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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)

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  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    Henry Irving said:

    Dannoo_86 said:

    RM just wants this thread to hit 2 million views.

    And yet it still won't get a promote ; - (
    Promote fever.
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,977
    @Redhenry You say it will be done at the end of Feb.....is it the party you know of?

    ie do we need to start getting excited?
  • Fanny Fanackapan
    Fanny Fanackapan Posts: 18,740
    Swisdom said:

    @Redhenry You say it will be done at the end of Feb.....is it the party you know of?

    ie do we need to start getting excited?

    Good question, @Swisdom.

    These days I need a bit of notice before that tingle kicks in.....
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,127
    Swisdom said:

    @Redhenry You say it will be done at the end of Feb.....is it the party you know of?

    ie do we need to start getting excited?

    image
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    The Red Robin said:

    Swisdom said:

    @Redhenry You say it will be done at the end of Feb.....is it the party you know of?

    ie do we need to start getting excited?

    image
    Kenny fuckin powers just made this fucking thread ya bunch of homos.
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,984
    Fanny Fanackapan said:

    Swisdom said:

    @Redhenry You say it will be done at the end of Feb.....is it the party you know of?

    ie do we need to start getting excited?

    Good question, @Swisdom.

    These days I need a bit of notice before that tingle kicks in.....
    image
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 11,993
    edited January 2018
    JamesSeed said:

    Valley11 said:

    JamesSeed said:

    Valley11 said:

    RedChaser said:

    Valley11 said:

    No one said it’s not a gamble worth taking or that RD was that bad. The point was made that no owner could be as bad as RD.
    I disagree with that and the O’s and Blackpool owners would suggest I’m right.

    Depends how you interpret 'no owner' I'd take that to mean no new owner of us because I wouldn't think for one minute the Oystons or the Orient destroyer would now want to get involved with us or come to that would be allowed to. Anything else is purely hypothetical.

    Eh? Sorry that doesn’t make sense. The original statement was:
    No owner can be as bad as RD.

    Taking your interpretation: Do you really think no new owner can be as bad? That history shows only the two you mention -Becchetti and the Oystons - are as bad as RD?
    If you do then you’ve chosen to ignore Cellino (Leeds), SISU Capital (Coventry), Chanrai (Portsmouth), the Venkys (Blackburn) I could go on....
    Look, the new lot will hopefully be brilliant and we’ll march to the Premier League and Champions League titles within five years.
    But for now you can’t say they won’t be as bad as (or, god forbid, worse than) RD. We simply don’t know.
    It's easy to be swayed by the relatively smooth running of the club (i.e. Robinson's freedom from interference, no network nonsense etc) over the last six months or so. But we were a club for sale once the owner had given up running things his way, so those six months weren't representative of what Roland wanted to do with Charlton.
    So yes, plenty of owners are worse than the 'ownership' over the last six months. Few are worse than what went before.
    What are you on about? I never quantified anything about Roland's reign or said I'd been 'swayed'. I merely pointed out that we cannot say with any certainty that the new lot will be better than RD, in response to someone who'd posted no owner can be as bad as RD. Clearly they could.
    Woah, over-reaction time. I wasn't particularly referring to you, I was just commenting on the thread. A thread which I've only scanned.

    All I was saying was that there may be some who think new owners might be worse than RD based partly on the way things have been over the last six months, an atypical period in our recent history when a more normal system was in place i.e. no network/Driesen, not interfence
    Obviously when RD's way of running things was in full sway it's hard to imagine anything being worse. For I time I was thinking 'this isn't too bad', when we put together that decent run and we were second (or third was it?) in the league. Of course RD never intended us to run in an ordinary was so was plotting his way out.
    I wasn't having a go at you, and I agree with your point that new owners could be worse than RD, they could even be the worst owners in football history for all we know. So don't take it all so personally.

    Good to see @Henry Irving getting stuck in with the 'like' though.
    When you quote someone, as you did my post, you are absolutely referring to them. That's not taking it 'all so personally', that's just a fact.
    If you wanted to make the point about people being 'swayed' then you should have made it without quoting what I'd written.
    It's quite simple really. And best not to try and muddle the facts when you've been caught out.

  • Redhenry
    Redhenry Posts: 5,359
    Swisdom said:

    @Redhenry You say it will be done at the end of Feb.....is it the party you know of?

    ie do we need to start getting excited?

    Three party's still involved. I have heard this indirectly from one of them.
  • bertpalmer
    bertpalmer Posts: 1,774
    Redhenry said:

    Swisdom said:

    @Redhenry You say it will be done at the end of Feb.....is it the party you know of?

    ie do we need to start getting excited?

    Three party's still involved. I have heard this indirectly from one of them.

    Cmon Redbull
  • colthe3rd
    colthe3rd Posts: 8,486
    Seems weird that a date can be assured of for a sale if there are a number of interested buyers.

