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Roger Johnson Yelling At Fans

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  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,805
    To the tune of if you are happy and you know it...

    If you can't make a difference don't turn up,
    If you can't make a difference don't turn up,
    If you're going to swear at fans,
    Going to swear at fans,
    If you're going to swear at fans don't turn up.

    If you're name is Roger johnson,
    Don't turn up,
    If your name is Roger johnson don't turn up,
    There's more money out in India
    More money out in India,
    To the fans here you're a wanker please eff off.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    I have some sympathy with the poor diddums rich chite player not getting unquestioning devotion from the fans and pouting bit.

    However.

    He said something along the lines of 'if you don't like it don't come', which does not seem to be a defensive protect yourself reaction. More like a footballer who is 'considerably richer than yeow' regarding fans as plebs that he would rather not have around contaminating his bubble universe that he has structured around himself.

    If you don't like it don't come.

    Does not come across as quite the instant reaction of a verbally attacked player, but more as one who regards us through the tinted windows of his car as scum.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126

    Fans can hurl abuse at a player but when they retaliate we start complaining.

    Double standards.

    Except no one was specifically having a go at Johnson. Let's let go of this theory that he was a target of abuse yesterday because he wasn't. Any anger was aimed at the regime.
  • Carter
    Carter Posts: 14,242
    edited August 2016
    Yeah the players were not getting grief. If the game yesterday had been played half way through the season they would have deserved some shit and got it. They can feel flattered by the support they got and if they thought the performance was good enough they can all clear off now.
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,805
    Interested in knowoing what he thought 'it' was there.

    The poor result?
    The poor players?
    Him mouthing off?
    The regime?

    Who knows, probably not Rog.

  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456
    To be fair, I suspect he was pretty pissed off about the result as well.

    No win bonus innit.
  • addick05
    addick05 Posts: 2,348
    Well there you go, another shite player stealing a living from the club. Yet another reason why I will be limiting my visits to 'Fortress Valley' this season. Just can't face another 10 months of garbage and probable relegation.
  • Arsenetatters
    Arsenetatters Posts: 5,972
    Addickted said:

    Saw him trapping off to a lone fan at Brentford away last season in the half time subs warm up. Remembered thinking at the time he acted a prick and was clearly spoiling for a row.

    Funny how he wasn't so interested when my son fronted him about it when he was getting on the coach post game.

    He did say Fox specifically came over to apologise though.

    Respect to Fox. Roger Johnson you'll never learn will you.
  • Exit strategy, shit way of doing it but will work once the mgr realises the contempt towards him
  • but Johnson is the current Charlton. I am sure KM is doing exactly the same, but not on the pitch. There is total disregard for the loyal supporters.
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  • c4fcdenmark
    c4fcdenmark Posts: 2,041
    I do have some sympathy for Roger Johnson (I'm safe in Denmark, at least). With ten minutes to go with Charlton attacking the Charlton supporters end, a number of the 'ultras' refused, on several occasions, to return the ball when it crossed the goal line, instead choosing to kick it into the stand. At ten minutes to go, Charlton were, at least, in the Bury half for significant periods, fashioning a couple of half chances. As a Charlton player, I would have been pretty pissed off.
  • c4fcdenmark
    c4fcdenmark Posts: 2,041
    iaitch said:

    He seemed to have had a good game according to Radio London.

    What brought this on? Was he being slagged off by our fans and finally had had enough?

    See above.

  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    What brought it on?
    He didn't see enough due deference and worship towards him and reacted.

    Continual abuse of Roger Johnson will motivate me to attend.

    I wonder if his language as a player could actually get him arrested. If he ambled through Bluewater using the language he does surely he would get done, it being a public place and all.

    On the pitch at the Valley is a public place, with children usually being closest to the players, surely that wouldn't make him above the law of the land?
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,727

    I do have some sympathy for Roger Johnson (I'm safe in Denmark, at least). With ten minutes to go with Charlton attacking the Charlton supporters end, a number of the 'ultras' refused, on several occasions, to return the ball when it crossed the goal line, instead choosing to kick it into the stand. At ten minutes to go, Charlton were, at least, in the Bury half for significant periods, fashioning a couple of half chances. As a Charlton player, I would have been pretty pissed off.

    ultras? what are you on about

  • he's Roger Johnson
    And he is craaazy
    He's got Tourette's
    Cunt bitch gravy

    Wish i could LOL this twice
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,257
    seth plum said:

    What brought it on?
    He didn't see enough due deference and worship towards him and reacted.

    Continual abuse of Roger Johnson will motivate me to attend.

    I wonder if his language as a player could actually get him arrested. If he ambled through Bluewater using the language he does surely he would get done, it being a public place and all.

    On the pitch at the Valley is a public place, with children usually being closest to the players, surely that wouldn't make him above the law of the land?

