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The 2017 Summer Transfer Rumours Thread (Deadline Day from page 264)

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  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 11,983
    Hmmm interesting. Although he did play in the cup in the week.
    Maybe they're easing him back. Maybe he's picked up another niggle. Maybe he's at a hotel in Bexleyheath.
  • Matty Taylor not in Bristol City squad tonight and evidently had a fallout with manager Lee Johnson over not playing as a main striker would hopefully be allowed out on loan scores with both feet and head
    https://youtu.be/X7NBezy4e-k
  • Laddick01
    Laddick01 Posts: 6,362
    Taylor is a very good finisher, but also seems to have more of an all round game compared to someone like Ajose.
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,168
    Laddick01 said:

    Taylor is a very good finisher, but also seems to have more of an all round game compared to someone like Ajose.

    Only scored two more goals than Magennis last season if you discount penalties. Does look a tidy player though and definitely an upgrade on Novak. Would be happy with a squad of Mag, Taylor and Novak. High time we had another Matt in the team too.
  • No inside info but I do think we'll end up with Taylor.
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,254

    Matty Taylor not in Bristol City squad tonight and evidently had a fallout with manager Lee Johnson over not playing as a main striker would hopefully be allowed out on loan scores with both feet and head
    https://youtu.be/X7NBezy4e-k

    At the moment I'm currently LISTENING to this on talkSPORT

    It's the Friday night of a bank holiday. I've got no life whatsoever
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,757
    Would like us to add Taylor but how does he fit into a 1 up front situation?
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,214
    PWP and RHC are enough
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,757
    https://youtu.be/l9bGNQ-7NSo

    This is all of Taylor's goals across three divisions for Bristol Rovers. Start at 10 mins if you want to see his half a season in League One.
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380

    Laddick01 said:

    Taylor is a very good finisher, but also seems to have more of an all round game compared to someone like Ajose.

    Only scored two more goals than Magennis last season if you discount penalties. Does look a tidy player though and definitely an upgrade on Novak. Would be happy with a squad of Mag, Taylor and Novak. High time we had another Matt in the team too.
    I think we won't buy anyone if Novak is staying.
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  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 11,983
    edited August 2017
    Personally I think he's too short to play in our system. Feels like another Ajose.
  • Taylor failed a fitness test on groin strain.
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,467
    edited August 2017

    Taylor failed a fitness test on groin strain.

    He's had injections in recent weeks to get him by. Read he injured it in the summer doing strengthening exercises. Groin injuries tend to stick around and the best way to heal them is rest. He doesn't seem to be given that option at the moment, or doesn't want to rest it.

    Think he'd be worth a punt on loan, but given he's hurt we can't bring him in just to let Novak go. For all of his faults Novak hasn't been battling a groin strain for a month.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,374
    Valley11 said:

    Personally I think he's too short to play in our system. Feels like another Ajose.

    Deon Burton wasn't the tallest but had a good touch, could hold up the ball well and pick a pass.

    Is Taylor purely a poacher or does he have more to his game?
  • uie2
    uie2 Posts: 4,596
    cabbles said:

    Matty Taylor not in Bristol City squad tonight and evidently had a fallout with manager Lee Johnson over not playing as a main striker would hopefully be allowed out on loan scores with both feet and head
    https://youtu.be/X7NBezy4e-k

    At the moment I'm currently LISTENING to this on talkSPORT

    It's the Friday night of a bank holiday. I've got no life whatsoever
    Yes a different type of player to Magennis but better ! Soz Josh
  • uie2
    uie2 Posts: 4,596
    Valley11 said:

    Personally I think he's too short to play in our system. Feels like another Ajose.

    He looks a million times better an Ajose! He looks brilliant in the air too!
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,954
    Watching the Matty Taylor video, I was so impressed how he scored every time - never missed a single chance.
    With a 1 in 1 scoring record, he's much more clinical than Magennis.


    Seriously though, good anticipation and movement, knows where the goal is, although plays for himself.
    He's not the team player that Magennis is and can't imagine he's much cop at defending set pieces in his own box.

