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Chris Solly - joining our academy coaching staff says Cawley (p34)

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  • edited July 9
    Welcome back Chris Solly. I really don't know his personal circumstances why it ended so badly but I think he can be a real asset to our academy boys.
    Agree, I would like to hear his story and then move on.

    I get to hear many stories through my son about contracts from 1st year scholars to seasoned professionals and the complexities are hard to work out.
    Can't say names for obvious reasons but two lads from the same independent academy get taken on by premier teams. Both turned 18 earlier this year. One gets a contract worth 400k a year while the other gets a one year contract on 40k a year. Basically the lad on the less money still has to prove himself and it appears that his agent, parents and himself believe it may be best to get the superior coaching at the Premier club for another year rather than dropping down and getting more money down the pyramid at this stage. The lad on the bigger wages still has to prove himself but I believe there were many suitors which helps.

    Still don't think fans realize the difference in contracts and how despite the Bosman ruling it's still a real battle between players and their employer. Again I'm not talking about the star players who have many choices.
  • The fact of the matter was he refused to be involved when he could of been useful for his own personal benefit, its the same situation as Taylor. I understand why they did it but don't agree with it.

    I think we all know why Solly gets an easier time than Taylor even though they both refused to play whilst under contract. "one of our boys" club.
  • edited July 9
    Someone who put his own interests over that of the firm he works for, that must have only ever happened in these two instances, shameful!.

    Disappointing but understandable.
  • How many times was he in the match day squad, during the last 3 months of his contract? Bowyer never seem to pick him.
  • Dansk_Red said:
    How many times was he in the match day squad, during the last 3 months of his contract? Bowyer never seem to pick him.
    Chris Solly - Stats 19/20 | Transfermarkt
  • Dansk_Red said:
    How many times was he in the match day squad, during the last 3 months of his contract? Bowyer never seem to pick him.
    Thats alright then.

    Wasn’t he club captain too?
  • Dansk_Red said:
    How many times was he in the match day squad, during the last 3 months of his contract? Bowyer never seem to pick him.
    Chris Solly - Stats 19/20 | Transfermarkt
    Thanks,it looks like he was not going to be picked unlike Taylor. In any case he deserves a 2nd chance after the service he gave to the club over the years. 
  • se9addick said:
    Dansk_Red said:
    How many times was he in the match day squad, during the last 3 months of his contract? Bowyer never seem to pick him.
    Thats alright then.

    Wasn’t he club captain too?
    Yes but in my eyes he was a Charlton boy from a young age and put his body on the line with his knee injuries .As already stated he hardly played in 3 months while the money grabber was playing regularly that’s the difference for me 😊
  • Hal1x said:
    Someone who put his own interests over that of the firm he works for, that must have only ever happened in these two instances, shameful!.

    Disappointing but understandable.
    I think we can all understand why they did it but why is it one gets more heat than the other, I think we all know why.
  • The fact of the matter was he refused to be involved when he could of been useful for his own personal benefit, its the same situation as Taylor. I understand why they did it but don't agree with it.

    I think we all know why Solly gets an easier time than Taylor even though they both refused to play whilst under contract. "one of our boys" club.
    It’s probably because if Solly had played we still would have been relegated, if Taylor had played then we would have stayed up

    I’m not even sure Solly would have played a game anyway, Matthews and Oshilaja were both better options at full back at the time 
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  • I think that Solly’s actions were out of character, whereas Taylor always seemed to relish being in the public eye, and acted in a way which certainly didn’t surprise me.
    Personally, I bear no malice towards Solly, whereas I would not give Taylor the time of day.

  • Surely as club captain he made it easier for Taylor to do it yet CS gets a pass?

    and all this loyal stuff is a stretch, if he wasn’t so injury prone he would have been off years before, Charlton kept hold of him despite his injury record. We could have released him a number of times but kept renewing his contract out of loyalty and he turned around and pissed in our pocket 
  • NabySarr said:
    The fact of the matter was he refused to be involved when he could of been useful for his own personal benefit, its the same situation as Taylor. I understand why they did it but don't agree with it.

    I think we all know why Solly gets an easier time than Taylor even though they both refused to play whilst under contract. "one of our boys" club.
    It’s probably because if Solly had played we still would have been relegated, if Taylor had played then we would have stayed up

    I’m not even sure Solly would have played a game anyway, Matthews and Oshilaja were both better options at full back at the time 
    I'm sorry thats just nonsense that we would have played we would have stayed up our team as a whole was poor, he scored 11 goals that season and half of which was penalties (I believe), would he have been useful ? yes. Would we have stayed up probably not.

    So there was even less of a reason for Solly to refuse to play ?
  • I think that Solly’s actions were out of character, whereas Taylor always seemed to relish being in the public eye, and acted in a way which certainly didn’t surprise me.
    Personally, I bear no malice towards Solly, whereas I would not give Taylor the time of day.

    Maybe but all i saw was one give there reasons for refusing (which i understand but dont agree with), whilst Solly went radio silence.
  • NabySarr said:
    The fact of the matter was he refused to be involved when he could of been useful for his own personal benefit, its the same situation as Taylor. I understand why they did it but don't agree with it.