    Is swearing in public a criminal offence?
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126
    It was more like two minutes left when that happened.
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,975

    I do have some sympathy for Roger Johnson (I'm safe in Denmark, at least). With ten minutes to go with Charlton attacking the Charlton supporters end, a number of the 'ultras' refused, on several occasions, to return the ball when it crossed the goal line, instead choosing to kick it into the stand. At ten minutes to go, Charlton were, at least, in the Bury half for significant periods, fashioning a couple of half chances. As a Charlton player, I would have been pretty pissed off.

    One person took about 10 seconds to return the ball and he good plenty of stick for it.
  • JiMMy 85
    JiMMy 85 Posts: 10,193
    Croydon said:

    I do have some sympathy for Roger Johnson (I'm safe in Denmark, at least). With ten minutes to go with Charlton attacking the Charlton supporters end, a number of the 'ultras' refused, on several occasions, to return the ball when it crossed the goal line, instead choosing to kick it into the stand. At ten minutes to go, Charlton were, at least, in the Bury half for significant periods, fashioning a couple of half chances. As a Charlton player, I would have been pretty pissed off.

    ultras? what are you on about

    I went to half a dozen away games last season, and each time I was deeply embarrassed by a section of our support at some point. I wouldn't call them ultras, but I think I roughly know who @c4fcdenmark is referring to.

    That said, ValleyGary and co. insist nothing was particularly focussed toward Johnson, so it's still very hard to accept he had any right to say what he said.
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  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,331
    sam3110 said:

    seth plum said:

    What brought it on?
    He didn't see enough due deference and worship towards him and reacted.

    Continual abuse of Roger Johnson will motivate me to attend.

    I wonder if his language as a player could actually get him arrested. If he ambled through Bluewater using the language he does surely he would get done, it being a public place and all.

    On the pitch at the Valley is a public place, with children usually being closest to the players, surely that wouldn't make him above the law of the land?

    Is swearing in public a criminal offence?
    Yes.
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,257
    edited August 2016
    Chizz said:

    sam3110 said:

    seth plum said:

    What brought it on?
    He didn't see enough due deference and worship towards him and reacted.

    Continual abuse of Roger Johnson will motivate me to attend.

    I wonder if his language as a player could actually get him arrested. If he ambled through Bluewater using the language he does surely he would get done, it being a public place and all.

    On the pitch at the Valley is a public place, with children usually being closest to the players, surely that wouldn't make him above the law of the land?

    Is swearing in public a criminal offence?
    Yes.
    Then why haven't I got a life sentence? In fact, 95% of the population would be behind bars. Oh and furthermore, if a player could apparently be arrested for swearing in a public place, what about all the fans swearing at him from the stands, isn't that also a public place? Do they get arrested too?
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,331
    edited August 2016
    sam3110 said:

    Chizz said:

    sam3110 said:

    seth plum said:

    What brought it on?
    He didn't see enough due deference and worship towards him and reacted.

    Continual abuse of Roger Johnson will motivate me to attend.

    I wonder if his language as a player could actually get him arrested. If he ambled through Bluewater using the language he does surely he would get done, it being a public place and all.

    On the pitch at the Valley is a public place, with children usually being closest to the players, surely that wouldn't make him above the law of the land?

    Is swearing in public a criminal offence?
    Yes.
    Then why haven't I got a life sentence?
    You have to swear in the presence of the police to be arrested. And they will do so only if they believe your swearing is causing annoyance to local residents.

    So, maybe you're just not very good at it.
  • Oh_Yoni_Boy
    Oh_Yoni_Boy Posts: 1,762
    JiMMy 85 said:

    Croydon said:

    I do have some sympathy for Roger Johnson (I'm safe in Denmark, at least). With ten minutes to go with Charlton attacking the Charlton supporters end, a number of the 'ultras' refused, on several occasions, to return the ball when it crossed the goal line, instead choosing to kick it into the stand. At ten minutes to go, Charlton were, at least, in the Bury half for significant periods, fashioning a couple of half chances. As a Charlton player, I would have been pretty pissed off.

    ultras? what are you on about

    I went to half a dozen away games last season, and each time I was deeply embarrassed by a section of our support at some point. I wouldn't call them ultras, but I think I roughly know who @c4fcdenmark is referring to.

    That said, ValleyGary and co. insist nothing was particularly focussed toward Johnson, so it's still very hard to accept he had any right to say what he said.
    Not been to so many away games the last few seasons, but the last one I was at (Bolton) there were some pretty spectacular morons within our fans giving it out to Pope and Fox. Sounds like it's getting more frequent.
  • JiMMy 85
    JiMMy 85 Posts: 10,193

    JiMMy 85 said:

    Croydon said:

    I do have some sympathy for Roger Johnson (I'm safe in Denmark, at least). With ten minutes to go with Charlton attacking the Charlton supporters end, a number of the 'ultras' refused, on several occasions, to return the ball when it crossed the goal line, instead choosing to kick it into the stand. At ten minutes to go, Charlton were, at least, in the Bury half for significant periods, fashioning a couple of half chances. As a Charlton player, I would have been pretty pissed off.

    ultras? what are you on about

    I went to half a dozen away games last season, and each time I was deeply embarrassed by a section of our support at some point. I wouldn't call them ultras, but I think I roughly know who @c4fcdenmark is referring to.

