his interview the other day read like a leaving speech although at the time I thought he might have just been trying to ingratiate himself with the new owners. His days are numbered anyway. If the takeover happened today he'd have at most until the end of the season left. I'd be happy if he went. With a takeover completed it would give the new man the chance to assess the squad and plan for next season. If we went up in the meantime then all the better. If the takeover is still not completed then give it to Euelly until it's done.
Jason should be the man to step up as interim if Robbo does go. Most of our best players were playing under him recently, he wins a lot of games and has a pro licence.
If Robinson goes, I doubt if we would employ anyone else. I, in reality think it'll probably go to Bowyer. But part of me hopes that this shitshow goes full circle and Mowgi comes back, perhaps via skype on an open laptop sat on the bench. I'm sure the pokemon craze is over and he has a bit more time on his hands again.
To what extent is the squad Karl’s squad. He helped out the regime (and us I guess) by rigorously pruning the one he inherited, and he’s brought in four (?) players and some loanees. He’s done that without spending much at all.
But I think he’d probably claim that given some financial backing his squad might be stronger - hopefully physically as well as in terms of depth. He has said he lacks an athletic/strong midfielder.
I’m not really sure that it’s 100% Karl’s squad is it?
Either way he should probably getting more wins out of them.
If Robinson gets us promoted with this squad it will be nothing short of a miracle.
Our defence is shocking as are our options up front.
Our squad is easily amongst the 3-4 best in the division. Certainly better than Shrewsbury and Scunthorpe, not to mention in the summer we signed 2 of Bradford's best players from last year and they're still above us!
Have you watched much league one footy outside of Charlton? Shrewsbury have got an excellent defence, far better than ours. Scunny are overall probably even with us.
I would say we have three or four players who are good enough to get us out of this league.
How many of our current players, excluding loans would have got in to Powell's league winning team? My opinion is two! Pearce for Taylor and Fosu for Green/Wagstaff.
It was an odd choice to bring in two additional wide men on loan. It's clear that is not what we are lacking....
It's a shame, because if Robinson had been given some dosh to spend I think he'd got us out of this league.
They're performing better than us, there's no doubt about that. But the point is about the overall squad. Our squad is (on paper) way better than Shrewsbury! We have internationals, youth internationals, guys with experience in much higher divisions. Shrewsbury's squad (aside from their loan players) are almost all from the lower leagues and non league.
Unfortunately for your argument they have players brought in from Man Utd, Swansea and Burnley (Prem) and from Reading, Wolves, Derby, Sheffield Utd, Barnsley and two from Norwich (Championship). They have loan players, the same as we do @Chris_from_Sidcup
Might be an idea to save the anti Robbo stuff until the end of the season.
Shrewsbury’s defence is ‘better’ than ours because they have a manager and coaching team that organises them brilliantly. Man for man they are not better than ours, but collectively they are.
They also score plenty of late goals to WIN games. Another sign of good management and team mentality. In the last 15 minutes of games this season Shrewsbury and us have both scored 10 goals, but they’ve conceded 4. We’ve conceded 14!
Agreed. The fact that they score late in games so often speaks volumes for their mentality. I bet when they go a goal up they continue to press forward. I’m looking forward to seeing them on the 24th. A Polish friend is coming to the game because he wants to see Zyro. I hope he isn’t disappointed.
I think 3 windows is enough to say it's 100% his squad, he knew exactly what constraints he'd be working under when he took the job.
Did he really? Roly is a slippery bastard, and I doubt he told Karl the truth. Karl's book'll be interesting.
I’ve defended Robinson a lot this season but what I can’t accept is that he didn’t know what he was getting into or what to expect.
He’d slagged off the way the club was being run himself as an opposing manager and he has said that every single person he spoke to before joining tried to warn him off.
I’m disappointed he hasn’t proved a better manager and accept he’s been working under some constraints, but he was either naive or stupidly arrogant not to think he wouldn’t have those constraints.
