The General Election - June 8th 2017
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"Arguing that you don’t care about the right to privacy because you have nothing to hide is no different than saying you don’t care about free speech because you have nothing to say."15
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Show me some proof it won't work.
If the intelligence services fighting terrorism on behalf of the British public want it, that's good enough for me as I back them.0 -
Why not show the proof it will.0
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No it isn't.Callumcafc said:"Arguing that you don’t care about the right to privacy because you have nothing to hide is no different than saying you don’t care about free speech because you have nothing to say."
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I think we are seeing here, why despite one of the worst election campaigns in living memory the Tories still won.0
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Did they ?Covered End said:I think we are seeing here, why despite one of the worst election campaigns in living memory the Tories still won.
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Last few attacks minus Manchester have been people in a car.Covered End said:Show me some proof it won't work.
If the intelligence services fighting terrorism on behalf of the British public want it, that's good enough for me as I back them.
Why does viewing their internet history stop that?
I'm in favour as long as they have to get a warrant first and have a judge sign it off. Free reign over all our privacy is a no-no.10 -
Apparently he kept clashing with her two advisors and eventually told them where to go because he thought they did not understand basic economics.Cordoban Addick said:Also the Guardian are reporting this.
It is understood that the chancellor Philip Hammond asked for more say over Brexit on his reappointment. On being returned to his job, he tweeted he wanted a deal that “supports British jobs, business and prosperity”.
Which is pretty much what Labour have been saying they would ensure from Brexit. Perhaps more cross party consensus than has been let on.
Incidentally I couldn't work out why May had ostracised Hammond as he came across as one of the more likable and sensible Tories. Anybody know why she did?4 -
Fine with me. Get a warrant, no problem.SELR_addicks said:
Last few attacks minus Manchester have been people in a car.Covered End said:Show me some proof it won't work.
If the intelligence services fighting terrorism on behalf of the British public want it, that's good enough for me as I back them.
Why does viewing their internet history stop that?
I'm in favour as long as they have to get a warrant first and have a judge sign it off. Free reign over all our privacy is a no-no.4 - Sponsored links:
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Righto Supreme Leader.Covered End said:
Fine with me. Get a warrant, no problem.SELR_addicks said:
Last few attacks minus Manchester have been people in a car.Covered End said:Show me some proof it won't work.
If the intelligence services fighting terrorism on behalf of the British public want it, that's good enough for me as I back them.
Why does viewing their internet history stop that?
I'm in favour as long as they have to get a warrant first and have a judge sign it off. Free reign over all our privacy is a no-no.1 -
An analytical view from the US. It is worth listening to.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_EhkTVGlWI 0 -
I know that was the unofficial official reason. But what was it really?Covered End said:
Because of his budget blooper about the self employed and tax.Cordoban Addick said:Also the Guardian are reporting this.
It is understood that the chancellor Philip Hammond asked for more say over Brexit on his reappointment. On being returned to his job, he tweeted he wanted a deal that “supports British jobs, business and prosperity”.
Which is pretty much what Labour have been saying they would ensure from Brexit. Perhaps more cross party consensus than has been let on.
Incidentally I couldn't work out why May had ostracised Hammond as he came across as one of the more likable and sensible Tories. Anybody know why she did?0 -
I know but why, other than the budget cock-up which she must have approved. Was he just a bit to 'wet' for her?MuttleyCAFC said:Had she got her landslide he was toast.
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You can't really "minus" Manchester in this conversation, can you ?SELR_addicks said:
Last few attacks minus Manchester have been people in a car.Covered End said:Show me some proof it won't work.
If the intelligence services fighting terrorism on behalf of the British public want it, that's good enough for me as I back them.
Why does viewing their internet history stop that?
I'm in favour as long as they have to get a warrant first and have a judge sign it off. Free reign over all our privacy is a no-no.1 -
Ahh that makes more sense. Makes me think I was right in my assessment of him then. The only one in her cabinet with some principles and expertise and she would've got rid him because he dared to back his expertise. Not exactly good leadership on her behalf then.mcgrandall said:
Apparently he kept clashing with her two advisors and eventually told them where to go because he thought they did not understand basic economics.Cordoban Addick said:Also the Guardian are reporting this.
It is understood that the chancellor Philip Hammond asked for more say over Brexit on his reappointment. On being returned to his job, he tweeted he wanted a deal that “supports British jobs, business and prosperity”.
Which is pretty much what Labour have been saying they would ensure from Brexit. Perhaps more cross party consensus than has been let on.
Incidentally I couldn't work out why May had ostracised Hammond as he came across as one of the more likable and sensible Tories. Anybody know why she did?0 -
Me too. You've got a warrant, you've got reason for the surveillance. Like a warrant to search a house.Covered End said:
Fine with me. Get a warrant, no problem.SELR_addicks said:
Last few attacks minus Manchester have been people in a car.Covered End said:Show me some proof it won't work.
If the intelligence services fighting terrorism on behalf of the British public want it, that's good enough for me as I back them.
Why does viewing their internet history stop that?
I'm in favour as long as they have to get a warrant first and have a judge sign it off. Free reign over all our privacy is a no-no.
Blanket surveillance is strong no from me.11 -
Well I have no idea how he found out how to build a bomb. It could have been the internet, it also could've been taught to him during his numerous trips to Libya.se9addick said:
You can't really "minus" Manchester in this conversation, can you ?SELR_addicks said:
Last few attacks minus Manchester have been people in a car.Covered End said:Show me some proof it won't work.
If the intelligence services fighting terrorism on behalf of the British public want it, that's good enough for me as I back them.
Why does viewing their internet history stop that?
I'm in favour as long as they have to get a warrant first and have a judge sign it off. Free reign over all our privacy is a no-no.
It's not clear that he'd have been stopped by viewing his internet habits, but more likely than the other attacks.0 -
I thought that was the reason.Cordoban Addick said:
I know that was the unofficial official reason. But what was it really?Covered End said:
Because of his budget blooper about the self employed and tax.Cordoban Addick said:Also the Guardian are reporting this.
It is understood that the chancellor Philip Hammond asked for more say over Brexit on his reappointment. On being returned to his job, he tweeted he wanted a deal that “supports British jobs, business and prosperity”.
Which is pretty much what Labour have been saying they would ensure from Brexit. Perhaps more cross party consensus than has been let on.
Incidentally I couldn't work out why May had ostracised Hammond as he came across as one of the more likable and sensible Tories. Anybody know why she did?0 -
I might have this wrong, but i thought I read somewhere that the received wisdom regarding Philip hammond is that he is thick, but has a touch of the Bill Nighy about him.0
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Do tell more, is a touch of the Bill Nighy a euphemism?seth plum said:I might have this wrong, but i thought I read somewhere that the received wisdom regarding Philip hammond is that he is thick, but has a touch of the Bill Nighy about him.
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Fucking hell....
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It's all playing nicely into Labour's hands... let's hope the coalition of chaos blunders through a couple of months. Should be interesting.4
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Is it true that Sinn Fein have complained that a coalition of DUP would break the Good Friday Agreement and does it?0
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MAYDUP STORYCallumcafc said:7