    That said, ValleyGary and co. insist nothing was particularly focussed toward Johnson, so it's still very hard to accept he had any right to say what he said.
    Not been to so many away games the last few seasons, but the last one I was at (Bolton) there were some pretty spectacular morons within our fans giving it out to Pope and Fox. Sounds like it's getting more frequent.
    Fox has received a lot of stick, although most of what I've seen is directed at the stewards, which is particularly shameful. The 'get a proper job' chanting and shouting is pathetic. Squaring up to middle-aged women and shouting 'c**t' right in their faces... I don't get the mindset at all.
  • drewman
    drewman Posts: 1,104
    Silence from the club in reaction to Johnson is deafening.
  • boggzy
    boggzy Posts: 3,595
    edited August 2016

    JiMMy 85 said:

    Croydon said:

    I do have some sympathy for Roger Johnson (I'm safe in Denmark, at least). With ten minutes to go with Charlton attacking the Charlton supporters end, a number of the 'ultras' refused, on several occasions, to return the ball when it crossed the goal line, instead choosing to kick it into the stand. At ten minutes to go, Charlton were, at least, in the Bury half for significant periods, fashioning a couple of half chances. As a Charlton player, I would have been pretty pissed off.

    ultras? what are you on about

    I went to half a dozen away games last season, and each time I was deeply embarrassed by a section of our support at some point. I wouldn't call them ultras, but I think I roughly know who @c4fcdenmark is referring to.

    That said, ValleyGary and co. insist nothing was particularly focussed toward Johnson, so it's still very hard to accept he had any right to say what he said.
    Not been to so many away games the last few seasons, but the last one I was at (Bolton) there were some pretty spectacular morons within our fans giving it out to Pope and Fox. Sounds like it's getting more frequent.
    We really have a proper Millwall-like element now that started a few years back.

    I went to Preston away at the end of last season, there were about 300 CAFC fans. No vocal support whatsoever bar 4 complete pikeys off their face constantly screaming abuse at fellow fans, "SING UP YOU C**TS" - though only songs they 'sung' were incest song and 'Preston's a shithole'; our players "FOX YOU'RE A C**T", "YOU'RE F*****G SHIT MAKENIOK - F**K OFF MUG" etc etc, and the Preston keeper "I'M GONNA RAPE YOUR WIFE YOU C**T".

    They'd come by free coach and were in my opinion more interested in provoking a reaction from Charlton fans, they knew everyone was trying to ignore them/getting pissed off with them. Really really unpleasant oxygen thieves. There was a middle-aged bloke (one of their dads?) in Stone Island clobber standing with them and scanning the crowd everytime they shouted abuse to see if there was a reaction.

    With everything else going on, having vermin like this at games really is the icing on the cake!

  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,842
    seth plum said:

    What brought it on?
    He didn't see enough due deference and worship towards him and reacted.

    Continual abuse of Roger Johnson will motivate me to attend.

    I wonder if his language as a player could actually get him arrested. If he ambled through Bluewater using the language he does surely he would get done, it being a public place and all.

    On the pitch at the Valley is a public place, with children usually being closest to the players, surely that wouldn't make him above the law of the land?

    This would be covered under Section 5 of the Public Order Act and his actions are unlikely to be an offence under said act. His defence would be that he had no reason to believe there was any person within hearing or sight who was likely to be caused harassment, alarm or distress. Probably a reasonable assumption to make within the confines of a football stadium where the crowd would have been using similar or worse words in every other chant.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,990
    drewman said:

    Silence from the club in reaction to Johnson is deafening.

    Jeez it's only 10.20. give them a chance.
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,842
    Chizz said:

    sam3110 said:

    Chizz said:

    sam3110 said:

    seth plum said:

    What brought it on?
    He didn't see enough due deference and worship towards him and reacted.

    Continual abuse of Roger Johnson will motivate me to attend.

    I wonder if his language as a player could actually get him arrested. If he ambled through Bluewater using the language he does surely he would get done, it being a public place and all.

    On the pitch at the Valley is a public place, with children usually being closest to the players, surely that wouldn't make him above the law of the land?

    Is swearing in public a criminal offence?
    Yes.
    Then why haven't I got a life sentence?
    You have to swear in the presence of the police to be arrested. And they will do so only if they believe your swearing is causing annoyance to local residents.

    So, maybe you're just not very good at it.
    You can swear at a police officer and not commit an offence.