    I think we all know why Solly gets an easier time than Taylor even though they both refused to play whilst under contract. "one of our boys" club.
    It’s probably because if Solly had played we still would have been relegated, if Taylor had played then we would have stayed up

    I’m not even sure Solly would have played a game anyway, Matthews and Oshilaja were both better options at full back at the time 
    I'm sorry thats just nonsense that we would have played we would have stayed up our team as a whole was poor, he scored 11 goals that season and half of which was penalties (I believe), would he have been useful ? yes. Would we have stayed up probably not.

    So there was even less of a reason for Solly to refuse to play ?
    We’d have easily stayed up if Taylor had played, 1 more goal would have done it. We had Bonne and Hemed starting games up front ffs!!! He scored 11 goals despite being injured for quite a stretch of the season and then missing the last bit, but not to mention the rest of his game that made the whole team better. 
  • NabySarr said:
    The fact of the matter was he refused to be involved when he could of been useful for his own personal benefit, its the same situation as Taylor. I understand why they did it but don't agree with it.

    I think we all know why Solly gets an easier time than Taylor even though they both refused to play whilst under contract. "one of our boys" club.
    It’s probably because if Solly had played we still would have been relegated, if Taylor had played then we would have stayed up

    I’m not even sure Solly would have played a game anyway, Matthews and Oshilaja were both better options at full back at the time 
    I still don't understand why Solly wasn't in the dressing room, as he was the club captain, and a senior pro in that team.
  • NabySarr said:
    NabySarr said:
    The fact of the matter was he refused to be involved when he could of been useful for his own personal benefit, its the same situation as Taylor. I understand why they did it but don't agree with it.

    I think we all know why Solly gets an easier time than Taylor even though they both refused to play whilst under contract. "one of our boys" club.
    It’s probably because if Solly had played we still would have been relegated, if Taylor had played then we would have stayed up

    I’m not even sure Solly would have played a game anyway, Matthews and Oshilaja were both better options at full back at the time 
    I'm sorry thats just nonsense that we would have played we would have stayed up our team as a whole was poor, he scored 11 goals that season and half of which was penalties (I believe), would he have been useful ? yes. Would we have stayed up probably not.

    So there was even less of a reason for Solly to refuse to play ?
    We’d have easily stayed up if Taylor had played, 1 more goal would have done it. We had Bonne and Hemed starting games up front ffs!!! He scored 11 goals despite being injured for quite a stretch of the season and then missing the last bit, but not to mention the rest of his game that made the whole team better. 
    Half of those goals were penalties. There was no guarantees we would get a pen ? He got the same amount of goals as Bonne ? 
  • Dansk_Red said:
    Dansk_Red said:
    How many times was he in the match day squad, during the last 3 months of his contract? Bowyer never seem to pick him.
    Chris Solly - Stats 19/20 | Transfermarkt
    Thanks,it looks like he was not going to be picked unlike Taylor. In any case he deserves a 2nd chance after the service he gave to the club over the years. 
    Solly will have to turn up in disguise on a matchday.
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  • Because one was our first choice centre forward and best player and the other was a reserve right back who would have played exactly 90 minutes in the run-in and wasn't even missed on the occasion he would have been used. I didn't like Solly doing that but it's not enough to offset the seven or so years of fantastic service he gave us. Taylor didn't quite manage to complete two seasons for us and we needed him desperately. Plus Taylor's a prick.
    Make that 12 seasons.
  • NabySarr said:
    The fact of the matter was he refused to be involved when he could of been useful for his own personal benefit, its the same situation as Taylor. I understand why they did it but don't agree with it.

    I think we all know why Solly gets an easier time than Taylor even though they both refused to play whilst under contract. "one of our boys" club.
    It’s probably because if Solly had played we still would have been relegated, if Taylor had played then we would have stayed up

    I’m not even sure Solly would have played a game anyway, Matthews and Oshilaja were both better options at full back at the time 
    I'd use the word preferred but agree with you.
  • Dansk_Red said:
    How many times was he in the match day squad, during the last 3 months of his contract? Bowyer never seem to pick him.

    Which made his refusal to play even more odd.  He could have left himself open to play and almost certainly lying wouldn't have anyway.
  • Dansk_Red said:
    How many times was he in the match day squad, during the last 3 months of his contract? Bowyer never seem to pick him.

    Which made his refusal to play even more odd.  He could have left himself open to play and almost certainly lying wouldn't have anyway.
    Exactly, it's still confusing why he never made himself available. 

    There was a logic for a short term loan player Davis not wanting to be away from home during Covid, and there was a logic (however much we hated him for it) for Taylor to save himself for his big new contract, but the Solly decision made no sense. Especially as it was potentially an extra 2 months of decent salary for doing nothing on the pitch, at his local club. And I still think he had a role to play, even if it was just in the dressing room or on the training ground. As someone who clearly even then was thinking of becoming a coach, a great chance to watch and learn.

    I still think there's more to this than has been revealed.
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