    Then again I could also make up stuff on the internet that no one could ever prove wrong.
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  • nth_london_addick
    nth_london_addick Posts: 35,919
    Henry Irving said:

    https://www.londonnewsonline.co.uk/charlton-athletic-takeover-deal-on-course-for-february-completion/

    "Richard Murray has told some of Charlton Athletic’s staff that the club could be in new hands by the end of February.

    The Addicks have been up for sale for some time with owner Roland Duchatelet publicly confirming at the end of last year that he was in talks with interested buyers.

    Murray took the opportunity to address staff at the club’s Sparrows Lane training ground earlier this week when an IT workshop was being conducted.

    The Charlton director – and former chairman during their Premier League heyday – did point out that timescales could shift.

    Murray met with Charlton Athletic Supporters’ Trust recently and revealed a number of consortia had carried out due diligence.

    "Could be"

    "Timescales could shift"

    "Could be"

    "Timescales could shift"

    "Could be"

    "Timescales could shift"

    "Could be"

    "Timescales could shift"

    there used to be an old saying on here


    NOTHING TO SEE MOVE ON

    so its just what he told card
  • superclive98
    superclive98 Posts: 4,768
    colthe3rd said:

    Seems weird that a date can be assured of for a sale if there are a number of interested buyers.

    Then again I could also make up stuff on the internet that no one could ever prove wrong.

    Hope you're not referring to anyone in particular, as there's enough knicker-twisting going on this thread already.
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    Henry Irving said:

    JamesSeed said:

    Valley11 said:

    JamesSeed said:

    Valley11 said:

    RedChaser said:

    Valley11 said:

    No one said it’s not a gamble worth taking or that RD was that bad. The point was made that no owner could be as bad as RD.
    I disagree with that and the O’s and Blackpool owners would suggest I’m right.

    Depends how you interpret 'no owner' I'd take that to mean no new owner of us because I wouldn't think for one minute the Oystons or the Orient destroyer would now want to get involved with us or come to that would be allowed to. Anything else is purely hypothetical.

    Eh? Sorry that doesn’t make sense. The original statement was:
    No owner can be as bad as RD.

    Taking your interpretation: Do you really think no new owner can be as bad? That history shows only the two you mention -Becchetti and the Oystons - are as bad as RD?
    If you do then you’ve chosen to ignore Cellino (Leeds), SISU Capital (Coventry), Chanrai (Portsmouth), the Venkys (Blackburn) I could go on....
    Look, the new lot will hopefully be brilliant and we’ll march to the Premier League and Champions League titles within five years.
    But for now you can’t say they won’t be as bad as (or, god forbid, worse than) RD. We simply don’t know.
    It's easy to be swayed by the relatively smooth running of the club (i.e. Robinson's freedom from interference, no network nonsense etc) over the last six months or so. But we were a club for sale once the owner had given up running things his way, so those six months weren't representative of what Roland wanted to do with Charlton.
    So yes, plenty of owners are worse than the 'ownership' over the last six months. Few are worse than what went before.
    What are you on about? I never quantified anything about Roland's reign or said I'd been 'swayed'. I merely pointed out that we cannot say with any certainty that the new lot will be better than RD, in response to someone who'd posted no owner can be as bad as RD. Clearly they could.
    Woah, over-reaction time. I wasn't particularly referring to you, I was just commenting on the thread. A thread which I've only scanned.

    All I was saying was that there may be some who think new owners might be worse than RD based partly on the way things have been over the last six months, an atypical period in our recent history when a more normal system was in place i.e. no network/Driesen, not interfence
    Obviously when RD's way of running things was in full sway it's hard to imagine anything being worse. For I time I was thinking 'this isn't too bad', when we put together that decent run and we were second (or third was it?) in the league. Of course RD never intended us to run in an ordinary was so was plotting his way out.
    I wasn't having a go at you, and I agree with your point that new owners could be worse than RD, they could even be the worst owners in football history for all we know. So don't take it all so personally.

    Good to see @Henry Irving getting stuck in with the 'like' though.
    He made a valid point @JamesSeed and I agreed with him.

    No one was getting stuck in.
    Whatever
  • colthe3rd
    colthe3rd Posts: 8,486
    superclive98 said:

    colthe3rd said:

    Seems weird that a date can be assured of for a sale if there are a number of interested buyers.

    Then again I could also make up stuff on the internet that no one could ever prove wrong.

    Hope you're not referring to anyone in particular, as there's enough knicker-twisting going on this thread already.
    I just find it odd people make stuff up just to try and make out they are on the inside.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,230
    nth london addick said:

    Henry Irving said:

    https://www.londonnewsonline.co.uk/charlton-athletic-takeover-deal-on-course-for-february-completion/

    "Richard Murray has told some of Charlton Athletic’s staff that the club could be in new hands by the end of February.