Robinson's answers at the Bromley meeting amounted to the fact he knew what he was getting in to, although tbf he would have not known to what level.
That aside, I found him very likeable and approachable.
Yeah I feel like he should have known what he was getting in to, but the level of degrees is another thing. The prolonged takeover attempts have made things different than they would have been if that weren't still going on. That's of course not to say they would have been good, they wouldn't, but I think it's added another degree of difficulty.
That said, if Robinson left tomorrow, and I hope he doesn't if for no other reason than I'm afraid we'd hire literally no one, I would still regard him as doing a very good job, all things considered, in the transfer windows. It will be his short comings as a coach that I'll remember.
To what extent is the squad Karl’s squad. He helped out the regime (and us I guess) by rigorously pruning the one he inherited, and he’s brought in four (?) players and some loanees. He’s done that without spending much at all.
But I think he’d probably claim that given some financial backing his squad might be stronger - hopefully physically as well as in terms of depth. He has said he lacks an athletic/strong midfielder.
I’m not really sure that it’s 100% Karl’s squad is it?
Either way he should probably getting more wins out of them.
If Robinson gets us promoted with this squad it will be nothing short of a miracle.
Our defence is shocking as are our options up front.
Our squad is easily amongst the 3-4 best in the division. Certainly better than Shrewsbury and Scunthorpe, not to mention in the summer we signed 2 of Bradford's best players from last year and they're still above us!
Have you watched much league one footy outside of Charlton? Shrewsbury have got an excellent defence, far better than ours. Scunny are overall probably even with us.
I would say we have three or four players who are good enough to get us out of this league.
How many of our current players, excluding loans would have got in to Powell's league winning team? My opinion is two! Pearce for Taylor and Fosu for Green/Wagstaff.
It was an odd choice to bring in two additional wide men on loan. It's clear that is not what we are lacking....
It's a shame, because if Robinson had been given some dosh to spend I think he'd got us out of this league.
They're performing better than us, there's no doubt about that. But the point is about the overall squad. Our squad is (on paper) way better than Shrewsbury! We have internationals, youth internationals, guys with experience in much higher divisions. Shrewsbury's squad (aside from their loan players) are almost all from the lower leagues and non league.
Unfortunately for your argument they have players brought in from Man Utd, Swansea and Burnley (Prem) and from Reading, Wolves, Derby, Sheffield Utd, Barnsley and two from Norwich (Championship). They have loan players, the same as we do @Chris_from_Sidcup
Might be an idea to save the anti Robbo stuff until the end of the season.
Shrewsbury’s defence is ‘better’ than ours because they have a manager and coaching team that organises them brilliantly. Man for man they are not better than ours, but collectively they are.
They also score plenty of late goals to WIN games. Another sign of good management and team mentality. In the last 15 minutes of games this season Shrewsbury and us have both scored 10 goals, but they’ve conceded 4. We’ve conceded 14!
Agreed. The fact that they score late in games so often speaks volumes for their mentality. I bet when they go a goal up they continue to press forward. I’m looking forward to seeing them on the 24th. A Polish friend is coming to the game because he wants to see Zyro. I hope he isn’t disappointed.
I think 3 windows is enough to say it's 100% his squad, he knew exactly what constraints he'd be working under when he took the job.
Did he really? Roly is a slippery bastard, and I doubt he told Karl the truth. Karl's book'll be interesting.
I’ve defended Robinson a lot this season but what I can’t accept is that he didn’t know what he was getting into or what to expect.
He’d slagged off the way the club was being run himself as an opposing manager and he has said that every single person he spoke to before joining tried to warn him off.
I’m disappointed he hasn’t proved a better manager and accept he’s been working under some constraints, but he was either naive or stupidly arrogant not to think he wouldn’t have those constraints.
Robinson's answers at the Bromley meeting amounted to the fact he knew what he was getting in to, although tbf he would have not known to what level.
