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Blimey.0
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Police shot him dead.7
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Is it me or has the world just gone batshit crazy this year ?0
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Ah yea, but he was of course entitled to be carrying an axe due to the German Constitution...
Flippancy aside, I can't tell whether there are suddenly more maniacs on the rampage now or have they always been around but more publicised in the Information Age.0 -
Imagine what he'd have done if he was using Southeastern.4
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Thankfully they shot the fucka dead, 17 yr old Afghan refugee who arrived in Germany unaccompanied
Nice way to say thanks to a nation who gave you a new start in life you scummy little shit21 -
"A man wielding an axe and a knife has been shot dead after injuring at least four people in a rampage on a train in Germany.
Three of the victims are in a serious condition, while another suffered minor injuries, police spokesman Fabien Hench told Sky News.
Another 14 people are being treated for shock."
Luckily (if you can say that) only 4 people have been injured. Glad he didn't have a gun or bomb.0 -
Hang around, someone sure to tell us it was the Germans fault any minutenth london addick said:Thankfully they shot the fucka dead, 17 yr old Afghan refugee who arrived in Germany unaccompanied
Nice way to say thanks to a nation who gave you a new start in life you scummy little shit3 -
Ties in with the ISIS social media accounts, who in the hours after Nice began sharing images urging attacks on Germany next. Surprised that his ethnicity has been released after the issues in Köln on New Years Eve.nth london addick said:Thankfully they shot the fucka dead, 17 yr old Afghan refugee who arrived in Germany unaccompanied
Nice way to say thanks to a nation who gave you a new start in life you scummy little shit
Incredible that no one has died though. Congratulations due to the German Polizei.0 -
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German efficiency at its' best!ValleyGary said:Police shot him dead.
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Other side of the fence is quiet on this one.nth london addick said:Thankfully they shot the fucka dead, 17 yr old Afghan refugee who arrived in Germany unaccompanied
Nice way to say thanks to a nation who gave you a new start in life you scummy little shit
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Not really a subject for political point scoring CPL, but that happens on both "side[s] of the fence". My personal take on it, as I don't claim to speak for anyone else, is absolute agreement with NLA. But I am still not willing to condemn tens of thousands of other genuine refugees to death because of the actions of one arsehole.9
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Do refugees go through medical screening (including psychological) when entering EU nations?0
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Your probably correct mate and take your point.Algarveaddick said:Not really a subject for political point scoring CPL, but that happens on both "side[s] of the fence". My personal take on it, as I don't claim to speak for anyone else, is absolute agreement with NLA. But I am still not willing to condemn tens of thousands of other genuine refugees to death because of the actions of one arsehole.
However, when there is no proper screening and you know nothing of the peoples background or the torment they've been subjected to then if there was only a 0.5% chance this kind of attack could happen to my children I wouldn't swap their lives for 10'000 others.3 -
Generally speaking, yes, refugees will get some form of check - however, if someone is claiming refugee status the country in which the claim has an obligation to process their application (whether or not the individual is suffering from an illness).ValleyGary said:Do refugees go through medical screening (including psychological) when entering EU nations?
In an ideal world, assuming the individual was suffering from a psychological disorder, he would have been treated and processed in a hospital.0 -
I only ask because these people have been through some heavy shit, i cant imagine the things they've seen, the devastation in their lives, then to travel thousands of miles not knowing where you're gonna end up. The psychological effects must be serious. To just expect them to fit comfortably within a completely new society and get along fine is careless.NornIrishAddick said:
Generally speaking, yes, refugees will get son form of check - however, if someone is claiming refugee status the country in which the claim has an obligation to process their application (whether or not the individual is suffering from an illness).ValleyGary said:Do refugees go through medical screening (including psychological) when entering EU nations?
In an ideal world, assuming the individual was suffering from a psychological disorder, he would have been treated and processed in a hospital.2 -
Particularly so in the case of a child who travels unaccompanied.ValleyGary said:
I only ask because these people have been through some heavy shit, i cant imagine the things they've seen, the devastation in their lives, then to travel thousands of miles not knowing where you're gonna end up. The psychological effects must be serious. To just expect them to fit comfortably within a completely new society and get along fine is careless.NornIrishAddick said:
Generally speaking, yes, refugees will get son form of check - however, if someone is claiming refugee status the country in which the claim has an obligation to process their application (whether or not the individual is suffering from an illness).ValleyGary said:Do refugees go through medical screening (including psychological) when entering EU nations?
In an ideal world, assuming the individual was suffering from a psychological disorder, he would have been treated and processed in a hospital.
