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England v Sri Lanka & Pakistan

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  • To me, it wasnt certain that the mark was or wasnt there before the ball went past, but i think it was the 'noise' on snicko that made him probably realise that it had hit something - and it could only have been the glove - to me, in the end , the right decision was made, but, as you say, i always thought to overturn the original decision you had to have concrete evidence of which this 'maybe' wasnt.

    Agreed, so if it wasn't CERTAIN whether the mark was already there. He shouldn't have given him out.

    The noise could have been pad or foot. Anyway, at least it doesn't matter & even keeps Stokes fresher for a late bowling onslaught.
  • If in doubt not out always used to be the cardinal rule of umpiring.

    Not seen the Stokes incident so cannot comment specifically on that.
  • edited July 2016
    Best beer snake ever. !
  • 533-6 at tea Root 226 no - magnificent innings
  • England declare on 589-8.
    Root eventually out for 254. 3rd highest score ever at OT
  • lets get 2 or 3 before end of play
  • lets get 2 or 3 before end of play

    Ended up wth 4 !
  • Bob Willis stating that if England had picked Rashid and lost the toss, that he would have ended up with worse figures than Yasir Shah who ended up with 1-180something.
  • COYW - lets roll them over quickly and get them back in again - shell shocked.
  • I missed the Pakistan innings yesterday, but watched it this morning. I thought we bowled superbly. It's wonderful to see our bowlers intimidating the opposition.
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  • Masood c Root b Anderson 39

    71-5
  • Rain stopped play, but just starting now. Play extended to 7pm tonight.
  • Shafiqc Hales b Broad 4

    76-6
  • Sarfraz c Root b Stokes 26

    112-7
  • edited July 2016
    Shah c Root b Woakes 1

    119-8 lunch taken

    Woakes was looking almost unplayable.

    Marvelous effort by England's bowlers on what is a very good batting wicket.
  • Spot the bowler that the Pakistani's rate :smiley:
  • Fair play to Ali. That was a decent over even before the wicket.
  • edited July 2016
    What is the rule/target for a follow on option?
  • Misbah c Cook b Ali 52

    179-9
  • What is the rule/target for a follow on option?

    They have to get within 200 of our score, we will bat again though.
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  • cfgs said:

    What is the rule/target for a follow on option?

    They have to get within 200 of our score, we will bat again though.
    Cheers
  • edited July 2016
    Some sweet chin music required methinks :smirk:
    Edit; Scrap that keep Moeen on :smiley:
  • Why hasn't the follow on been enforced?
  • England bat again with a 391 lead

    Wahab c Hales B Moeen 39

    198 All Out
  • Why hasn't the follow on been enforced?

    I should imagine, to give our bowlers a rest, rather than have to bowl straight away and potentially have to bowl for 2.5 days non stop.

    It also means they have to bat last on a detorioating wicket.
  • Why hasn't the follow on been enforced?

    Doesn't seem the modern way and Cook likes to protect his bowlers.
  • Why hasn't the follow on been enforced?

    Doesn't seem the modern way and Cook likes to protect his bowlers.
  • cfgs said:

    Why hasn't the follow on been enforced?

    Doesn't seem the modern way and Cook likes to protect his bowlers.
    Alright, alright I heard you the first time :wink:
  • Why hasn't the follow on been enforced?

    There are still seven sessions left in the match.

    I guess the thought is (1) preventing our bowlers from having to bowl for the whole day and deep into tomorrow, (2) make sure Pakistan are batting fourth, in the worst possible conditions, with the ball turning and up-and-down bounce, (3) see if some of our out-of-form batsmen (Hales, Ballance, Vince) can resuscitate and prolong their careers by making some second-innings runs.

    If it were me, I would bat until some time after lunch tomorrow, giving our bowlers 130-140 overs, max.
  • edited July 2016
    WTF? Is Cook on commission for ticket sales? He should be sacked as captain for not enforcing follow-on. Doesn't he know there is a tendency in Manchester for wet stuff to drop out of the sky?
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