    The Addicks have been up for sale for some time with owner Roland Duchatelet publicly confirming at the end of last year that he was in talks with interested buyers.

    Murray took the opportunity to address staff at the club’s Sparrows Lane training ground earlier this week when an IT workshop was being conducted.

    The Charlton director – and former chairman during their Premier League heyday – did point out that timescales could shift.

    Murray met with Charlton Athletic Supporters’ Trust recently and revealed a number of consortia had carried out due diligence.

    "Could be"

    "Timescales could shift"

    "Could be"

    "Timescales could shift"

    "Could be"

    "Timescales could shift"

    "Could be"

    "Timescales could shift"

    there used to be an old saying on here


    NOTHING TO SEE MOVE ON

    so its just what he told card
    And what he told staff the week before last ie before he spoke to the Supporters Trust.

    I wasn't at either meeting and haven't spoken to anyone who was at both meetings so don't know if the mood or detailed have changed but what Murray has said is very qualified.
    colthe3rd said:

    Seems weird that a date can be assured of for a sale if there are a number of interested buyers.

    Then again I could also make up stuff on the internet that no one could ever prove wrong.

    But as said above no date has been "assured".

    Murray, who isn't the seller, has said it "could be" February but "timescales could shift".

    Could be tomorrow or could be in the summer or anytime inbetween IMHO
  • colthe3rd
    colthe3rd Posts: 8,486
    I wasn't referring to Murray's comments Henners
  • superclive98
    superclive98 Posts: 4,768
    colthe3rd said:

    superclive98 said:

    colthe3rd said:

    Seems weird that a date can be assured of for a sale if there are a number of interested buyers.

    Then again I could also make up stuff on the internet that no one could ever prove wrong.

    Hope you're not referring to anyone in particular, as there's enough knicker-twisting going on this thread already.
    I just find it odd people make stuff up just to try and make out they are on the inside.
    The problem is that we don't know for sure who is ITK and who isn't. Experience tells which posters tend to be reliable and the comments from elsewhere should just be taken with a pinch of salt.
  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,661
    WSS said:

    Take that.

    Our very own Jason Orange

    (A bit slim for Williams or Barlow and I don't remember what Donald looks like)
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    Valley11 said:

    JamesSeed said:

    Valley11 said:

    JamesSeed said:

    Valley11 said:

    RedChaser said:

    Valley11 said:

    No one said it’s not a gamble worth taking or that RD was that bad. The point was made that no owner could be as bad as RD.
    I disagree with that and the O’s and Blackpool owners would suggest I’m right.

    Depends how you interpret 'no owner' I'd take that to mean no new owner of us because I wouldn't think for one minute the Oystons or the Orient destroyer would now want to get involved with us or come to that would be allowed to. Anything else is purely hypothetical.

    Eh? Sorry that doesn’t make sense. The original statement was:
    No owner can be as bad as RD.

    Taking your interpretation: Do you really think no new owner can be as bad? That history shows only the two you mention -Becchetti and the Oystons - are as bad as RD?
    If you do then you’ve chosen to ignore Cellino (Leeds), SISU Capital (Coventry), Chanrai (Portsmouth), the Venkys (Blackburn) I could go on....
    Look, the new lot will hopefully be brilliant and we’ll march to the Premier League and Champions League titles within five years.
    But for now you can’t say they won’t be as bad as (or, god forbid, worse than) RD. We simply don’t know.
    It's easy to be swayed by the relatively smooth running of the club (i.e. Robinson's freedom from interference, no network nonsense etc) over the last six months or so. But we were a club for sale once the owner had given up running things his way, so those six months weren't representative of what Roland wanted to do with Charlton.
    So yes, plenty of owners are worse than the 'ownership' over the last six months. Few are worse than what went before.
    What are you on about? I never quantified anything about Roland's reign or said I'd been 'swayed'. I merely pointed out that we cannot say with any certainty that the new lot will be better than RD, in response to someone who'd posted no owner can be as bad as RD. Clearly they could.
    Woah, over-reaction time. I wasn't particularly referring to you, I was just commenting on the thread. A thread which I've only scanned.

    All I was saying was that there may be some who think new owners might be worse than RD based partly on the way things have been over the last six months, an atypical period in our recent history when a more normal system was in place i.e. no network/Driesen, not interfence
    Obviously when RD's way of running things was in full sway it's hard to imagine anything being worse. For I time I was thinking 'this isn't too bad', when we put together that decent run and we were second (or third was it?) in the league. Of course RD never intended us to run in an ordinary was so was plotting his way out.
    I wasn't having a go at you, and I agree with your point that new owners could be worse than RD, they could even be the worst owners in football history for all we know. So don't take it all so personally.