With the best will in the world, there are huge difficulties addressing the needs of genuine refugees (because they will be scarred, scared and damaged in many ways).0 -
Do you when you go on holiday ?ValleyGary said:Do refugees go through medical screening (including psychological) when entering EU nations?
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You honestly believe its anything like the same thing??????ShootersHillGuru said:
Do you when you go on holiday ?ValleyGary said:Do refugees go through medical screening (including psychological) when entering EU nations?
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No of course not but how could any mental health screening of refugees be any more worthwhile than screening any traveller. Both would be worthless exercises.ValleyGary said:
You honestly believe its anything like the same thing??????ShootersHillGuru said:
Do you when you go on holiday ?ValleyGary said:Do refugees go through medical screening (including psychological) when entering EU nations?
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These people are coming from war torn countries and a life of severe devastation. Do you not think some sort of psychological examination would be beneficial to not only the refugee themself but also the society of where they will be placed? Do we not do the same with soldiers that have been at war?ShootersHillGuru said:
No of course not but how could any mental health screening of refugees be any more worthwhile than screening any traveller. Both would be worthless exercises.ValleyGary said:
You honestly believe its anything like the same thing??????ShootersHillGuru said:
Do you when you go on holiday ?ValleyGary said:Do refugees go through medical screening (including psychological) when entering EU nations?
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Have you ever been to the United States...? - Completing an ESTA Form your asked the following questions... If you fail any of those I'm guessing your application is instantly rejected by the Computer systemShootersHillGuru said:
Do you when you go on holiday ?ValleyGary said:Do refugees go through medical screening (including psychological) when entering EU nations?
http://hub.unlock.org.uk/knowledgebase/travelling-to-the-usa-the-esta-form-and-moral-turpitude/
Same if you want to go to Australia and am sure there are many other Countries with these sort of restrictions1 -
What we called the four sprung duck technique in my terrorist hunting daysCAFCsayer said:2 -
Come on mate be reasonable. These people's feelings are worth far far more than the lives of the citizens of the countries who take em inValleyGary said:
These people are coming from war torn countries and a life of severe devastation. Do you not think some sort of psychological examination would be beneficial to not only the refugee themself but also the society of where they will be placed? Do we not do the same with soldiers that have been at war?ShootersHillGuru said:
No of course not but how could any mental health screening of refugees be any more worthwhile than screening any traveller. Both would be worthless exercises.ValleyGary said:
You honestly believe its anything like the same thing??????ShootersHillGuru said:
Do you when you go on holiday ?ValleyGary said:Do refugees go through medical screening (including psychological) when entering EU nations?
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With serious head on, briefly, it's not just their feelings Rob It is a matter of life or death for many of them.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
Come on mate be reasonable. These people's feelings are worth far far more than the lives of the citizens of the countries who take em inValleyGary said:
These people are coming from war torn countries and a life of severe devastation. Do you not think some sort of psychological examination would be beneficial to not only the refugee themself but also the society of where they will be placed? Do we not do the same with soldiers that have been at war?ShootersHillGuru said:
No of course not but how could any mental health screening of refugees be any more worthwhile than screening any traveller. Both would be worthless exercises.ValleyGary said:
You honestly believe its anything like the same thing??????ShootersHillGuru said:
Do you when you go on holiday ?ValleyGary said:Do refugees go through medical screening (including psychological) when entering EU nations?
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I don't have kids CPL. So I am not qualified to comment on that point.Charltonparklane said:
Your probably correct mate and take your point.Algarveaddick said:Not really a subject for political point scoring CPL, but that happens on both "side[s] of the fence". My personal take on it, as I don't claim to speak for anyone else, is absolute agreement with NLA. But I am still not willing to condemn tens of thousands of other genuine refugees to death because of the actions of one arsehole.
However, when there is no proper screening and you know nothing of the peoples background or the torment they've been subjected to then if there was only a 0.5% chance this kind of attack could happen to my children I wouldn't swap their lives for 10'000 others.0 -
I doubt any such screening took place when Germany took the 1m in, think about the magnitude of it. Screening 1m people who cannot speak German and have no papers or passports.
It would take months to carry this out and wait for the results.
The decision to fast track 1m into the country will cost Angela Merkel her job, and the sexual assaults on New Years Eve and this latest incident will only speed up the process.
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Will be interesting to see if the German authorities can establish actually how old this chap was.
As I understand it, under 18s cannot be deported so large number of refugees turning up claiming to be 17 even though they look much older.0