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Karel Fraeye - 1/2 on SkyBet. Betting now suspended

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  • MartinCAFC
    MartinCAFC Posts: 3,261

    Given this video, why are the odds on him becoming manager lifting? Now 4/9.

    Was 2/5 this morning
    1/10 last night

    If he is given the job as caretaker until the end of the season would Skybet pay out or wait until he was given the job permanently?
  • moleo88
    moleo88 Posts: 303
    ^^ technicalities, if he comes in as caretaker I highly doubt bookies would pay out.
  • roseandcrown
    roseandcrown Posts: 7,593

    Given this video, why are the odds on him becoming manager lifting? Now 4/9.

    Was 2/5 this morning
    1/10 last night

    If he is given the job as caretaker until the end of the season would Skybet pay out or wait until he was given the job permanently?
    They will be too busy laughing at us like everyone else to worry about paying out.
  • cafcnick1992
    cafcnick1992 Posts: 7,491
    Malky now 7/4
  • Oakster
    Oakster Posts: 6,812
    edited October 2015

    I do understand the angst here but I am not sure I can get as animated, not because another no doubt decent moderately ambitious guy waving his UEFA license but with palpably few other credentials will it seems be given an opportunity to be our head coach, but because it is an exercise in futility.

    I am reminded of a scenario from Blackadder. The job is a poisoned chalice. I just need "Queenie" to shout "off with his head" to complete the imagery.

    As I tried to point out yesterday the playing assets acquired by the club and now available to any new coach are not fit for purpose. No self respecting coach will touch SE 7 with a barge pole without cast iron guarantees things will change.

    To be clear the chances of any British appointee are remote. I doubt we would even know who to talk to. Under this regime we have not signed one British player on a permanent contract directly from another British club.

    Of the 45 players currently under contract we have 11 peripheral players out on loan.

    1.Ansah 2. Dmitrovic 3. Harriott 4. Lennon 5. Obileye 6. Parzysek 7. Phillips 8. Piggot 9. Sho Silva 10. Thomas 11.Tucudean

    Of the remaining 34:- 14 have zero to minimal first team experience;

    1. Ahearne-Grant 2. Aribo 3. Barnes 4. Charles - Cook 5. Edwards 6. Hanlon 7. Holmes-Dennis 8. Kelly 9. Kennedy 10. Lapsie 11. Mitov 12. Muldoon 13. Staunton 14. Umerah

    10 others have no long term championship experience (say just 10 games in 2014/15)

    1. Ba 2. Bauer 3. Bergdich 4. Cebellos 5. Ghoochannejhad 6. Sarr 7. Kashi 8. McAleny 9. Makienok 10. Moussa

    which leaves your core championship assets as follows;

    1. Berg Gudmundsson 2. Cousins 3. Diarra 4. Fox 5. Henderson 6. Jackson 7. Pope 8. Solly 9. Vetokele 10. Watt

    Of these;

    Henderson, Vetokele, Jackson and Solly are injury prone.

    Pope, Fox and Watt with one seasons senior football under their belts are still unproven in the Championship.

    Berg Gudmondsson has only 1 season in the Championship

    Diarra, a World Cup Finalist had previously only played 10 games in Championship and never a full season as a central defender

    Jordan Cousins is the main man but because of the successive recruitment campaigns we play him on the left wing.

    As an aside, of this seasons "new boys" Ba, Cebellos, Ghoochannejhad, Makienok and Moussa (yes I know he signed last year) all have recent injury "history" while Kashi has acquired an unknown injury which will keep him unavailable for an unknown period.

    Now you tell me who of the above you want to be representing you in fighting the fight in the heat of a Championship relegation battle.

    Though I agree in normal circumstances such an appointment should be crucial for our future, with this investor and this executive, I suggest the head coach is the least of our problems.

    How many of the current squad played under Riga/Fraeye after poor CP was stabbed in the back by KM & her boss?
  • roseandcrown
    roseandcrown Posts: 7,593
    Oakster said:

    I do understand the angst here but I am not sure I can get as animated, not because another no doubt decent moderately ambitious guy waving his UEFA license but with palpably few other credentials will it seems be given an opportunity to be our head coach, but because it is an exercise in futility.

    I am reminded of a scenario from Blackadder. The job is a poisoned chalice. I just need "Queenie" to shout "off with his head" to complete the imagery.

    As I tried to point out yesterday the playing assets acquired by the club and now available to any new coach are not fit for purpose. No self respecting coach will touch SE 7 with a barge pole without cast iron guarantees things will change.

    To be clear the chances of any British appointee are remote. I doubt we would even know who to talk to. Under this regime we have not signed one British player on a permanent contract directly from another British club.

