said:
This photo has been put up to IDENTIFY the person.AFKABartram said:It definitely come from the area where that bloke was standing.
I'm guessing here, but for the club to put that out then I reckon they have been given description, seat no of bloke who threw it, might not have cctv evidence of it being thrown, but do have evidence of him drinking bottle before hand.
It seems likely to me that this is the clearest picture they have of the man's face hence why they used it.
That doesn't mean they don't have other film and/or pictures of him throwing a bottle.
Exactly, Mick knows what he is doing.Gumbo said:
Mick Everett has been doing his job for a long time, the club wouldn't just release a photo of the man just because he was having a swing of his cider, they only need to show you his face not him throwing a bottle to identify himGreenie said:
Exactly, where is the evidence that he threw it? I hope the club have the CCTV of the bloke lobbing the bottle, cos all I see is a bloke having crafty swig.PL54 said:Is that a bloke drinking from a beer bottle or throwing a beer bottle ? Are there no images of him throwing it ?
If not then he's in the clear.....but what does he do ?2 -
Is that right, WTF, thats a pretty big accusation, the intelligent ones are saying that the pic shown is JUST of a fella having a drink, AND lets hope that they have a pic of him actually throwing the bottle. Because that is all the evidence that has been shown. Not 'getting his defence in early', why do people have to stir things up with their 'ideas'.MrOneLung said:Seems to me a few people on here know who this guy is and are getting his defence in early.
'just a guy drinking, not throwing etc'6 -
Some cockwomble on the Facebook page said he hoped nobody would "grass him up" because "we ain't Palace scum".
Some people on this earth absolutely stagger me.17 -
As I stated - it seems to me.Greenie said:
Is that right, WTF, thats a pretty big accusation, the intelligent ones are saying that the pic shown is JUST of a fella having a drink, AND lets hope that they have a pic of him actually throwing the bottle. Because that is all the evidence that has been shown. Not 'getting his defence in early', why do people have to stir things up with their 'ideas'.MrOneLung said:Seems to me a few people on here know who this guy is and are getting his defence in early.
'just a guy drinking, not throwing etc'
My thought is as valid as anyone elses.
Do you think they would really plaster this person over the internet if they didnt have evidence of him throwing the bottle?
Or perhaps he needs to come forward to eliminate himself from the ongoing enquiries then ..1 -
Which is your 'idea'. As I said in my response to your post.MrOneLung said:
As I stated - it seems to me.Greenie said:
Is that right, WTF, thats a pretty big accusation, the intelligent ones are saying that the pic shown is JUST of a fella having a drink, AND lets hope that they have a pic of him actually throwing the bottle. Because that is all the evidence that has been shown. Not 'getting his defence in early', why do people have to stir things up with their 'ideas'.MrOneLung said:Seems to me a few people on here know who this guy is and are getting his defence in early.
'just a guy drinking, not throwing etc'
My thought is as valid as anyone elses.
Do you think they would really plaster this person over the internet if they didnt have evidence of him throwing the bottle?
Or perhaps he needs to come forward to eliminate himself from the ongoing enquiries then ..
Do me a favour!0 -
The whole concept of grassing, telling on somebody and so forth, is a debate in itself.
For a start there are rules and laws people don't agree with, then there is a concept of minding ones own business, not getting involved, loyalty to family or friends or 'tribe'. Fear of reprisals plays a part, and then there is often a scale of offence that people apply as in grass a litterbug no, grass a rapist yeah.
I won't even start on the notion of who does one grass to.
I would say that absolutely everybody would be a grass if the circumstances were appropriate for them.
If your friend was a missile thrower for a laugh as it were, or to defend themselves, or to vent frustration, and the missile scarred a child for life, do you grass them, or say the damage is already done now, grassing won't help anybody, and then keep quiet?0 -
Whether or not it was this person that threw the bottle, the picture seems to show at least one offence taking place under the Sporting Events (Control of Alcohol etc.) Act 1985.
Section 2, paragraph 1, part (a) states: "A person who has intoxicating liquor ... in his possession ...
at any time during the period of a designated sporting event when he is in any area of a designated sports ground from which the event may be directly viewed,... is guilty of an offence". (This part also makes reference to "any article capable of causing injury to a person struck by it, being—
(a) a bottle, can or other portable container (including such an article when crushed or broken) which—
(i)is for holding any drink, and
(ii)is of a kind which, when empty, is normally discarded or returned to, or left to be recovered by, the supplier" - in other words "a bottle" - it doesn't matter what the bottle is made of, or what it contains).
You can't tell from the picture if he is drunk. However, the following might also apply: "A person who is drunk in a designated sports ground at any time during the period of a designated sporting event at that ground or is drunk while entering or trying to enter such a ground at any time during the period of a designated sporting event at that ground is guilty of an offence".