That aside, I found him very likeable and approachable.
Yeah I feel like he should have known what he was getting in to, but the level of degrees is another thing. The prolonged takeover attempts have made things different than they would have been if that weren't still going on. That's of course not to say they would have been good, they wouldn't, but I think it's added another degree of difficulty.
That said, if Robinson left tomorrow, and I hope he doesn't if for no other reason than I'm afraid we'd hire literally no one, I would still regard him as doing a very good job, all things considered, in the transfer windows. It will be his short comings as a coach that I'll remember.
completely agree and made a similar statement recently. He has his favoured formation and signs players suited to that formation. The likes of Fosu and Dasilva in particular have been great signings. He has certainly made more good ones than poor.
However, he lacks an alternative and it makes us easy to prepare for. His stubborness and lack of plan B will limit him to being a decent manager rather than a good one.
To what extent is the squad Karl’s squad. He helped out the regime (and us I guess) by rigorously pruning the one he inherited, and he’s brought in four (?) players and some loanees. He’s done that without spending much at all.
But I think he’d probably claim that given some financial backing his squad might be stronger - hopefully physically as well as in terms of depth. He has said he lacks an athletic/strong midfielder.
I’m not really sure that it’s 100% Karl’s squad is it?
Either way he should probably getting more wins out of them.
If Robinson gets us promoted with this squad it will be nothing short of a miracle.
Our defence is shocking as are our options up front.
Our squad is easily amongst the 3-4 best in the division. Certainly better than Shrewsbury and Scunthorpe, not to mention in the summer we signed 2 of Bradford's best players from last year and they're still above us!
Have you watched much league one footy outside of Charlton? Shrewsbury have got an excellent defence, far better than ours. Scunny are overall probably even with us.
I would say we have three or four players who are good enough to get us out of this league.
How many of our current players, excluding loans would have got in to Powell's league winning team? My opinion is two! Pearce for Taylor and Fosu for Green/Wagstaff.
It was an odd choice to bring in two additional wide men on loan. It's clear that is not what we are lacking....
It's a shame, because if Robinson had been given some dosh to spend I think he'd got us out of this league.
They're performing better than us, there's no doubt about that. But the point is about the overall squad. Our squad is (on paper) way better than Shrewsbury! We have internationals, youth internationals, guys with experience in much higher divisions. Shrewsbury's squad (aside from their loan players) are almost all from the lower leagues and non league.
Unfortunately for your argument they have players brought in from Man Utd, Swansea and Burnley (Prem) and from Reading, Wolves, Derby, Sheffield Utd, Barnsley and two from Norwich (Championship). They have loan players, the same as we do @Chris_from_Sidcup
Might be an idea to save the anti Robbo stuff until the end of the season.
Shrewsbury’s defence is ‘better’ than ours because they have a manager and coaching team that organises them brilliantly. Man for man they are not better than ours, but collectively they are.
They also score plenty of late goals to WIN games. Another sign of good management and team mentality. In the last 15 minutes of games this season Shrewsbury and us have both scored 10 goals, but they’ve conceded 4. We’ve conceded 14!
Agreed. The fact that they score late in games so often speaks volumes for their mentality. I bet when they go a goal up they continue to press forward. I’m looking forward to seeing them on the 24th. A Polish friend is coming to the game because he wants to see Zyro. I hope he isn’t disappointed.
I think 3 windows is enough to say it's 100% his squad, he knew exactly what constraints he'd be working under when he took the job.
Did he really? Roly is a slippery bastard, and I doubt he told Karl the truth. Karl's book'll be interesting.
I’ve defended Robinson a lot this season but what I can’t accept is that he didn’t know what he was getting into or what to expect.
He’d slagged off the way the club was being run himself as an opposing manager and he has said that every single person he spoke to before joining tried to warn him off.
I’m disappointed he hasn’t proved a better manager and accept he’s been working under some constraints, but he was either naive or stupidly arrogant not to think he wouldn’t have those constraints.
