This is like when you all thought I was in favour of terrorism...
I like your posts Leuth, and at the risk of being patronising, you appear to have a great education....but sometimes you dont do your self any favours. 2 ears one mouth etc....
I find it utterly bizarre how in this day and age he didn't think about everything being saved for posterity, texts, internet searches etc.
I suppose it's a case of an "When the balls are full, the mind is empty". But disturbingly as an overpaid young bloke with an underage girl.
Can't believe he claimed innocence for so long.
Wasn't it about a year ago that he was accused of getting off with the girl in the nightclub? Why has it taken so long for the trial to actually begin, and taken so long for the actual details of it all to emerge?
Of course it's indefensible. Where have I defended it? I'm making a wider point about exploitation and privilege. This goes beyond paedophilia.
Yes privilege can and does enable exploitation of less privileged people.
Adam Johnson is not an example of that though. He is a paedophile by the definition of the law of the land in that he KNOWINGLY (key word) sexually exploited a starry eyed 15 year old girl with an adolescent crush on him for his own gratification.
By all means discuss privilege and exploitation but don't link it with a calculating, paedophile scumbag like Johnson
Does anyone know if he would have been breaking the law in other countries in the world. (DEFINITELY not trying to defend him - just interested!)
"In Europe, countries who have the age of consent set at 16 include Cyprus, Finland, Georgia, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Norway, and Switzerland.
For Austria, Germany, Portugal and Italy it is 14, and in France, the Czech Republic, Denmark, and Greece it is 15."
These last 2 pages have been great for potential argument alert, and as a thread don't forget I posted very early on my fact about a cat's happiness if they're grooming and washing themselves. It's a winner all round
A Paedophile is someone who's attracted to pre pubescent children, so this doesn't make him a Paedophile a sex offender though he is.
Correct, though the other two scientific terms aren't generally used. From wiki...
Hebephilia is the strong and persistent adult sexual interest in pubescent (early adolescent) individuals, typically ages 11–14 Ephebophilia, which is the strong and persistent sexual interest to those in later adolescence, approximately 15–19 years old
He's as thick as he is sick! 40 odd k a week and he's chasing 15 year olds, wow.
How does your mind work....where is the correlation between money, intelligence and being a paedo?
See above reply by me dinlow.
"Dinlow" great word, not heard it since 1978. I dont remember calling you names sonny boy, where is the correlation between money and birds, or do you live in a world whereby women only go with you for money? Theres a name for those types of women, what was it again....
A Paedophile is someone who's attracted to pre pubescent children, so this doesn't make him a Paedophile a sex offender though he is.
Correct, though the other two scientific terms aren't generally used. From wiki...
Hebephilia is the strong and persistent adult sexual interest in pubescent (early adolescent) individuals, typically ages 11–14 Ephebophilia, which is the strong and persistent sexual interest to those in later adolescence, approximately 15–19 years old
He's as thick as he is sick! 40 odd k a week and he's chasing 15 year olds, wow.
How does your mind work....where is the correlation between money, intelligence and being a paedo?
See above reply by me dinlow.
"Dinlow" great word, not heard it since 1978. I dont remember calling you names sonny boy, where is the correlation between money and birds, or do you live in a world whereby women only go with you for money? Theres a name for those types of women, what was it again....
that's one for the "signs of being an old git" thread
He's as thick as he is sick! 40 odd k a week and he's chasing 15 year olds, wow.
How does your mind work....where is the correlation between money, intelligence and being a paedo?
See above reply by me dinlow.
"Dinlow" great word, not heard it since 1978. I dont remember calling you names sonny boy, where is the correlation between money and birds, or do you live in a world whereby women only go with you for money? Theres a name for those types of women, what was it again....
Didn't call me names no but you're another one who's attempted to mug me up when there's no need for it on such a thread, as I said to someone else on here you can paint it how you want, I know what I meant.
A Paedophile is someone who's attracted to pre pubescent children, so this doesn't make him a Paedophile a sex offender though he is.
Correct, though the other two scientific terms aren't generally used. From wiki...
Hebephilia is the strong and persistent adult sexual interest in pubescent (early adolescent) individuals, typically ages 11–14 Ephebophilia, which is the strong and persistent sexual interest to those in later adolescence, approximately 15–19 years old
This article is from 2006, though I believe the majority is still valid
Sex with an Under 13 is completely illegal and non consensual, with a potential life imprisonment When the victim is 13 or over, but under 16, no offence is committed if the victim consents and the defendant believes, on reasonable grounds, that the child is at least 16.
So if in this case Johnson had believed and had good reason to believe that the victim was 16, then he would have got off. Clearly this wasn't the case.
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I find it utterly bizarre how in this day and age he didn't think about everything being saved for posterity, texts, internet searches etc.
I suppose it's a case of an "When the balls are full, the mind is empty". But disturbingly as an overpaid young bloke with an underage girl.
Can't believe he claimed innocence for so long.
By coincidence Rolf Harris faces more charges...
Adam Johnson is not an example of that though. He is a paedophile by the definition of the law of the land in that he KNOWINGLY (key word) sexually exploited a starry eyed 15 year old girl with an adolescent crush on him for his own gratification.
By all means discuss privilege and exploitation but don't link it with a calculating, paedophile scumbag like Johnson
I think he's suggesting that even if he couldn't get any girl in the world it's absolutely revolting to be saying those things to a 15 year old...
"In Europe, countries who have the age of consent set at 16 include Cyprus, Finland, Georgia, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Norway, and Switzerland.
For Austria, Germany, Portugal and Italy it is 14, and in France, the Czech Republic, Denmark, and Greece it is 15."
There is no 'other side'. He is awful and deserves punishment. But there is a wider point here, think.
Hebephilia is the strong and persistent adult sexual interest in pubescent (early adolescent) individuals, typically ages 11–14
Ephebophilia, which is the strong and persistent sexual interest to those in later adolescence, approximately 15–19 years old
Theres a name for those types of women, what was it again....
Again, not defending the accused........
Where were her parents in all this ?
I AM NOT DEFENDING HIM, JUST A QUESTION.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1534646/What-the-law-says-on-under-age-sex.html
This article is from 2006, though I believe the majority is still valid
Sex with an Under 13 is completely illegal and non consensual, with a potential life imprisonment
When the victim is 13 or over, but under 16, no offence is committed if the victim consents and the defendant believes, on reasonable grounds, that the child is at least 16.
So if in this case Johnson had believed and had good reason to believe that the victim was 16, then he would have got off. Clearly this wasn't the case.