The General Election - June 8th 2017
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Just the man for the job...MuttleyCAFC said:She is a joke - what the EU are doing is what we knew they would do - we need somebody who knows what they are doing in negotiations and realises the consequences of getting it wrong. May would be a complete disaster - I fear we are walking into that disaster.
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She won her seat with 66% of the vote last time (nearest challenger was Labour with 12%) so I'm sure she'll be safe - but wouldn't it just be typical of the clusterf**k that seems to be British politics on all sides at the moment if the PMChippycafc said:Re-May... On the local radio the other night (radio berks) they had an election phone in, 90% of her constituents slagged her off for her local performance . To be fair the interviewer asked a little bit about each caller to ensure there was a balanced view. As its bbc radio berks i was surprised this wasn't mentioned in the next few days.
and Brexit negotiator in chief lost her seat !3 -
Maybe you're right and the 48% of the voters without a voice in the next few years are in a bubble of our making.TellyTubby said:
Not just you. Most people on this thread.razil said:Is it just me or is May a liability, she seems to be wobbling hugely, shielded from the media too, all dodgy IMHO
Hardly anyone outside of this bubble though would be my suggestion.
But I'm pretty certain that no normal negotiations start with the side with the most to lose trying to dictate timetables and terms to the other 27 parties, threatening to take their ball home without any deal if they don't get it all their way and then publically slagging off the other side when they point out that these things might be more complicated than they're making out and there's going to be process and a cost to both sides.
She's either utterly delusional, genuinely one of the most arrogant people in politics who believes everyone else needs to dance to her tune and can't undrrstand why they aren't or she just doesn't give a monkeys on the effect on any negotiations as long as she appears to be tough and is chasing UKIP votes. Again.
No option is particularly flattering in my book.8 -
Perhaps should have left it at gosssip, clearly they are spooked and fear losing face to the electorate, as the Downing Street dinner stuff has hit the English press.1
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I know.. But its a typical area where rven the social l misfits think their special.se9addick said:
She won her seat with 66% of the vote last time (nearest challenger was Labour with 12%) so I'm sure she'll be safe - but wouldn't it just be typical of the clusterf**k that seems to be British politics on all sides at the moment if the PMChippycafc said:Re-May... On the local radio the other night (radio berks) they had an election phone in, 90% of her constituents slagged her off for her local performance . To be fair the interviewer asked a little bit about each caller to ensure there was a balanced view. As its bbc radio berks i was surprised this wasn't mentioned in the next few days.
and Brexit negotiator in chief lost her seat !0 -
Nice to see you in bromance mode prague... Can you count me in.PragueAddick said:I have equal respect for @Chizz, @Fiiish on one side, and @Dippenhall and @cafcfan on the other. A shame therefore to see them at loggerheads.
What swings me towards the Chizz/Fiiish viewpoint is this:
If there is one thing we ought to have learnt in the last 30 years is that if you ask ordinary working people to put their future wellbeing in the hands of the UK financial services industry, they will be done like kippers. I think its Ok to have top ups from the private sector for people like you two who are smart enough both to see the value of putting your money away and probably to avoid the worst excesses. But to insist the mass of ordinary people depend on private contingency, well; I guess it depends on whether you think we should have a society more like the USA or like Germany. No prizes for guessing where my vote goes.0 -
Eh?Chippycafc said:
Nice to see you in bromance mode prague... Can you count me in.PragueAddick said:I have equal respect for @Chizz, @Fiiish on one side, and @Dippenhall and @cafcfan on the other. A shame therefore to see them at loggerheads.
What swings me towards the Chizz/Fiiish viewpoint is this:
If there is one thing we ought to have learnt in the last 30 years is that if you ask ordinary working people to put their future wellbeing in the hands of the UK financial services industry, they will be done like kippers. I think its Ok to have top ups from the private sector for people like you two who are smart enough both to see the value of putting your money away and probably to avoid the worst excesses. But to insist the mass of ordinary people depend on private contingency, well; I guess it depends on whether you think we should have a society more like the USA or like Germany. No prizes for guessing where my vote goes.
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May is just a follow on from the other useless article- Cameron.
He took us into a referendum to keep his own job. A gamble to protect him- he lost- we lost.