Robinson's answers at the Bromley meeting amounted to the fact he knew what he was getting in to, although tbf he would have not known to what level.
That aside, I found him very likeable and approachable.
Yeah I feel like he should have known what he was getting in to, but the level of degrees is another thing. The prolonged takeover attempts have made things different than they would have been if that weren't still going on. That's of course not to say they would have been good, they wouldn't, but I think it's added another degree of difficulty.
That said, if Robinson left tomorrow, and I hope he doesn't if for no other reason than I'm afraid we'd hire literally no one, I would still regard him as doing a very good job, all things considered, in the transfer windows. It will be his short comings as a coach that I'll remember.
To what extent is the squad Karl’s squad. He helped out the regime (and us I guess) by rigorously pruning the one he inherited, and he’s brought in four (?) players and some loanees. He’s done that without spending much at all.
But I think he’d probably claim that given some financial backing his squad might be stronger - hopefully physically as well as in terms of depth. He has said he lacks an athletic/strong midfielder.
I’m not really sure that it’s 100% Karl’s squad is it?
Either way he should probably getting more wins out of them.
If Robinson gets us promoted with this squad it will be nothing short of a miracle.
Our defence is shocking as are our options up front.
Our squad is easily amongst the 3-4 best in the division. Certainly better than Shrewsbury and Scunthorpe, not to mention in the summer we signed 2 of Bradford's best players from last year and they're still above us!
Have you watched much league one footy outside of Charlton? Shrewsbury have got an excellent defence, far better than ours. Scunny are overall probably even with us.
I would say we have three or four players who are good enough to get us out of this league.
How many of our current players, excluding loans would have got in to Powell's league winning team? My opinion is two! Pearce for Taylor and Fosu for Green/Wagstaff.
It was an odd choice to bring in two additional wide men on loan. It's clear that is not what we are lacking....
It's a shame, because if Robinson had been given some dosh to spend I think he'd got us out of this league.
They're performing better than us, there's no doubt about that. But the point is about the overall squad. Our squad is (on paper) way better than Shrewsbury! We have internationals, youth internationals, guys with experience in much higher divisions. Shrewsbury's squad (aside from their loan players) are almost all from the lower leagues and non league.
Unfortunately for your argument they have players brought in from Man Utd, Swansea and Burnley (Prem) and from Reading, Wolves, Derby, Sheffield Utd, Barnsley and two from Norwich (Championship). They have loan players, the same as we do @Chris_from_Sidcup
Might be an idea to save the anti Robbo stuff until the end of the season.
Shrewsbury’s defence is ‘better’ than ours because they have a manager and coaching team that organises them brilliantly. Man for man they are not better than ours, but collectively they are.
They also score plenty of late goals to WIN games. Another sign of good management and team mentality. In the last 15 minutes of games this season Shrewsbury and us have both scored 10 goals, but they’ve conceded 4. We’ve conceded 14!
Agreed. The fact that they score late in games so often speaks volumes for their mentality. I bet when they go a goal up they continue to press forward. I’m looking forward to seeing them on the 24th. A Polish friend is coming to the game because he wants to see Zyro. I hope he isn’t disappointed.
I think 3 windows is enough to say it's 100% his squad, he knew exactly what constraints he'd be working under when he took the job.
Did he really? Roly is a slippery bastard, and I doubt he told Karl the truth. Karl's book'll be interesting.
I’ve defended Robinson a lot this season but what I can’t accept is that he didn’t know what he was getting into or what to expect.
He’d slagged off the way the club was being run himself as an opposing manager and he has said that every single person he spoke to before joining tried to warn him off.
I’m disappointed he hasn’t proved a better manager and accept he’s been working under some constraints, but he was either naive or stupidly arrogant not to think he wouldn’t have those constraints.
