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Chris Solly - joining our academy coaching staff says Cawley (p34)

Frontline9
Frontline9 Posts: 764
edited July 2024 in General Charlton
He is the quietest captain i’ve ever known. We were shocking for the first 35 mins today and not once did he wake us up, shout at anyone or do anything that I’d expect of a leader who’s team were all over the place.

I love Solly but surely the armband would be much better around Pearce or Bauer. A more commanding figure than Solly. Someone who’ll take control and get at players when we’re not performing.
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  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,424
    edited September 2017
    Ask Robinson if he can have some lessons with Johnson, as he's still around the building
  • Talal
    Talal Posts: 11,569
    I agree but having the armband or not shouldn't make a difference to players like Pearce taking control. They know he is quiet and should just assume the role.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 96,177
    Must have missed the part where either Kashi or Forster-Caskey did something wrong in the opening 30mins and Solly ran up to them arms raised screaming
  • WSS
    WSS Posts: 25,118
    May as well get Brian Blessed in to captain us if all it takes is to shout a bit
  • AddickFC81
    AddickFC81 Posts: 4,053
    I love the lad to bits but he natuarally a very shy person. That is not his fault. He is what he is. Pearce is probably better suited to the roll.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 96,177
    AddickFC81 said:

    I love the lad to bits but he natuarally a very shy person. That is not his fault. He is what he is. Pearce is probably better suited to the roll.

    He appears camera shy etc. but is he shy around the rest of the squad?

    I'm quite a shy person myself but know me well and I'm someone that people dont want to piss off!!
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 34,337
    Frontline9 said:

    He is the quietest captain i’ve ever known. We were shocking for the first 35 mins today and not once did he wake us up, shout at anyone or do anything that I’d expect of a leader who’s team were all over the place.

    I love Solly but surely the armband would be much better around Pearce or Bauer. A more commanding figure than Solly. Someone who’ll take control and get at players when we’re not performing.

    been saying this from the start of the season.
  • Powell Is Pleasant
    Powell Is Pleasant Posts: 1,443
    I tend to disagree. You can be a leader without shouting at people.

    Anyone can pump their fist in the air or wear a bandage on their head when they suffer an injury. Leadership can be more about being a calm, disciplined, professional presence on the pitch. Most fans seem to place more importance on the former.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,747
    Talal said:

    I agree but having the armband or not shouldn't make a difference to players like Pearce taking control. They know he is quiet and should just assume the role.

    This, I'm not sure what difference changing captain would really make.
  • covered_end_junior
    covered_end_junior Posts: 4,559
    Don’t think it makes a difference in the slightest tbh. Being captain is more of an off the field role, Solly having the armband won’t stop the natural leaders like Pearce shouting orders etc.

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  • Frontline9
    Frontline9 Posts: 764
    We needed someone to take control. We were all over the place and needed a boot up the ass. Yes Robinson can bark orders from the sideline but for me I’d like to have seen more from Solly. We were extremely slow out the blocks and let it go on for too long whilst our captain says nothing
  • cafc_harry
    cafc_harry Posts: 3,366
    edited September 2017
    Frontline9 said:

    We needed someone to take control. We were all over the place and needed a boot up the ass. Yes Robinson can bark orders from the sideline but for me I’d like to have seen more from Solly. We were extremely slow out the blocks and let it go on for too long whilst our captain says nothing

    Load of rubbish, if he didn’t say anything and the players didn’t trust him to be captain he wouldn’t be one would he? What experience have you got to say he’s not loud enough.
  • Frontline9
    Frontline9 Posts: 764
    cafc_harry said:

    Frontline9 said:

    We needed someone to take control. We were all over the place and needed a boot up the ass. Yes Robinson can bark orders from the sideline but for me I’d like to have seen more from Solly. We were extremely slow out the blocks and let it go on for too long whilst our captain says nothing

    Load of rubbish, if he didn’t say anything and the players didn’t trust him to be captain he wouldn’t be one would he? What experience have you got to say he’s not loud enough.
    Eh?
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,397
    edited September 2017
    Don't think it really matters to be honest.

    In this day and age players will play the way they want to, and those who bark orders etc will do that regardless of whether they have the armband or not. Bauer, Pearce etc will still take on leadership roles throughout the game.

    Football isnt so much about blood and thunder and having a go at other players in 2017 - it's a much more technical game.

    I expect the reason Solly is our captain is largely because he is a long serving player who fans can identify with and therefore he has earned the status, and I'm fine with that.

