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  • PemburyAddick
    PemburyAddick Posts: 506
    My train in to London was 20 minutes late - ie 50% late on a 40 min journey. No reason given, no apology, but I did see something at Waterloo East about a signalling problem. A mate on the Dartford line had the same problem. So I assume the work over the past 2 weeks hasn't really helped remedy the ongoing problems of the past 40 years and has knocked out all SE Trains communications facilities. Loved the comparison with hatred of SE Trains and ISIS.
  • RodneyCharltonTrotta
    RodneyCharltonTrotta Posts: 14,827
    edited January 2018
    MrLargo said:

    Back in the bleakness of South East London and Kent, night always follows day and South Eastern being an absolute disgrace on my morning journey to work always follows night.

    Checked National Rail before I left home and could see that everything was running between 3 and 20 minutes late for no apparent reason. Made a beeline for the 8.17 from St Johns, which was running a mere 2 minutes late. At 8.21 it still hadn't arrived. South Eastern played a recorded message advising that the 8.17 service was "being delayed". This was really useful, as I would otherwise have presumed that the world had stopped turning at 8.18.

    I boarded the late-running 8.21 at 8.25 and arrived at Cannon Street 5 minutes later than I should have done. Not a crisis by any means, but for the amount of money these wankers are stealing off us, I thought some form of explanation might have been forthcoming.

    Am now keeping a diary of my travelling experiences with ISIS' only genuine challenger for the position of "Most Loathsome Organisation" on the planet. I plan to post copies of it to the South Eastern CEO and Chris Grayling, Minister for Transport later in the year, accompanied by a shoebox containing a sample of my own personal detritus and a list of my favourite profanities.

    Brilliant. Please publish this daily :-)

    They're really awful Berkshires. Literally have not had a day commuting since start of November without a delay on either the incoming or homeward journey.

    20 minutes late to charing Cross this morning not a sausage of an apology.

    Missus doesn't commute anymore and none of my colleagues have the misfortune of being subject to southeastern so I can't rant to anyone about it without getting faux sympathetic patronising nods mixed with a sense of "he's probably exaggerating...just humour him" in their expressions.

    This thread is my daily safe space.
  • charltonkeston
    charltonkeston Posts: 7,359
    My train was 4 minutes early, yet again, this morning. Ashford / Charing Cross
    It thought I would try and bring some balance to this thread.
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 16,911
    edited January 2018
    charltonkeston said:

    My train was 4 minutes early, yet again, this morning. Ashford / Charing Cross
    It thought I would try and bring some balance to this thread.

    Come on here gloating again and you'll get a flag! ;)

    To be fair you probably deserve some sympathy as to get there 4 mins early it would have probably had to have left half an hour early. In which case you missed your train and are still in Ashford banging your head against a wall.
  • MrLargo
    MrLargo Posts: 7,989
    charltonkeston said:

    My train was 4 minutes early, yet again, this morning. Ashford / Charing Cross
    It thought I would try and bring some balance to this thread.

    There is no place for positivity on this thread. If you want to publish pro-South Eastern Trains propaganda then I suggest you start a separate thread. In fact, you could do a combined thread - "Great Journeys with South Eastern", "My Favourite Things About Katrien Meire", "Memories of Palace and Millwall's Greatest Trophy Victories" and "Likeable things about Alan Pardew".

    Call it "Tossers United" or "The Tumbleweed Thread" or something like that
  • Rizzo
    Rizzo Posts: 6,431
    I've e-mailed Southeastern asking for an explanation for the reduced seating capacity on my trains. Don't expect any sort of sensible reply but it's mildly cathartic just to send the complaint in.
  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,223
    They'll say the reduced seating capacity is because they have taken out some seats.
  • RodneyCharltonTrotta
    RodneyCharltonTrotta Posts: 14,827
    charltonkeston said:

    My train was 4 minutes early, yet again, this morning. Ashford / Charing Cross
    It thought I would try and bring some balance to this thread.

    I imagine you more than lose those 4 minutes travelling all the way to Ashford station from Keston each morning be fair. :-)
  • man_at_milletts
    man_at_milletts Posts: 5,620
    MrLargo said:

    Back in the bleakness of South East London and Kent, night always follows day and South Eastern being an absolute disgrace on my morning journey to work always follows night.