    Not quite sure if he's the right man as the lone striker in our current 4-2-3-1 set up but he certainly seems a confident finisher.
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    Oggy Red said:

    Watching the Matty Taylor video, I was so impressed how he scored every time - never missed a single chance.
    With a 1 in 1 scoring record, he's much more clinical than Magennis.


    Seriously though, good anticipation and movement, knows where the goal is, although plays for himself.
    He's not the team player that Magennis is and can't imagine he's much cop at defending set pieces in his own box.

    Not quite sure if he's the right man as the lone striker in our current 4-2-3-1 set up but he certainly seems a confident finisher.

    He and Magennis'll form a good strike partnership under our next manager, playing 442.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,839
    SDAddick said:

    Taylor failed a fitness test on groin strain.

    He's had injections in recent weeks to get him by. Read he injured it in the summer doing strengthening exercises. Groin injuries tend to stick around and the best way to heal them is rest. He doesn't seem to be given that option at the moment, or doesn't want to rest it.

    Think he'd be worth a punt on loan, but given he's hurt we can't bring him in just to let Novak go. For all of his faults Novak hasn't been battling a groin strain for a month.
    An injured player is exactly who we don't need, we don't have the depth up front to allow him to rest for a month
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,467

    SDAddick said:

    Taylor failed a fitness test on groin strain.

    He's had injections in recent weeks to get him by. Read he injured it in the summer doing strengthening exercises. Groin injuries tend to stick around and the best way to heal them is rest. He doesn't seem to be given that option at the moment, or doesn't want to rest it.

    Think he'd be worth a punt on loan, but given he's hurt we can't bring him in just to let Novak go. For all of his faults Novak hasn't been battling a groin strain for a month.
    An injured player is exactly who we don't need, we don't have the depth up front to allow him to rest for a month
    In an ideal world I agree. But look, we're shopping in England and only in England it seems. There are, what four or five candidates. It's either a chance with an injured Taylor or hoping Wigan accept a bid for Grigg which frankly I can't see them doing.

    Look at the approach they're taking with Reeves, which I think is the smart one. Yes he might be able to play 15 minutes tomorrow (today), but the season is a marathon not a sprint. Could be the same with Taylor. Yes you could try rushing him back for Oldham, or you could take a chance with Novak up front and Reeco on the bench with the hope that it pays off with a fit Taylor the rest of the season.

    Again, all hypothetical.

    We have had a very good summer. Clarke looks a real good signing. Fosu, at 22, looks not just a great find for this year, but potentially for years to come. DaSilva is exactly the left back we need in our formation. If we can get him fit and keep him fit, and that's not guaranteed, Reeves should be very good in this league. Plus, we've got JFC, Kashi, and Bauer all with proper pre-seasons behind them.

    That said, this is the problem with only buying British. There is limited supply and high demand, and thus the selling club, if they're willing to let go of a player at all, sets the terms entirely.
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  • Bangkokaddick
    Bangkokaddick Posts: 4,295
    SDAddick said:

    SDAddick said:

    Taylor failed a fitness test on groin strain.

    He's had injections in recent weeks to get him by. Read he injured it in the summer doing strengthening exercises. Groin injuries tend to stick around and the best way to heal them is rest. He doesn't seem to be given that option at the moment, or doesn't want to rest it.

    Think he'd be worth a punt on loan, but given he's hurt we can't bring him in just to let Novak go. For all of his faults Novak hasn't been battling a groin strain for a month.
    An injured player is exactly who we don't need, we don't have the depth up front to allow him to rest for a month
    In an ideal world I agree. But look, we're shopping in England and only in England it seems. There are, what four or five candidates. It's either a chance with an injured Taylor or hoping Wigan accept a bid for Grigg which frankly I can't see them doing.

    Look at the approach they're taking with Reeves, which I think is the smart one. Yes he might be able to play 15 minutes tomorrow (today), but the season is a marathon not a sprint. Could be the same with Taylor. Yes you could try rushing him back for Oldham, or you could take a chance with Novak up front and Reeco on the bench with the hope that it pays off with a fit Taylor the rest of the season.

