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  • Davo55
    Davo55 Posts: 7,836
    Did they even interview Eddie Howe?

    If Sam can motivate/frighten the team into performing the way they do at club level, he'll do. Best of a mediocre candidate list.
  • Talal
    Talal Posts: 11,484
    I can smell a Lee Cattermole call up...
  • HardyAddick
    HardyAddick Posts: 1,636
    would have been my choice so i am happy
  • WestCountryAddick
    WestCountryAddick Posts: 2,545
    edited July 2016
    Just saw on BBC that they expect him to be appointed within 24 hours.

    From my point of view, in terms of English managers, there clearly aren't many to choose from, but Big Sam has made a habit of getting the best out of players over a prolonged period. I think he is a much better manager than Steve Bruce, who seemed to be the other favoured candidate, so I'm glad they've made the right choice out of the two.

    There are probably better candidates out there, but I'm happy to back Allardyce, he can't be worse than some of the others that have held the job over the years.
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,312
    Proper football man, knows the game inside out. Will get us playing the English way and inject some pride back into our team. Let's hear those Lions roar!
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,970
    Pleased considering the options
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,467
    edited July 2016
    I mean he made the most sense of the four candidates, but it just shows how poorly run the FA is that Howe, Allardyce, Bruce, and somehow Jurgen Klinsmann were the four candidates. A lot of American soccer lovers would have loved for him to get the job. His selections are at times puzzling and his tactics range from unclear to nonexistent.

    I think the players who play under some of the best managers in the world--those at City, Chelsea, and now Liverpool, will look at his tactics and methods and chortle. He's not the tactical dinosaur some people, including myself, at times make him out to be. But I don't think he's fit for purpose.

    Out of work managers I would have ahead of him:
    Bielsa
    Blanc
    Hiddink
    Pellegrinni
    Bielsa
    Van Gaal
    Rudi Garcia
    Tim Sherwood--no just kidding that'd be ridiculous for anyone to hire him to manage.
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 11,982
    Differen coach, same shit
  • newyorkaddick
    newyorkaddick Posts: 3,052
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  • Fits with the two long ball merchants in under 19s and 21s
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  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,453
    Past caring.
  • WestCountryAddick
    WestCountryAddick Posts: 2,545
    edited July 2016
    SDAddick said:

    I mean he made the most sense of the four candidates, but it just shows how poorly run the FA is that Howe, Allardyce, Bruce, and somehow Jurgen Klinsmann were the four candidates. A lot of American soccer lovers would have loved for him to get the job. His selections are at times puzzling and his tactics range from unclear to nonexistent.

    I think the players who play under some of the best managers in the world--those at City, Chelsea, and now Liverpool, will look at his tactics and methods and chortle. He's not the tactical dinosaur some people, including myself, at times make him out to be. But I don't think he's fit for purpose.

    Out of work managers I would have ahead of him:
    Bielsa
    Blanc
    Hiddink
    Pellegrinni
    Bielsa
    Van Gaal
    Rudi Garcia
    Tim Sherwood--no just kidding that'd be ridiculous for anyone to hire him to manage.

    Whilst I like many of your suggestions, you can throw Van Gaal in with Tim Sherwood in my opinion. There was a time I would've jumped at Van Gaal, but I think his light went out a number of years ago.
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    At the committee meeting of the blazers at the FA,
    They all agreed they wanted a big man for the job.

    I guess that's why Steve Bruce and Sam were the main guys.

    Steve Evans turned down the job first my source inside the FA informs me.

    Good luck big Sam you will be better once we get to a finals as you won't change tactics and screw up the mind of the players like uncle Roy.
    Every player will know his job.
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,885
    edited July 2016

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    Never mind Carol, this fella is not happy;
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  • SaySomething
    SaySomething Posts: 2,526
    IMO we need someone who is patriotic for wanting England to succeed, I don't think foreigners offer this, so the likes of klinsmann shouldn't even be considered for the job nowadays. I think that allardyce is the best candidate at the moment from a mediocre list, Howe is too young and would probably be best to continue his development at club level.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,748
    edited July 2016
    I think it's a good appointment. As sad as it is to say, our players aren't nearly as good as they (and half the country) thinks they are. Big Sam will forge a team that will fight for the shirt. At the very least, I can't see being knocked out by an Iceland or Costa Rica at a major tournament under him... but then it's the England way to do so. :-)
  • hudson-son-son
    hudson-son-son Posts: 2,645
    edited July 2016


    In all seriousness though I'm happy with the appointment, has the attributes you need to go far in an International tournament: Hard to beat and will set you up tactically to stifle the other team, good man manager (something he seems to have got better at over time), knows how to maximise the performance of his best players, will always play what he thinks is the best team rather than the best 11 and he seems a strong leader who the players will look up to rather than Roy rubbing his face like a loon on the sideline.

    By far the best English candidate and fully deserves a go.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,978
    Good appointment. I'm happy with Sam.

    What could possibly go wrong ?

  • i_b_b_o_r_g
    i_b_b_o_r_g Posts: 18,948
    Yeah, I'm happy with that, he's probably got a bit more 'bite' than the last few.

    Good luck Sam
  • Fits with the two long ball merchants in under 19s and 21s

    Boothroyd, Southgate and Allardyce. How the hell did it come to this?