    Good to see @Henry Irving getting stuck in with the 'like' though.
    When you quote someone, as you did my post, you are absolutely referring to them. That's not taking it 'all so personally', that's just a fact.
    If you wanted to make the point about people being 'swayed' then you should have made it without quoting what I'd written.
    It's quite simple really. And best not to try and muddle the facts when you've been caught out.

    You've lost me completely, I don't know what you mean about being caught out. Literally I don't.

    Apologies for using the quote button if that made it look like I was referring to you particularly. I didn't intend to imply you were swayed if that's what you mean.

    I don't have a beef with you if that's what you're worried about. I don't particularly remember seeing your name before valley11.

    Sometimes forums can be a minefield. And I'm sure you're more used to navigating them than I am.
  • colthe3rd
    colthe3rd Posts: 8,486
    superclive98 said:

    colthe3rd said:

    superclive98 said:

    colthe3rd said:

    Seems weird that a date can be assured of for a sale if there are a number of interested buyers.

    Then again I could also make up stuff on the internet that no one could ever prove wrong.

    Hope you're not referring to anyone in particular, as there's enough knicker-twisting going on this thread already.
    I just find it odd people make stuff up just to try and make out they are on the inside.
    The problem is that we don't know for sure who is ITK and who isn't. Experience tells which posters tend to be reliable and the comments from elsewhere should just be taken with a pinch of salt.
    My point still stands though. Undoubtedly there are people who make shit up and it's just baffling.

    I guess it's a bit like the modern day fortune teller, say some stuff, be as vague as possible and hope that enough people buy into the shit you are spouting.
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  • CAFCTrev
    CAFCTrev Posts: 5,978
    Im still holding out for the 18th Jan deadline.
  • Uboat
    Uboat Posts: 12,197
    This thread is going to descend into a mass brawl, complete with custard pies, flying furniture and hair pulling, at which point a little known member of the forum will turn up and quietly announce that our take over by Jeff Bezos, Warren Buffett and Bill Gates has just gone through.
  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,355
    JUST SELL YOU UTTER DISGRACE OF A MAN!!!

    sorry.
  • Stu_of_Kunming
    Stu_of_Kunming Posts: 17,118
    Our take over by Jeff Bezos, Warren Buffett and Bill Gates has just gone through.
  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456
    JamesSeed said:

    Valley11 said:

    JamesSeed said:

    Valley11 said:

    RedChaser said:

    Valley11 said:

    No one said it’s not a gamble worth taking or that RD was that bad. The point was made that no owner could be as bad as RD.
    I disagree with that and the O’s and Blackpool owners would suggest I’m right.

    Depends how you interpret 'no owner' I'd take that to mean no new owner of us because I wouldn't think for one minute the Oystons or the Orient destroyer would now want to get involved with us or come to that would be allowed to. Anything else is purely hypothetical.

    Eh? Sorry that doesn’t make sense. The original statement was:
    No owner can be as bad as RD.

    Taking your interpretation: Do you really think no new owner can be as bad? That history shows only the two you mention -Becchetti and the Oystons - are as bad as RD?
    If you do then you’ve chosen to ignore Cellino (Leeds), SISU Capital (Coventry), Chanrai (Portsmouth), the Venkys (Blackburn) I could go on....
    Look, the new lot will hopefully be brilliant and we’ll march to the Premier League and Champions League titles within five years.
    But for now you can’t say they won’t be as bad as (or, god forbid, worse than) RD. We simply don’t know.
    It's easy to be swayed by the relatively smooth running of the club (i.e. Robinson's freedom from interference, no network nonsense etc) over the last six months or so. But we were a club for sale once the owner had given up running things his way, so those six months weren't representative of what Roland wanted to do with Charlton.
    So yes, plenty of owners are worse than the 'ownership' over the last six months. Few are worse than what went before.
    What are you on about? I never quantified anything about Roland's reign or said I'd been 'swayed'. I merely pointed out that we cannot say with any certainty that the new lot will be better than RD, in response to someone who'd posted no owner can be as bad as RD. Clearly they could.
    Woah, over-reaction time. I wasn't particularly referring to you, I was just commenting on the thread. A thread which I've only scanned.
    Only scanned?

    Yet posted on 56 times alone this month.

    :wink:

  • i_b_b_o_r_g
    i_b_b_o_r_g Posts: 18,948
    colthe3rd said:

    Seems weird that a date can be assured of for a sale if there are a number of interested buyers.

    Then again I could also make up stuff on the internet that no one could ever prove wrong.

    He might paint a few walls, chuck a few throws about and do an open house, sealed bid type carry on like that program with PS
  • i_b_b_o_r_g
    i_b_b_o_r_g Posts: 18,948
    PS = Phil Spencer for thoughs that ain't itk
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,230
    Stu_of_Kunming said:

    Our take over by Jeff Bezos, Warren Buffett and Bill Gates has just gone through.

    Boooooo not rich enough
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