    Again, all hypothetical.

    We have had a very good summer. Clarke looks a real good signing. Fosu, at 22, looks not just a great find for this year, but potentially for years to come. DaSilva is exactly the left back we need in our formation. If we can get him fit and keep him fit, and that's not guaranteed, Reeves should be very good in this league. Plus, we've got JFC, Kashi, and Bauer all with proper pre-seasons behind them.

    That said, this is the problem with only buying British. There is limited supply and high demand, and thus the selling club, if they're willing to let go of a player at all, sets the terms entirely.
    It does seem that they have gone from one extreme to another.

    Where's Thomas Driessen when you want him? There must be a top striker in the Luxembourg second division that has slipped our radar.
  • daveydanger
    daveydanger Posts: 1,338

    SDAddick said:

    SDAddick said:

    Taylor failed a fitness test on groin strain.

    He's had injections in recent weeks to get him by. Read he injured it in the summer doing strengthening exercises. Groin injuries tend to stick around and the best way to heal them is rest. He doesn't seem to be given that option at the moment, or doesn't want to rest it.

    Think he'd be worth a punt on loan, but given he's hurt we can't bring him in just to let Novak go. For all of his faults Novak hasn't been battling a groin strain for a month.
    An injured player is exactly who we don't need, we don't have the depth up front to allow him to rest for a month
    In an ideal world I agree. But look, we're shopping in England and only in England it seems. There are, what four or five candidates. It's either a chance with an injured Taylor or hoping Wigan accept a bid for Grigg which frankly I can't see them doing.

    Look at the approach they're taking with Reeves, which I think is the smart one. Yes he might be able to play 15 minutes tomorrow (today), but the season is a marathon not a sprint. Could be the same with Taylor. Yes you could try rushing him back for Oldham, or you could take a chance with Novak up front and Reeco on the bench with the hope that it pays off with a fit Taylor the rest of the season.

    Again, all hypothetical.

    We have had a very good summer. Clarke looks a real good signing. Fosu, at 22, looks not just a great find for this year, but potentially for years to come. DaSilva is exactly the left back we need in our formation. If we can get him fit and keep him fit, and that's not guaranteed, Reeves should be very good in this league. Plus, we've got JFC, Kashi, and Bauer all with proper pre-seasons behind them.

    That said, this is the problem with only buying British. There is limited supply and high demand, and thus the selling club, if they're willing to let go of a player at all, sets the terms entirely.
    It does seem that they have gone from one extreme to another.

    Where's Thomas Driessen when you want him? There must be a top striker in the Luxembourg second division that has slipped our radar.
    ...probably uses Melexis electrical parts.
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,954
    edited August 2017
    SDAddick said:



    Look at the approach they're taking with Reeves, which I think is the smart one. Yes he might be able to play 15 minutes tomorrow (today), but the season is a marathon not a sprint. Could be the same with Taylor. Yes you could try rushing him back for Oldham, or you could take a chance with Novak up front and Reeco on the bench with the hope that it pays off with a fit Taylor the rest of the season.

    It's an interesting point you touch on there, SD.


    Do we sign an injured player before the window closes, trusting that we've got the player we want to augment the squad (even though he's unfit to play for a period) as we can't now cover any injuries by bringing in an 'emergency' loan.

    Now clubs have to think ahead and plan to cover any player contingencies before the transfer window closes.
    The only other option is to bring in free agents - who anyway generally need a period to catch up with fitness levels or play the untried kids.

  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    It's a long season and I would rather have someone like Taylor for 35 games than a youngster from a prem club for 40 games.

    Taylor played midweek so he can't be far off fitness
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,467

    It's a long season and I would rather have someone like Taylor for 35 games than a youngster from a prem club for 40 games.

    Taylor played midweek so he can't be far off fitness

    Agreed.

    But I'm still not convinced Bristol City will let him go. But we can only hope.
  • SDAddick said:

    It's a long season and I would rather have someone like Taylor for 35 games than a youngster from a prem club for 40 games.

    Taylor played midweek so he can't be far off fitness

    Agreed.