(It's also worth noting that the same Act prohibits anyone in the ground from being in possession of fireworks or flares. However, as the picture doesn't show his trousers, he might be ok on this one).
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Maybe the club just want to let him know he's the winner of a place on the sofa for the next home game?34
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or they found his fags and lighter in the gents and want to return them...DaveMehmet said:Maybe the club just want to let him know he's the winner of a place on the sofa for the next home game?
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Surely, the people around him, who saw him throw the bottle can identify him from the pic, if it is him. This is all you need, do not need to see him throw it on CCTV0
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Someone near him said he was drunk and swearing a lot in the first half - to the extent that they don't even think he's a Charlton fan because he was with a known Millwall fanross1 said:Surely, the people around him, who saw him throw the bottle can identify him from the pic, if it is him. This is all you need, do not need to see him throw it on CCTV
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Circa 20 games a season in the 14 years of being 17+ = 280 games. I have therefore been guilty of approximately 220 offencesChizz said:Whether or not it was this person that threw the bottle, the picture seems to show at least one offence taking place under the Sporting Events (Control of Alcohol etc.) Act 1985.
Section 2, paragraph 1, part (a) states: "A person who has intoxicating liquor ... in his possession ...
at any time during the period of a designated sporting event when he is in any area of a designated sports ground from which the event may be directly viewed,... is guilty of an offence". (This part also makes reference to "any article capable of causing injury to a person struck by it, being—
(a) a bottle, can or other portable container (including such an article when crushed or broken) which—
(i)is for holding any drink, and
(ii)is of a kind which, when empty, is normally discarded or returned to, or left to be recovered by, the supplier" - in other words "a bottle" - it doesn't matter what the bottle is made of, or what it contains).
You can't tell from the picture if he is drunk. However, the following might also apply: "A person who is drunk in a designated sports ground at any time during the period of a designated sporting event at that ground or is drunk while entering or trying to enter such a ground at any time during the period of a designated sporting event at that ground is guilty of an offence".
(It's also worth noting that the same Act prohibits anyone in the ground from being in possession of fireworks or flares. However, as the picture doesn't show his trousers, he might be ok on this one).9 -
Does he have anything to do with catering, tickets, programmes, CEO interviews, player sales and acquisitions, the big screen, sponsor's logo, police at Palace, lounges, Sky's choice of games, coaches or Nick Pope?
If not then he's in the clear.....but what does he do ?
Mick has been at the club for many years, mostly as the operations director, I believe his main role now is to coordinate and run the match day safety operation at the club.
He does this in conjunction with the stadium safety officer John Little.
Both Mick and John are vastly experienced and both are superb at their jobs.
As @Henry Irving stated I would be in no doubt that if the club has released this photo via Mick or John it will be for identification purposes, and certainly wouldn't have been done lightly.
Both Mick & John have great reputations within football generally and Charlton are fortunate to have two such good operators at the club.
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Hell I've probably been accountable for that also at least 100-150 times! Only maybe 50 of those have I been of legal drinking age!
Just kidding but yeah maybe 100-150 times I've been 'intoxicated' at the valley.1 -
So he's responsible for the Stewards....garfield said:Does he have anything to do with catering, tickets, programmes, CEO interviews, player sales and acquisitions, the big screen, sponsor's logo, police at Palace, lounges, Sky's choice of games, coaches or Nick Pope?
If not then he's in the clear.....but what does he do ?
Mick has been at the club for many years, mostly as the operations director, I believe his main role now is to coordinate and run the match day safety operation at the club.
He does this in conjunction with the stadium safety officer John Little.
Both Mick and John are vastly experienced and both are superb at their jobs.
As @Henry Irving stated I would be in no doubt that if the club has released this photo via Mick or John it will be for identification purposes, and certainly wouldn't have been done lightly.
Both Mick & John have great reputations within football generally and Charlton are fortunate to have two such good operators at the club.0 -
Welcome to Charlton Life Mr. Littlegarfield said:Does he have anything to do with catering, tickets, programmes, CEO interviews, player sales and acquisitions, the big screen, sponsor's logo, police at Palace, lounges, Sky's choice of games, coaches or Nick Pope?
If not then he's in the clear.....but what does he do ?
Mick has been at the club for many years, mostly as the operations director, I believe his main role now is to coordinate and run the match day safety operation at the club.
He does this in conjunction with the stadium safety officer John Little.
Both Mick and John are vastly experienced and both are superb at their jobs.
As @Henry Irving stated I would be in no doubt that if the club has released this photo via Mick or John it will be for identification purposes, and certainly wouldn't have been done lightly.
Both Mick & John have great reputations within football generally and Charlton are fortunate to have two such good operators at the club.4 -
So he's responsible for the Stewards....
Amongst numerous other parts of the match day operations yes..........0 -
Mick Everett is one of the good guys.
A true oasis of genuine Charlton amidst the desert of the new regime's stated desire to cleanse and remove Charlton's past and heritage.12