Nothing that was said in the EU referendum debate- on both sides, were vaguely near the issues we now are told about.
Its politicians- cannot be trusted.2 -
It's chilling to think that if the Daily Mail and The Sun and Daily Express stopped spouting their anti-Europe rhetoric the whole sorry mess would be more obvious to the general public. It's terrifying to think how much power the media moguls have.17
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What like devaluation and inflation already hitting the less well off in the pocket, and the absence of anything like the trade deal brexiteers suggested would be achievable looking likely?0
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Lighten upPragueAddick said:
Eh?Chippycafc said:
Nice to see you in bromance mode prague... Can you count me in.PragueAddick said:I have equal respect for @Chizz, @Fiiish on one side, and @Dippenhall and @cafcfan on the other. A shame therefore to see them at loggerheads.
What swings me towards the Chizz/Fiiish viewpoint is this:
If there is one thing we ought to have learnt in the last 30 years is that if you ask ordinary working people to put their future wellbeing in the hands of the UK financial services industry, they will be done like kippers. I think its Ok to have top ups from the private sector for people like you two who are smart enough both to see the value of putting your money away and probably to avoid the worst excesses. But to insist the mass of ordinary people depend on private contingency, well; I guess it depends on whether you think we should have a society more like the USA or like Germany. No prizes for guessing where my vote goes.0 -
May's speech today looks straight out of Trump's diversion playbook in an attempt to attract UKIP voters. Where has the centre ground gone in UK politics? This is a very depressive election contest.9
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This is what frightens me most!Bournemouth Addick said:
Maybe you're right and the 48% of the voters without a voice in the next few years are in a bubble of our making.TellyTubby said:
Not just you. Most people on this thread.razil said:Is it just me or is May a liability, she seems to be wobbling hugely, shielded from the media too, all dodgy IMHO
Hardly anyone outside of this bubble though would be my suggestion.
But I'm pretty certain that no normal negotiations start with the side with the most to lose trying to dictate timetables and terms to the other 27 parties, threatening to take their ball home without any deal if they don't get it all their way and then publically slagging off the other side when they point out that these things might be more complicated than they're making out and there's going to be process and a cost to both sides.
She's either utterly delusional, genuinely one of the most arrogant people in politics who believes everyone else needs to dance to her tune and can't undrrstand why they aren't or she just doesn't give a monkeys on the effect on any negotiations as long as she appears to be tough and is chasing UKIP votes. Again.
No option is particularly flattering in my book.
The remaining 27 countries have the power and will dictate the terms. People saying we can just leave without paying the exit charge obviously think we can survive without any trade with the EU and that other countries will flock to trade with us knowing we don't pay our bills.6 -
Whatever you say, Chips. But since you are here, i am curious how you feel to find yourself on the same side of the arguments here as Chizz, Fiiish, Bournemouth, Charlton Madrid, Muttley (to name just some of the Remainers you tried to troll) and I. Don't you recall us trying to point out to you who the politicians are whom you were backing with such mindless aggression on the Brexit thread?Chippycafc said:
Lighten upPragueAddick said:
Eh?Chippycafc said:
Nice to see you in bromance mode prague... Can you count me in.PragueAddick said:I have equal respect for @Chizz, @Fiiish on one side, and @Dippenhall and @cafcfan on the other. A shame therefore to see them at loggerheads.
What swings me towards the Chizz/Fiiish viewpoint is this:
If there is one thing we ought to have learnt in the last 30 years is that if you ask ordinary working people to put their future wellbeing in the hands of the UK financial services industry, they will be done like kippers. I think its Ok to have top ups from the private sector for people like you two who are smart enough both to see the value of putting your money away and probably to avoid the worst excesses. But to insist the mass of ordinary people depend on private contingency, well; I guess it depends on whether you think we should have a society more like the USA or like Germany. No prizes for guessing where my vote goes.
Never mind, mate. You've got your country back. Now you can look forward to strong and stable leadership for the next 5 years. What a time to be alive.
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Blimey. The most significant thing about this tweet is the author of it.4 -
They'll be back.Red_in_SE8 said:
London is the financial capital of the world. All the other banks are here, all the talent is here, all the infrastructure is here, and we speak English.
On top of that, we have the best legal system, the best accountancy system, and our time zone is the centre of the world.