    Infact one of the very few things about Charlton I've been able to identify with over the past few years is the fact that our captains (Jackson/Solly) are proper Charlton stalwarts.
  • Gravesend_Addick
    Gravesend_Addick Posts: 7,334
    Oh leave him alone. He's only 5 ft 3
  • McBobbin
    McBobbin Posts: 12,090
    Kinsella wasn't exactly loud. Players respected him though
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,859
    Straw clutching. Ultimately we were without our 4 main creative players when Clarke went off and Robinson got the changes wrong yesterday. Those factors matched with a very slow start were the reasons we didn't win yesterday.

    I wouldn't have picked Solly as captain this year but I don't think it's hindering us
  • OhEddieYouds
    OhEddieYouds Posts: 744
    We're not where we are because Solly doesn't shout enough. We're where we are because the board has once again failed to invest in the players/squad we need to ensure a playoff/auto place i.e. we wouldn't pay Cameron Stewart's wages (so have to play youth players like KAG who are not good enough) & we would not pay the money needed to sign any of the strikers we were interested in i.e. Akinde, Godden, Grigg etc.

    Keep trying to do things on the cheap (I expect this is our lowest salary level we have had for years having released so many players) and you will keep coming up short. Pretty simple really.
  • bellz2002
    bellz2002 Posts: 1,368
    I'm sure I saw Solly shout and have an argument with the bench possibly Jackson in the first half. Sitting in East Stand so I could have got this completely wrong.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,451
    Solly does seem to be more vocal now, though he will never be an obvious Captain in the way Jacko is, and Jacko is still the club captain anyway

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  • harveys_gardener
    harveys_gardener Posts: 7,038
    We need a vociferous captain to bollock the full-backs for letting so many crosses over, particularly from the right. Oh!
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,272
    ForeverAddickted said:

    AddickFC81 said:

    I love the lad to bits but he natuarally a very shy person. That is not his fault. He is what he is. Pearce is probably better suited to the roll.

    He appears camera shy etc. but is he shy around the rest of the squad?

    I'm quite a shy person myself but know me well and I'm someone that people dont want to piss off!!
    Well he's painfully shy at the POTY "dos".
  • thai malaysia addick
    thai malaysia addick Posts: 18,532
    Chrissy\\\'s Army!! said:

    Oh leave him alone. He's only 5 ft 3

    And he's better than John Terry
  • Addickted2TheReds
    Addickted2TheReds Posts: 7,783
    Covered End said:

    ForeverAddickted said:

    AddickFC81 said:

    I love the lad to bits but he natuarally a very shy person. That is not his fault. He is what he is. Pearce is probably better suited to the roll.

    He appears camera shy etc. but is he shy around the rest of the squad?

    I'm quite a shy person myself but know me well and I'm someone that people dont want to piss off!!
    Well he's painfully shy at the POTY "dos".
    Was sat on his table at the end of the relegation season and he was great value.
  • Elthamaddick
    Elthamaddick Posts: 15,964
    makes no difference who wears the armband really, I'm sure Solly is well respected senior pro.

    having the armband or not shouldn't stop Pearce acting like a captain on the pitch and I doubt it does.
  • agim
    agim Posts: 1,141
    The captain is a massively important role on and off the pitch. He's the respected link between the players and the manager. I believe you do need a certain quality to be a captain.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,747
    agim said:

    The captain is a massively important role on and off the pitch. He's the respected link between the players and the manager. I believe you do need a certain quality to be a captain.

    So what are we missing out on by say Pearce wearing the armband rather than Solly? Are we playing worse because of it?
  • palarsehater
    palarsehater Posts: 12,323
    having a squad with the depth and strength of a poppadom doesn't help matters, solly is fine for the role, charlton lad through and through and i'm happy with him.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,569
    edited September 2017
    Tries to lead by example, puts in challenges covers plenty of ground, ultimately is not Captain material for me as he does not give the players either the bollocking or pat on the back they need at times.

    I personally would rather Bauer or Pearce.

    I would say Ricky is an option too as winning is everything for him, though discipline could be his downfall...
  • agim
    agim Posts: 1,141
    Elthamaddick said:

    makes no difference who wears the armband really, I'm sure Solly is well respected senior pro.

    having the armband or not shouldn't stop Pearce acting like a captain on the pitch and I doubt it does.

    Scoham said:

    agim said:

    The captain is a massively important role on and off the pitch. He's the respected link between the players and the manager. I believe you do need a certain quality to be a captain.

    So what are we missing out on by say Pearce wearing the armband rather than Solly? Are we playing worse because of it?
    It's hard to say without knowing the individuals. You'll see how good a captain is in times of trouble, the last 10 mins of a important game or when the team needs to buck it's ideas up.
    I've had captains ask to take the HT team talk because they weren't happy with the first half and 9 times out of 10 the performance is much improved. The team has to respect him and so does the manager.

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