    Checked National Rail before I left home and could see that everything was running between 3 and 20 minutes late for no apparent reason. Made a beeline for the 8.17 from St Johns, which was running a mere 2 minutes late. At 8.21 it still hadn't arrived. South Eastern played a recorded message advising that the 8.17 service was "being delayed". This was really useful, as I would otherwise have presumed that the world had stopped turning at 8.18.

    I boarded the late-running 8.21 at 8.25 and arrived at Cannon Street 5 minutes later than I should have done. Not a crisis by any means, but for the amount of money these wankers are stealing off us, I thought some form of explanation might have been forthcoming.

    Am now keeping a diary of my travelling experiences with ISIS' only genuine challenger for the position of "Most Loathsome Organisation" on the planet. I plan to post copies of it to the South Eastern CEO and Chris Grayling, Minister for Transport later in the year, accompanied by a shoebox containing a sample of my own personal detritus and a list of my favourite profanities.

    @MrLargo I'm not sure of your age, but if you can hang on until you're 60 the NHS send you a nice little kit with which to gather this detritus and even an envelope to post it with. Could be useful to send to the MoT.
  • MrLargo
    MrLargo Posts: 7,989
    man_at_milletts said:

    MrLargo said:

    Back in the bleakness of South East London and Kent, night always follows day and South Eastern being an absolute disgrace on my morning journey to work always follows night.

    Checked National Rail before I left home and could see that everything was running between 3 and 20 minutes late for no apparent reason. Made a beeline for the 8.17 from St Johns, which was running a mere 2 minutes late. At 8.21 it still hadn't arrived. South Eastern played a recorded message advising that the 8.17 service was "being delayed". This was really useful, as I would otherwise have presumed that the world had stopped turning at 8.18.

    I boarded the late-running 8.21 at 8.25 and arrived at Cannon Street 5 minutes later than I should have done. Not a crisis by any means, but for the amount of money these wankers are stealing off us, I thought some form of explanation might have been forthcoming.

    Am now keeping a diary of my travelling experiences with ISIS' only genuine challenger for the position of "Most Loathsome Organisation" on the planet. I plan to post copies of it to the South Eastern CEO and Chris Grayling, Minister for Transport later in the year, accompanied by a shoebox containing a sample of my own personal detritus and a list of my favourite profanities.

    @MrLargo I'm not sure of your age, but if you can hang on until you're 60 the NHS send you a nice little kit with which to gather this detritus and even an envelope to post it with. Could be useful to send to the MoT.
    37 years old mate. As frugal/miserly as I am, I'm not willing to delay my act of retribution by 23 years just to save on postage!
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  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    MrLargo said:

    man_at_milletts said:

    MrLargo said:

    Back in the bleakness of South East London and Kent, night always follows day and South Eastern being an absolute disgrace on my morning journey to work always follows night.

    Checked National Rail before I left home and could see that everything was running between 3 and 20 minutes late for no apparent reason. Made a beeline for the 8.17 from St Johns, which was running a mere 2 minutes late. At 8.21 it still hadn't arrived. South Eastern played a recorded message advising that the 8.17 service was "being delayed". This was really useful, as I would otherwise have presumed that the world had stopped turning at 8.18.

    I boarded the late-running 8.21 at 8.25 and arrived at Cannon Street 5 minutes later than I should have done. Not a crisis by any means, but for the amount of money these wankers are stealing off us, I thought some form of explanation might have been forthcoming.

    Am now keeping a diary of my travelling experiences with ISIS' only genuine challenger for the position of "Most Loathsome Organisation" on the planet. I plan to post copies of it to the South Eastern CEO and Chris Grayling, Minister for Transport later in the year, accompanied by a shoebox containing a sample of my own personal detritus and a list of my favourite profanities.

    @MrLargo I'm not sure of your age, but if you can hang on until you're 60 the NHS send you a nice little kit with which to gather this detritus and even an envelope to post it with. Could be useful to send to the MoT.
    37 years old mate. As frugal/miserly as I am, I'm not willing to delay my act of retribution by 23 years just to save on postage!
    37!!!!!!!! Jesus you are going to be one miserable son of a bitch by the time you are 60 :smiley:
  • Macronate
    Macronate Posts: 12,890
    edited January 2018
    He’ll be retired within five years with the money he makes from his Southeastern diaries.
  • Fanny Fanackapan
    Fanny Fanackapan Posts: 18,737
    MrLargo said:

    man_at_milletts said:

    MrLargo said:

    Back in the bleakness of South East London and Kent, night always follows day and South Eastern being an absolute disgrace on my morning journey to work always follows night.

