Chris Solly - joining our academy coaching staff says Cawley (p34)

Frontline9

He is the quietest captain i’ve ever known. We were shocking for the first 35 mins today and not once did he wake us up, shout at anyone or do anything that I’d expect of a leader who’s team were all over the place.

I love Solly but surely the armband would be much better around Pearce or Bauer. A more commanding figure than Solly. Someone who’ll take control and get at players when we’re not performing.

shirty5

Ask Robinson if he can have some lessons with Johnson, as he's still around the building

Talal

I agree but having the armband or not shouldn't make a difference to players like Pearce taking control. They know he is quiet and should just assume the role.

ForeverAddickted

Must have missed the part where either Kashi or Forster-Caskey did something wrong in the opening 30mins and Solly ran up to them arms raised screaming

WSS

May as well get Brian Blessed in to captain us if all it takes is to shout a bit

AddickFC81

I love the lad to bits but he natuarally a very shy person. That is not his fault. He is what he is. Pearce is probably better suited to the roll.

ForeverAddickted

AddickFC81 said:

I love the lad to bits but he natuarally a very shy person. That is not his fault. He is what he is. Pearce is probably better suited to the roll.

He appears camera shy etc. but is he shy around the rest of the squad?

I'm quite a shy person myself but know me well and I'm someone that people dont want to piss off!!

golfaddick

Frontline9 said:

He is the quietest captain i’ve ever known. We were shocking for the first 35 mins today and not once did he wake us up, shout at anyone or do anything that I’d expect of a leader who’s team were all over the place.

I love Solly but surely the armband would be much better around Pearce or Bauer. A more commanding figure than Solly. Someone who’ll take control and get at players when we’re not performing.

been saying this from the start of the season.

Powell Is Pleasant

I tend to disagree. You can be a leader without shouting at people.

Anyone can pump their fist in the air or wear a bandage on their head when they suffer an injury. Leadership can be more about being a calm, disciplined, professional presence on the pitch. Most fans seem to place more importance on the former.

Scoham

Talal said:

I agree but having the armband or not shouldn't make a difference to players like Pearce taking control. They know he is quiet and should just assume the role.

This, I'm not sure what difference changing captain would really make.

covered_end_junior

Don’t think it makes a difference in the slightest tbh. Being captain is more of an off the field role, Solly having the armband won’t stop the natural leaders like Pearce shouting orders etc.

Frontline9

We needed someone to take control. We were all over the place and needed a boot up the ass. Yes Robinson can bark orders from the sideline but for me I’d like to have seen more from Solly. We were extremely slow out the blocks and let it go on for too long whilst our captain says nothing

cafc_harry

Frontline9 said:

We needed someone to take control. We were all over the place and needed a boot up the ass. Yes Robinson can bark orders from the sideline but for me I’d like to have seen more from Solly. We were extremely slow out the blocks and let it go on for too long whilst our captain says nothing

Load of rubbish, if he didn’t say anything and the players didn’t trust him to be captain he wouldn’t be one would he? What experience have you got to say he’s not loud enough.

Frontline9

cafc_harry said:

Frontline9 said:

We needed someone to take control. We were all over the place and needed a boot up the ass. Yes Robinson can bark orders from the sideline but for me I’d like to have seen more from Solly. We were extremely slow out the blocks and let it go on for too long whilst our captain says nothing

Load of rubbish, if he didn’t say anything and the players didn’t trust him to be captain he wouldn’t be one would he? What experience have you got to say he’s not loud enough.

Eh?

cafctom

Don't think it really matters to be honest.

In this day and age players will play the way they want to, and those who bark orders etc will do that regardless of whether they have the armband or not. Bauer, Pearce etc will still take on leadership roles throughout the game.

Football isnt so much about blood and thunder and having a go at other players in 2017 - it's a much more technical game.

I expect the reason Solly is our captain is largely because he is a long serving player who fans can identify with and therefore he has earned the status, and I'm fine with that.

Infact one of the very few things about Charlton I've been able to identify with over the past few years is the fact that our captains (Jackson/Solly) are proper Charlton stalwarts.