    That said, i don't think Allardyce can do any worse than Hodgson and McClaren, and i think i'm past caring now anyway. The problem with our national team goes way beyond simply blaming and then changing the manager.
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  • colthe3rd
    colthe3rd Posts: 8,486
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  • colthe3rd
    colthe3rd Posts: 8,486
    edited July 2016
    Edit that, I had a moment.

    It is mental though.
  • SDAddick said:

    I mean he made the most sense of the four candidates, but it just shows how poorly run the FA is that Howe, Allardyce, Bruce, and somehow Jurgen Klinsmann were the four candidates. A lot of American soccer lovers would have loved for him to get the job. His selections are at times puzzling and his tactics range from unclear to nonexistent.

    I think the players who play under some of the best managers in the world--those at City, Chelsea, and now Liverpool, will look at his tactics and methods and chortle. He's not the tactical dinosaur some people, including myself, at times make him out to be. But I don't think he's fit for purpose.

    Out of work managers I would have ahead of him:
    Bielsa
    Blanc
    Hiddink
    Pellegrinni
    Bielsa
    Van Gaal
    Rudi Garcia
    Tim Sherwood--no just kidding that'd be ridiculous for anyone to hire him to manage.


    Mate Id be devastated if we had any of them.

    Tried a top foreign coach, didn't work.

    Need someone who aint gonna take any shit in the changing room, not be afraid to drop players if under performing and havea game plan where players know their jobs.

    Players should be frightened of their place and the manager.
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,970

    Fits with the two long ball merchants in under 19s and 21s

    I can't believe Bothroyd is involved but I watched the U19 games so far in their tournament and they've got a lot of flair going forward and look steady at the back
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,804
    I like Big Sam. Be interesting to see how he takes this on, his dream job.

    Good luck to him.
  • Fits with the two long ball merchants in under 19s and 21s

    I can't believe Bothroyd is involved but I watched the U19 games so far in their tournament and they've got a lot of flair going forward and look steady at the back
    Should have sent them to the Euros then, complete opposite of the Senior side.
  • Starinnaddick
    Starinnaddick Posts: 4,342
    English manager ? Both his parents are Scottish .
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,467
    edited July 2016

    SDAddick said:

    I mean he made the most sense of the four candidates, but it just shows how poorly run the FA is that Howe, Allardyce, Bruce, and somehow Jurgen Klinsmann were the four candidates. A lot of American soccer lovers would have loved for him to get the job. His selections are at times puzzling and his tactics range from unclear to nonexistent.

    I think the players who play under some of the best managers in the world--those at City, Chelsea, and now Liverpool, will look at his tactics and methods and chortle. He's not the tactical dinosaur some people, including myself, at times make him out to be. But I don't think he's fit for purpose.

    Out of work managers I would have ahead of him:
    Bielsa
    Blanc
    Hiddink
    Pellegrinni
    Bielsa
    Van Gaal
    Rudi Garcia
    Tim Sherwood--no just kidding that'd be ridiculous for anyone to hire him to manage.


    Mate Id be devastated if we had any of them.

    Tried a top foreign coach, didn't work.

    Need someone who aint gonna take any shit in the changing room, not be afraid to drop players if under performing and havea game plan where players know their jobs.

    Players should be frightened of their place and the manager.
    But not all foreign managers are the same. And Big Sam has his favorites too. I'm really looking forward to Defoe knocking it down for Kevin Nolan to score.

    I think England have some excellent young players, with a handful more coming through at U-19 and U-21 levels now. Think they're going to waste two years with Allardyce in charge.
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 10,933
    Just an interim appointment till Wilmots is ready.
  • SDAddick said:

    SDAddick said:

    I mean he made the most sense of the four candidates, but it just shows how poorly run the FA is that Howe, Allardyce, Bruce, and somehow Jurgen Klinsmann were the four candidates. A lot of American soccer lovers would have loved for him to get the job. His selections are at times puzzling and his tactics range from unclear to nonexistent.

    I think the players who play under some of the best managers in the world--those at City, Chelsea, and now Liverpool, will look at his tactics and methods and chortle. He's not the tactical dinosaur some people, including myself, at times make him out to be. But I don't think he's fit for purpose.

    Out of work managers I would have ahead of him:
    Bielsa
    Blanc
    Hiddink
    Pellegrinni
    Bielsa
    Van Gaal
    Rudi Garcia
    Tim Sherwood--no just kidding that'd be ridiculous for anyone to hire him to manage.


    Mate Id be devastated if we had any of them.

    Tried a top foreign coach, didn't work.

    Need someone who aint gonna take any shit in the changing room, not be afraid to drop players if under performing and havea game plan where players know their jobs.

    Players should be frightened of their place and the manager.
    But not all foreign managers are the same. And Big Sam has his favorites too. I'm really looking forward to Defoe knocking it down for Kevin Nolan to score.

    I think England have some excellent young players, with a handful more coming through at U-19 and U-21 levels now. Think they're going to waste two years with Allardyce in charge.
    yep, possibly right, however, I think Sam could be more a of a Venables role, someone who joined in with the banter, let the players let their hair down, was one of the lads when needed and boss when needed.

    The England Squads and sides for the past maybe 16 years look like they are bored, shit scared of losing, don't want the ball.

    I think the enjoyment needs to get back into the squad and maybe Big sam could bring that