    Checked National Rail before I left home and could see that everything was running between 3 and 20 minutes late for no apparent reason. Made a beeline for the 8.17 from St Johns, which was running a mere 2 minutes late. At 8.21 it still hadn't arrived. South Eastern played a recorded message advising that the 8.17 service was "being delayed". This was really useful, as I would otherwise have presumed that the world had stopped turning at 8.18.

    I boarded the late-running 8.21 at 8.25 and arrived at Cannon Street 5 minutes later than I should have done. Not a crisis by any means, but for the amount of money these wankers are stealing off us, I thought some form of explanation might have been forthcoming.

    Am now keeping a diary of my travelling experiences with ISIS' only genuine challenger for the position of "Most Loathsome Organisation" on the planet. I plan to post copies of it to the South Eastern CEO and Chris Grayling, Minister for Transport later in the year, accompanied by a shoebox containing a sample of my own personal detritus and a list of my favourite profanities.

    @MrLargo I'm not sure of your age, but if you can hang on until you're 60 the NHS send you a nice little kit with which to gather this detritus and even an envelope to post it with. Could be useful to send to the MoT.
    37 years old mate. As frugal/miserly as I am, I'm not willing to delay my act of retribution by 23 years just to save on postage!
    I'll send you mine it it would help.

    Including my own, extremely fragrant excrement....

    :smile:
  • MrLargo
    MrLargo Posts: 7,989
    Fanny Fanackapan said:

    MrLargo said:

    man_at_milletts said:

    MrLargo said:

    Back in the bleakness of South East London and Kent, night always follows day and South Eastern being an absolute disgrace on my morning journey to work always follows night.

    Checked National Rail before I left home and could see that everything was running between 3 and 20 minutes late for no apparent reason. Made a beeline for the 8.17 from St Johns, which was running a mere 2 minutes late. At 8.21 it still hadn't arrived. South Eastern played a recorded message advising that the 8.17 service was "being delayed". This was really useful, as I would otherwise have presumed that the world had stopped turning at 8.18.

    I boarded the late-running 8.21 at 8.25 and arrived at Cannon Street 5 minutes later than I should have done. Not a crisis by any means, but for the amount of money these wankers are stealing off us, I thought some form of explanation might have been forthcoming.

    Am now keeping a diary of my travelling experiences with ISIS' only genuine challenger for the position of "Most Loathsome Organisation" on the planet. I plan to post copies of it to the South Eastern CEO and Chris Grayling, Minister for Transport later in the year, accompanied by a shoebox containing a sample of my own personal detritus and a list of my favourite profanities.

    @MrLargo I'm not sure of your age, but if you can hang on until you're 60 the NHS send you a nice little kit with which to gather this detritus and even an envelope to post it with. Could be useful to send to the MoT.
    37 years old mate. As frugal/miserly as I am, I'm not willing to delay my act of retribution by 23 years just to save on postage!
    I'll send you mine it it would help.

    Including my own, extremely fragrant excrement....

    :smile:
    I presumed your sample had already been sent First Class to Sheffield!
  • Leeds_Addick
    Leeds_Addick Posts: 4,698
    Can’t believe it. Tonight the train I’m on has managed to get to Lewisham without stopping for no reason once.

    I don’t know how to process the feeling, unbelievable.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,304
    Leeds_Addick said:

    Can’t believe it. Tonight the train I’m on has managed to get to Lewisham without stopping for no reason once.

    I don’t know how to process the feeling, unbelievable.

    Might want to hold it... the toilets are probably out of order!!
  • charltonkeston
    charltonkeston Posts: 7,359
    cantersaddick said:

    charltonkeston said:

    My train was 4 minutes early, yet again, this morning. Ashford / Charing Cross
    It thought I would try and bring some balance to this thread.

    Come on here gloating again and you'll get a flag! ;)

    To be fair you probably deserve some sympathy as to get there 4 mins early it would have probably had to have left half an hour early. In which case you missed your train and are still in Ashford banging your head against a wall.
    RodneyCharltonTrotta said:

    charltonkeston said:

    My train was 4 minutes early, yet again, this morning. Ashford / Charing Cross
    It thought I would try and bring some balance to this thread.