Hope they enjoy the holiday.
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Glad to see other dyed in the blue Tories like me are seeing May and her merry men for the frauds they are.PragueAddick said:
Blimey. The most significant thing about this tweet is the author of it.2 -
Ffs grow upPragueAddick said:
Whatever you say, Chips. But since you are here, i am curious how you feel to find yourself on the same side of the arguments here as Chizz, Fiiish, Bournemouth, Charlton Madrid, Muttley (to name just some of the Remainers you tried to troll) and I. Don't you recall us trying to point out to you who the politicians are whom you were backing with such mindless aggression on the Brexit thread?Chippycafc said:
Lighten upPragueAddick said:
Eh?Chippycafc said:
Nice to see you in bromance mode prague... Can you count me in.PragueAddick said:I have equal respect for @Chizz, @Fiiish on one side, and @Dippenhall and @cafcfan on the other. A shame therefore to see them at loggerheads.
What swings me towards the Chizz/Fiiish viewpoint is this:
If there is one thing we ought to have learnt in the last 30 years is that if you ask ordinary working people to put their future wellbeing in the hands of the UK financial services industry, they will be done like kippers. I think its Ok to have top ups from the private sector for people like you two who are smart enough both to see the value of putting your money away and probably to avoid the worst excesses. But to insist the mass of ordinary people depend on private contingency, well; I guess it depends on whether you think we should have a society more like the USA or like Germany. No prizes for guessing where my vote goes.
Never mind, mate. You've got your country back. Now you can look forward to strong and stable leadership for the next 5 years. What a time to be alive.2 -
Yes and he is quite wrong.PragueAddick said:
Blimey. The most significant thing about this tweet is the author of it.
There was never going to be a polite negotiation over leaving the EU. The EU is far bigger and more powerful than the UK and exists to perpetuate itself through the four freedoms.
There is no reason for the EU to give the UK a good deal and every reason not to. It really makes no difference how 'positive' 'friendly' or 'conciliatory' we are,they are out to screw the UK.
We would be better off walking away from the talks and getting on with working out our future free from the illusion that we can strike a deal with the EU bureaucracy.
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If that were true why doesn't May just revoke the European Communities Act straight away, from which point there would be no law compelling us from an EU perspective to do anything?Southbank said:
Yes and he is quite wrong.PragueAddick said:
Blimey. The most significant thing about this tweet is the author of it.
There was never going to be a polite negotiation over leaving the EU. The EU is far bigger and more powerful than the UK and exists to perpetuate itself through the four freedoms.
There is no reason for the EU to give the UK a good deal and every reason not to. It really makes no difference how 'positive' 'friendly' or 'conciliatory' we are,they are out to screw the UK.
We would be better off walking away from the talks and getting on with working out our future free from the illusion that we can strike a deal with the EU bureaucracy.
After all, no deal is better than a bad deal, apparently.
Or maybe, and in fact far more likely, you're wrong and you have absolutely no idea what the EU wants.1 -
I think this is what is going to happen anyway, no deal (being better than a 'bad' deal), so save time and get it over with.Southbank said:
Yes and he is quite wrong.PragueAddick said:
Blimey. The most significant thing about this tweet is the author of it.
There was never going to be a polite negotiation over leaving the EU. The EU is far bigger and more powerful than the UK and exists to perpetuate itself through the four freedoms.
There is no reason for the EU to give the UK a good deal and every reason not to. It really makes no difference how 'positive' 'friendly' or 'conciliatory' we are,they are out to screw the UK.
We would be better off walking away from the talks and getting on with working out our future free from the illusion that we can strike a deal with the EU bureaucracy.
Except Theresa May really thinks that threatening to ban the export of shortbread and source the sparkling wine from Chile will bring the Europeans round, and she will drag out her failure for two or three years.0 -
She won't do that though, as she has to look like she's trying, else the economy is going to crash hard.0
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25 + 5 = 30
30 * 10 = 3000 -
7+5 times 250
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5+1*25 =150 then 9-7 =2. *150 =3000
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9*7=63 *5=315 - 25+10=3000
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Abbott has now announced to the proposed extra bank Holiday dates -
38th of March
33rd of April
96th of June
45th of August12 -
9*25=215 10*7+5 =3000