Gravesend_Addick

Oh leave him alone. He's only 5 ft 3

McBobbin

Kinsella wasn't exactly loud. Players respected him though

wmcf123

Straw clutching. Ultimately we were without our 4 main creative players when Clarke went off and Robinson got the changes wrong yesterday. Those factors matched with a very slow start were the reasons we didn't win yesterday.

I wouldn't have picked Solly as captain this year but I don't think it's hindering us

OhEddieYouds

We're not where we are because Solly doesn't shout enough. We're where we are because the board has once again failed to invest in the players/squad we need to ensure a playoff/auto place i.e. we wouldn't pay Cameron Stewart's wages (so have to play youth players like KAG who are not good enough) & we would not pay the money needed to sign any of the strikers we were interested in i.e. Akinde, Godden, Grigg etc.

Keep trying to do things on the cheap (I expect this is our lowest salary level we have had for years having released so many players) and you will keep coming up short. Pretty simple really.

bellz2002

I'm sure I saw Solly shout and have an argument with the bench possibly Jackson in the first half. Sitting in East Stand so I could have got this completely wrong.

killerandflash

Solly does seem to be more vocal now, though he will never be an obvious Captain in the way Jacko is, and Jacko is still the club captain anyway

harveys_gardener

We need a vociferous captain to bollock the full-backs for letting so many crosses over, particularly from the right. Oh!

Covered End

ForeverAddickted said:

AddickFC81 said:

I love the lad to bits but he natuarally a very shy person. That is not his fault. He is what he is. Pearce is probably better suited to the roll.

He appears camera shy etc. but is he shy around the rest of the squad?

I'm quite a shy person myself but know me well and I'm someone that people dont want to piss off!!

Well he's painfully shy at the POTY "dos".

thai malaysia addick

Chrissy\\\'s Army!! said:

Oh leave him alone. He's only 5 ft 3

And he's better than John Terry

Addickted2TheReds

Covered End said:

ForeverAddickted said:

AddickFC81 said:

I love the lad to bits but he natuarally a very shy person. That is not his fault. He is what he is. Pearce is probably better suited to the roll.

He appears camera shy etc. but is he shy around the rest of the squad?

I'm quite a shy person myself but know me well and I'm someone that people dont want to piss off!!

Well he's painfully shy at the POTY "dos".

Was sat on his table at the end of the relegation season and he was great value.

Elthamaddick

makes no difference who wears the armband really, I'm sure Solly is well respected senior pro.

having the armband or not shouldn't stop Pearce acting like a captain on the pitch and I doubt it does.

agim

The captain is a massively important role on and off the pitch. He's the respected link between the players and the manager. I believe you do need a certain quality to be a captain.

Scoham

agim said:

The captain is a massively important role on and off the pitch. He's the respected link between the players and the manager. I believe you do need a certain quality to be a captain.

So what are we missing out on by say Pearce wearing the armband rather than Solly? Are we playing worse because of it?

palarsehater

having a squad with the depth and strength of a poppadom doesn't help matters, solly is fine for the role, charlton lad through and through and i'm happy with him.

Dazzler21

Tries to lead by example, puts in challenges covers plenty of ground, ultimately is not Captain material for me as he does not give the players either the bollocking or pat on the back they need at times.

I personally would rather Bauer or Pearce.

I would say Ricky is an option too as winning is everything for him, though discipline could be his downfall...

agim

Elthamaddick said:

makes no difference who wears the armband really, I'm sure Solly is well respected senior pro.

having the armband or not shouldn't stop Pearce acting like a captain on the pitch and I doubt it does.

Scoham said:

agim said:

The captain is a massively important role on and off the pitch. He's the respected link between the players and the manager. I believe you do need a certain quality to be a captain.

So what are we missing out on by say Pearce wearing the armband rather than Solly? Are we playing worse because of it?

It's hard to say without knowing the individuals. You'll see how good a captain is in times of trouble, the last 10 mins of a important game or when the team needs to buck it's ideas up.
I've had captains ask to take the HT team talk because they weren't happy with the first half and 9 times out of 10 the performance is much improved. The team has to respect him and so does the manager.