    I imagine you more than lose those 4 minutes travelling all the way to Ashford station from Keston each morning be fair. :-)
    Both of you, as Charlton supporters, should know how train lines are listed. I named the Ashford to Charing Cross line/train. It doesn’t mean I travel from Ashford. I get on at Orpington 25 minutes off at Charing Cross. It does have its downside, I more often than not have to share a table with at least one other person.
    I know I run the risk of a flag on this thread being so positive so just letting you all know my train arrived at Orpington tonight at 17:17 and it should have been there at 17:16, it’s not all beer and skittles on my line.
    MrLargo said:

    charltonkeston said:

    My train was 4 minutes early, yet again, this morning. Ashford / Charing Cross
    It thought I would try and bring some balance to this thread.

    There is no place for positivity on this thread. If you want to publish pro-South Eastern Trains propaganda then I suggest you start a separate thread. In fact, you could do a combined thread - "Great Journeys with South Eastern", "My Favourite Things About Katrien Meire", "Memories of Palace and Millwall's Greatest Trophy Victories" and "Likeable things about Alan Pardew".

    Call it "Tossers United" or "The Tumbleweed Thread" or something like that
    Point taken, it won’t happen again. As you can see above, my train home was late. I feel my fellow commuters pain.
  • Leeds_Addick
    Leeds_Addick Posts: 4,698
    blackpool72 said:

    Leeds_Addick said:

    Can’t believe it. Tonight the train I’m on has managed to get to Lewisham without stopping for no reason once.

    I don’t know how to process the feeling, unbelievable.

    Leeds to Lewisham without stopping is truly remarkable
    I'm running out of comebacks to posts like these
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    Fanny Fanackapan said:

    MrLargo said:

    man_at_milletts said:

    MrLargo said:

    Back in the bleakness of South East London and Kent, night always follows day and South Eastern being an absolute disgrace on my morning journey to work always follows night.

    Checked National Rail before I left home and could see that everything was running between 3 and 20 minutes late for no apparent reason. Made a beeline for the 8.17 from St Johns, which was running a mere 2 minutes late. At 8.21 it still hadn't arrived. South Eastern played a recorded message advising that the 8.17 service was "being delayed". This was really useful, as I would otherwise have presumed that the world had stopped turning at 8.18.

    I boarded the late-running 8.21 at 8.25 and arrived at Cannon Street 5 minutes later than I should have done. Not a crisis by any means, but for the amount of money these wankers are stealing off us, I thought some form of explanation might have been forthcoming.

    Am now keeping a diary of my travelling experiences with ISIS' only genuine challenger for the position of "Most Loathsome Organisation" on the planet. I plan to post copies of it to the South Eastern CEO and Chris Grayling, Minister for Transport later in the year, accompanied by a shoebox containing a sample of my own personal detritus and a list of my favourite profanities.

    @MrLargo I'm not sure of your age, but if you can hang on until you're 60 the NHS send you a nice little kit with which to gather this detritus and even an envelope to post it with. Could be useful to send to the MoT.
    37 years old mate. As frugal/miserly as I am, I'm not willing to delay my act of retribution by 23 years just to save on postage!
    I'll send you mine it it would help.

    Including my own, extremely fragrant excrement....

    :smile:
    All joking aside Fanny I never assumed the kits were sent to women. I thought the big bowl cancer push was aimed at men.
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  • Fanny Fanackapan
    Fanny Fanackapan Posts: 18,737
    eaststandmike said:

    Fanny Fanackapan said:

    MrLargo said:

    man_at_milletts said:

    MrLargo said:

    Back in the bleakness of South East London and Kent, night always follows day and South Eastern being an absolute disgrace on my morning journey to work always follows night.

    Checked National Rail before I left home and could see that everything was running between 3 and 20 minutes late for no apparent reason. Made a beeline for the 8.17 from St Johns, which was running a mere 2 minutes late. At 8.21 it still hadn't arrived. South Eastern played a recorded message advising that the 8.17 service was "being delayed". This was really useful, as I would otherwise have presumed that the world had stopped turning at 8.18.