    Of the 45 players currently under contract we have 11 peripheral players out on loan.

    1.Ansah 2. Dmitrovic 3. Harriott 4. Lennon 5. Obileye 6. Parzysek 7. Phillips 8. Piggot 9. Sho Silva 10. Thomas 11.Tucudean

    Of the remaining 34:- 14 have zero to minimal first team experience;

    1. Ahearne-Grant 2. Aribo 3. Barnes 4. Charles - Cook 5. Edwards 6. Hanlon 7. Holmes-Dennis 8. Kelly 9. Kennedy 10. Lapsie 11. Mitov 12. Muldoon 13. Staunton 14. Umerah

    10 others have no long term championship experience (say just 10 games in 2014/15)

    1. Ba 2. Bauer 3. Bergdich 4. Cebellos 5. Ghoochannejhad 6. Sarr 7. Kashi 8. McAleny 9. Makienok 10. Moussa

    which leaves your core championship assets as follows;

    1. Berg Gudmundsson 2. Cousins 3. Diarra 4. Fox 5. Henderson 6. Jackson 7. Pope 8. Solly 9. Vetokele 10. Watt

    Of these;

    Henderson, Vetokele, Jackson and Solly are injury prone.

    Pope, Fox and Watt with one seasons senior football under their belts are still unproven in the Championship.

    Berg Gudmondsson has only 1 season in the Championship

    Diarra, a World Cup Finalist had previously only played 10 games in Championship and never a full season as a central defender

    Jordan Cousins is the main man but because of the successive recruitment campaigns we play him on the left wing.

    As an aside, of this seasons "new boys" Ba, Cebellos, Ghoochannejhad, Makienok and Moussa (yes I know he signed last year) all have recent injury "history" while Kashi has acquired an unknown injury which will keep him unavailable for an unknown period.

    Now you tell me who of the above you want to be representing you in fighting the fight in the heat of a Championship relegation battle.

    Though I agree in normal circumstances such an appointment should be crucial for our future, with this investor and this executive, I suggest the head coach is the least of our problems.

    How many of the current squad played under Riga/Fraeye after poor CP was stabbed in the back by KM & her boss?
    Jackson, Solly, Fox, Cousins and Harriot.
  • Given this video, why are the odds on him becoming manager lifting? Now 4/9.

    Was 2/5 this morning
    1/10 last night

    I was thinking that

    Given this video, why are the odds on him becoming manager lifting? Now 4/9.

    Was 2/5 this morning
    1/10 last night

    If he is given the job as caretaker until the end of the season would Skybet pay out or wait until he was given the job permanently?
    That is probably the answer
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,153
    I still don't understand why Alcoron get only experienced, Spanish managers under RD and we get these guys ?
  • roseandcrown
    roseandcrown Posts: 7,593
    se9addick said:

    I still don't understand why Alcoron get only experienced, Spanish managers under RD and we get these guys ?

    Maybe because Spanish manages are used to the European model of working as a head coach with owner interference where as British Mangers generally will not accept it.
  • cafcnick1992
    cafcnick1992 Posts: 7,491
    Tim Sherwood is now 2/1 to become Swindon manager...what?

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  • roseandcrown
    roseandcrown Posts: 7,593

    Tim Sherwood is now 2/1 to become Swindon manager...what?

    good mates with the chairman i think.
  • cafcnick1992
    cafcnick1992 Posts: 7,491
    I've just put £100 on Pardew to become next Charlton manager. I'll see all you crazy cats in Vegas.
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 12,026
    Macronate said:

    next strategy..."Target 4,000"

    Many a true word spoke in jest
  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,440
    So, that's good then!

    We now have a coach with a girls name...
  • uie2
    uie2 Posts: 4,596
    Fraeye seems like a decent guy but we all know its hard in this league!!
  • Tutt-Tutt
    Tutt-Tutt Posts: 3,293

    Tim Sherwood is now 2/1 to become Swindon manager...what?

    good mates with the chairman i think.
    Played together at Norwich.
  • This guy will not command any respect from the players. He has no pedigree and would be an absolute joke appointment!

    If we needed further evidence that RD hasn't a scooby then appointing this bloke would be it!

    What a farce and laughing stock this once proud club has become!
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    edited October 2015

    Tim Sherwood is now 2/1 to become Swindon manager...what?

    good mates with the chairman i think.
    Good mates with the chairman.....I've heard that somewhere before, but can't quite put my finger on where?...anyway it's bound to work out (:

    The Swindon chairman should start a network up.
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,296

    Tim Sherwood is now 2/1 to become Swindon manager...what?

    The gunslinger comes to Wiltshire....

    "Swindon lot don't seem to respect you"