    But I'm still not convinced Bristol City will let him go. But we can only hope.
    Id be very surprised if a club let one of their main four (yes even if fourth choice) Strikers leave at this stage of the season without having a backup in place as that in turn will leave that said club desperately trying to find someone themselves.

    Because of that I can see us being forced to sign a Premier League youngster if anyone now as it'll be a case of the said club wanting to send their kids out to gain experience in the lower leagues
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,467

    SDAddick said:

    It's a long season and I would rather have someone like Taylor for 35 games than a youngster from a prem club for 40 games.

    Taylor played midweek so he can't be far off fitness

    Agreed.

    But I'm still not convinced Bristol City will let him go. But we can only hope.
    Id be very surprised if a club let one of their main four (yes even if fourth choice) Strikers leave at this stage of the season without having a backup in place as that in turn will leave that said club desperately trying to find someone themselves.

    Because of that I can see us being forced to sign a Premier League youngster if anyone now as it'll be a case of the said club wanting to send their kids out to gain experience in the lower leagues
    I agree I think this is the far more likely outcome. It may not be the worst, look at Mavididi and DaSilva last year. Both were raw but both brought qualities you wouldn't get in any old lower league player. I'd rather have Taylor or Grigg, but I'd be open minded to taking a chance on a youngster over paying 1m for someone like Akinde or Godden.

    The good news is this will be a striker who will come in as third choice, meaning we don't need to rely solely on them.

    Yes it'd be great if we got an experienced center forward who has scored goals at this level, but again can't see it happening.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,839
    SDAddick said:

    SDAddick said:

    It's a long season and I would rather have someone like Taylor for 35 games than a youngster from a prem club for 40 games.

    Taylor played midweek so he can't be far off fitness

    Agreed.

    But I'm still not convinced Bristol City will let him go. But we can only hope.
    Id be very surprised if a club let one of their main four (yes even if fourth choice) Strikers leave at this stage of the season without having a backup in place as that in turn will leave that said club desperately trying to find someone themselves.

    Because of that I can see us being forced to sign a Premier League youngster if anyone now as it'll be a case of the said club wanting to send their kids out to gain experience in the lower leagues
    I agree I think this is the far more likely outcome. It may not be the worst, look at Mavididi and DaSilva last year. Both were raw but both brought qualities you wouldn't get in any old lower league player. I'd rather have Taylor or Grigg, but I'd be open minded to taking a chance on a youngster over paying 1m for someone like Akinde or Godden.

    The good news is this will be a striker who will come in as third choice, meaning we don't need to rely solely on them.

    Yes it'd be great if we got an experienced center forward who has scored goals at this level, but again can't see it happening.
    If Novak leaves, he'd be second choice...
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,667

    SDAddick said:

    SDAddick said:

    It's a long season and I would rather have someone like Taylor for 35 games than a youngster from a prem club for 40 games.

    Taylor played midweek so he can't be far off fitness

    Agreed.

    But I'm still not convinced Bristol City will let him go. But we can only hope.
    Id be very surprised if a club let one of their main four (yes even if fourth choice) Strikers leave at this stage of the season without having a backup in place as that in turn will leave that said club desperately trying to find someone themselves.

    Because of that I can see us being forced to sign a Premier League youngster if anyone now as it'll be a case of the said club wanting to send their kids out to gain experience in the lower leagues
    I agree I think this is the far more likely outcome. It may not be the worst, look at Mavididi and DaSilva last year. Both were raw but both brought qualities you wouldn't get in any old lower league player. I'd rather have Taylor or Grigg, but I'd be open minded to taking a chance on a youngster over paying 1m for someone like Akinde or Godden.

    The good news is this will be a striker who will come in as third choice, meaning we don't need to rely solely on them.

    Yes it'd be great if we got an experienced center forward who has scored goals at this level, but again can't see it happening.
    If Novak leaves, he'd be second choice...
    If Novak stays he'd be second choice
  • dickplumb
    dickplumb Posts: 4,835
    I don't think we will get Grigg or Taylor. More likely a loan deal from a Premiership or Championship Club.