    I boarded the late-running 8.21 at 8.25 and arrived at Cannon Street 5 minutes later than I should have done. Not a crisis by any means, but for the amount of money these wankers are stealing off us, I thought some form of explanation might have been forthcoming.

    Am now keeping a diary of my travelling experiences with ISIS' only genuine challenger for the position of "Most Loathsome Organisation" on the planet. I plan to post copies of it to the South Eastern CEO and Chris Grayling, Minister for Transport later in the year, accompanied by a shoebox containing a sample of my own personal detritus and a list of my favourite profanities.

    @MrLargo I'm not sure of your age, but if you can hang on until you're 60 the NHS send you a nice little kit with which to gather this detritus and even an envelope to post it with. Could be useful to send to the MoT.
    37 years old mate. As frugal/miserly as I am, I'm not willing to delay my act of retribution by 23 years just to save on postage!
    I'll send you mine it it would help.

    Including my own, extremely fragrant excrement....

    :smile:
    All joking aside Fanny I never assumed the kits were sent to women. I thought the big bowl cancer push was aimed at men.
    Not at all, Mike.

    The colon /bowel cancer early diagnosis kit is there for both sexes.
  • MrLargo
    MrLargo Posts: 7,989


    9am next Monday morning, South Eastern's Head Office on Blackfriars Road. I'll supply the Viagra, you know what to do.
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,805
    I’d just like to congratulate Southeastern for having reduced services down the Woolwich line during the engineering works by a) fewer services per hour into London b ) fewer carriages c) limiting to Cannon Street only and stopping servicing Waterloo and Charing Cross

    But even more I congratulate them on then not even commenting on why, now the engine seeing works at London Bridge are completed, they continue to run this lower grade service despite the significant upgrades to the track layout around London Bridge.

    Fuckers.
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 16,911
    Been trying to work out why my trains have been even more busy than usual since christmas. I think it must be something to do with the opening of London bridge. I can only assume it means they are running less of some services from Gillingham/Chatham into some London stations so everyone is getting my train to Victoria.
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,805
    Very happy that they have changed the train I normally get from mostly seated carriages to mostly standing carriages.

    Makes for a much more pleasant journey in.
  • man_at_milletts
    man_at_milletts Posts: 5,620
    MrLargo said:



    9am next Monday morning, South Eastern's Head Office on Blackfriars Road. I'll supply the Viagra, you know what to do.
    I got some new trainers for Christmas. I'll see if I've still got the shoebox.
  • MrLargo
    MrLargo Posts: 7,989
    Dear Diary

    Today started badly for me. Within just a few minutes of leaving the house, someone had said "F*%k you!" to me. They said "f#*k you" by delaying the 7.50 from St Johns to Cannon Street by 7 minutes and then failing to provide any comment whatsoever regarding its mysterious disappearance. We eventually rolled into Cannon Street 6 minutes late, still without an explanation and they couldn't even be bothered to treat us to an airing of the recorded "we apologise for any inconvenience this may cause".

    According to the National Rail App, which is a far better source of information than any of the staff or technology employed by South Eastern, the delay was caused by "congestion." That can't be right though, because we were told the hugely expensive and disruptive Thameslink Programme would get rid of that issue.

    That's a cumulative delay of 11 minutes so far this week. Tossers.
  • Macronate
    Macronate Posts: 12,890
    edited January 2018
    As well as the delays, can you find room to comment on the bad habits of commuters...constant coughing, picking noses, booming voices on mobiles, snoring, general smells, hot food smells, bikes, rucksacks, massive suitcases etc.

    Focus on the Sidcup line if you can.
  • man_at_milletts
    man_at_milletts Posts: 5,620
    Has anyone ever noticed that virtually nobody ever uses the toilet on the commute in to London?

    When I used to commute from New Eltham I was waiting for the day when somebody came out of the bog and declared a ten minutes warning.
  • Super_Eddie_Youds
    Super_Eddie_Youds Posts: 1,977
    Macronate said:

    As well as the delays, can you find room to comment on the bad habits of commuters...constant coughing, picking noses, booming voices on mobiles, snoring, general smells, hot food smells, bikes, rucksacks, massive suitcases etc.

    Focus on the Sidcup line if you can.

    There is a lady on my (Thameslink) train, that talks on her mobile and puts her make-up on at the same time, a poison double.

    Also, this train is delayed everyday by late running southeastern services that are given priority. Mind blowing.

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