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  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,338
    Leuth said:

    Rashid doesn't have the control for Tests imo. But then, who is there? I'd probably give Moeen one more, give a thought or two to a Simon Kerrigan recall (although his new teammate Parkinson is the one I really want to see thrown in at some point), maybe play Borthwick as top-order stabiliser and third spinner.

    I understand that it's unlikely Kerrigan will play again while Cook is captain.
  • Kenny Achampong
    Kenny Achampong Posts: 540
    I will never forget Kerrigan's appearance against Australia at the Oval in 2013.

    I can only imagine that he was beset by nerves, as he served up some of the worst left arm spin imaginable to Shane Watson, who literally filled his boots.

    Anyhow I don't think you'll be seeing him again anytime soon.
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,338
    Kenny Achampong said:

    I will never forget Kerrigan's appearance against Australia at the Oval in 2013.

    I can only imagine that he was beset by nerves, as he served up some of the worst left arm spin imaginable to Shane Watson, who literally filled his boots.

    Anyhow I don't think you'll be seeing him again anytime soon.

    He literally filled his boots?
  • Kenny Achampong
    Kenny Achampong Posts: 540
    Yes it was probably the only time that we never dismissed Watson LBW, when he had made thirty odd.

    I can still hear the thud of the ball hitting the boundary boards, as Watson bashed another full toss/half volley/long hop from the hapless Kerrigan.

    I could be wrong, but I think that Watson was close to a century by lunchtime on day one.
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,338
    Kenny Achampong said:

    Yes it was probably the only time that we never dismissed Watson LBW, when he had made thirty odd.

    I can still hear the thud of the ball hitting the boundary boards, as Watson bashed another full toss/half volley/long hop from the hapless Kerrigan.

    I could be wrong, but I think that Watson was close to a century by lunchtime on day one.

    But he didn't literally fill his boots. Did he?
  • McBobbin
    McBobbin Posts: 12,051
    Chizz said:

    Kenny Achampong said:

    Yes it was probably the only time that we never dismissed Watson LBW, when he had made thirty odd.

    I can still hear the thud of the ball hitting the boundary boards, as Watson bashed another full toss/half volley/long hop from the hapless Kerrigan.

    I could be wrong, but I think that Watson was close to a century by lunchtime on day one.

    But he didn't literally fill his boots. Did he?
    I can imagine someone facing Dale Steyn literally filling their boots
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    a lot of chatter in the early hours - you lot cant sleep ?
  • Ben18
    Ben18 Posts: 1,638
    Addick Addict said:

    Ben18 said:

    As its England, I expect them not to pick the best spin bowlers, but the ones with the best batting averages. Rashid has a first class average of 35 with 10 centuries, Moeen averages 38 with 16 centuries.

    For what its worth, I think they should give Rashid the chance on Friday. If they need an off spinner, Root is not much worse than Ali anyway;

    Cook
    Hales
    Root
    Vince
    Ballance
    Bairstow+
    Stokes
    Woakes
    Rashid
    Broad
    Anderson

    Looks remarkably close to the team I posted on Monday ;-)
    Addick Addict said:

    The team for the net Test will, in my opinion, be:

    Cook
    Hales
    Root
    Vince
    Ballance
    Bairstow
    Stokes
    Woakes
    Rashid
    Broad
    Anderson

    It does look very similar!
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,851
    edited July 2016
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/36853789

    Finn and Ball have been released. Interestingly, Rashid will only play in addition to Moeen, not instead of him
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,824
    killerandflash said:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/36853789

    Finn and Ball have been released. Interestingly, Rashid will only play in addition to Moeen, not instead of him

    Can't see him playing at all , in that case
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  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,792
    England win toss and bat

    No Rashid
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,008
    edited July 2016
    Addick Addict said:

    England win toss and bat

    No Rashid

    As expected. Great news that we won the toss, I'm really looking forward to this game.

    I was surprised, they just showed "spinner" stats and Old Trafford has a lower average of Test spinner wickets than Edgbaston, Headingley and Lords (since 1990). If I heard correctly.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,008
    17-0

    Hales was a bit fortunate, when given not out LBW, as the ball would have hit.

    Mind you if Pakistan had reviewed, it would have been unsuccessful, as was just clipping.

    Cook also nicked one through the slip cordon.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,008
    Hales b Amir 10

    25-1

    Tbf it was coming.
  • Addickted2TheReds
    Addickted2TheReds Posts: 7,736
    What a shot that is from Root.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,008
    95-1 at lunch

    Root 41 no Cook 40 no.
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    Covered End said:

    Addick Addict said:

    England win toss and bat

    No Rashid

    As expected. Great news that we won the toss, I'm really looking forward to this game.

    I was surprised, they just showed "spinner" stats and Old Trafford has a lower average of Test spinner wickets than Edgbaston, Headingley and Lords (since 1990). If I heard correctly.
    I'm surprised too - thought I heard Bumble say that it turns at OT- or is this maybe since they turned the wicket around?
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    Addick Addict said:

    England win toss and bat

    No Rashid

    Phew, dodged a bullet there then. Don't see the point in playing him just coz he's a (ordinary) spinner - lets blast them out with the quicks.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,008
    Well it does turn at OT & teams sometimes play 2 spinners. But statistically in Tests there, the spinners haven't taken as many wickets as at the others stated.
    In fact the figures were only slightly better than at Lords, which is not known to be that good for spin bowling.

    Pakistan should play spin better than pace, so I think we we made the correct selection.

    111-1

    Root 51no.
  • Addickted2TheReds
    Addickted2TheReds Posts: 7,736
    50 for Root.
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  • Addickted2TheReds
    Addickted2TheReds Posts: 7,736
    50 for Cook.
  • Addickted2TheReds
    Addickted2TheReds Posts: 7,736
    100 partnership.
  • Addickted2TheReds
    Addickted2TheReds Posts: 7,736
    100 for Cook.

    His 29th in Tests.
  • roseandcrown
    roseandcrown Posts: 7,587
    Cook out 105
  • Addickted2TheReds
    Addickted2TheReds Posts: 7,736
    Cook bowled on the stroke of tea - 105 b Amir

    210/2

    Root 87*
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,954
    Am I right Cook now has the most Test runs for an opener?

  • Addickted2TheReds
    Addickted2TheReds Posts: 7,736
    North Lower Neil said:

    Am I right Cook now has the most Test runs for an opener?

    Yep.
  • Addickted2TheReds
    Addickted2TheReds Posts: 7,736
    edited July 2016
    Vince drives at a wide one, nicks off and is dropped by Younus Khan at second slip.

    From palm, on to chest and onto the floor.

    Half a second reaction time - no idea why he was standing that close, good carry at Old Trafford.

    Also, the 4th drop off Amir in the series.
  • Addickted2TheReds
    Addickted2TheReds Posts: 7,736
    Vince doesn't profit from his good fortune.

    Gone nicking off to Rahat Ali.

    Root 98*
  • Addickted2TheReds
    Addickted2TheReds Posts: 7,736
    A 10th Test century for Joe Root - he's currently averaging 53.7 in Tests.

    102* (167)

    244/3

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