Robinson's answers at the Bromley meeting amounted to the fact he knew what he was getting in to, although tbf he would have not known to what level.
That aside, I found him very likeable and approachable.
Yeah I feel like he should have known what he was getting in to, but the level of degrees is another thing. The prolonged takeover attempts have made things different than they would have been if that weren't still going on. That's of course not to say they would have been good, they wouldn't, but I think it's added another degree of difficulty.
That said, if Robinson left tomorrow, and I hope he doesn't if for no other reason than I'm afraid we'd hire literally no one, I would still regard him as doing a very good job, all things considered, in the transfer windows. It will be his short comings as a coach that I'll remember.
To what extent is the squad Karl’s squad. He helped out the regime (and us I guess) by rigorously pruning the one he inherited, and he’s brought in four (?) players and some loanees. He’s done that without spending much at all.
But I think he’d probably claim that given some financial backing his squad might be stronger - hopefully physically as well as in terms of depth. He has said he lacks an athletic/strong midfielder.
I’m not really sure that it’s 100% Karl’s squad is it?
Either way he should probably getting more wins out of them.
If Robinson gets us promoted with this squad it will be nothing short of a miracle.
Our defence is shocking as are our options up front.
Our squad is easily amongst the 3-4 best in the division. Certainly better than Shrewsbury and Scunthorpe, not to mention in the summer we signed 2 of Bradford's best players from last year and they're still above us!
Have you watched much league one footy outside of Charlton? Shrewsbury have got an excellent defence, far better than ours. Scunny are overall probably even with us.
I would say we have three or four players who are good enough to get us out of this league.
How many of our current players, excluding loans would have got in to Powell's league winning team? My opinion is two! Pearce for Taylor and Fosu for Green/Wagstaff.
It was an odd choice to bring in two additional wide men on loan. It's clear that is not what we are lacking....
It's a shame, because if Robinson had been given some dosh to spend I think he'd got us out of this league.
They're performing better than us, there's no doubt about that. But the point is about the overall squad. Our squad is (on paper) way better than Shrewsbury! We have internationals, youth internationals, guys with experience in much higher divisions. Shrewsbury's squad (aside from their loan players) are almost all from the lower leagues and non league.
Unfortunately for your argument they have players brought in from Man Utd, Swansea and Burnley (Prem) and from Reading, Wolves, Derby, Sheffield Utd, Barnsley and two from Norwich (Championship). They have loan players, the same as we do @Chris_from_Sidcup
Might be an idea to save the anti Robbo stuff until the end of the season.
Shrewsbury’s defence is ‘better’ than ours because they have a manager and coaching team that organises them brilliantly. Man for man they are not better than ours, but collectively they are.
They also score plenty of late goals to WIN games. Another sign of good management and team mentality. In the last 15 minutes of games this season Shrewsbury and us have both scored 10 goals, but they’ve conceded 4. We’ve conceded 14!
Agreed. The fact that they score late in games so often speaks volumes for their mentality. I bet when they go a goal up they continue to press forward. I’m looking forward to seeing them on the 24th. A Polish friend is coming to the game because he wants to see Zyro. I hope he isn’t disappointed.
I think 3 windows is enough to say it's 100% his squad, he knew exactly what constraints he'd be working under when he took the job.
Did he really? Roly is a slippery bastard, and I doubt he told Karl the truth. Karl's book'll be interesting.
I’ve defended Robinson a lot this season but what I can’t accept is that he didn’t know what he was getting into or what to expect.
He’d slagged off the way the club was being run himself as an opposing manager and he has said that every single person he spoke to before joining tried to warn him off.
I’m disappointed he hasn’t proved a better manager and accept he’s been working under some constraints, but he was either naive or stupidly arrogant not to think he wouldn’t have those constraints.
Robinson's answers at the Bromley meeting amounted to the fact he knew what he was getting in to, although tbf he would have not known to what level.
That aside, I found him very likeable and approachable.
Yeah I feel like he should have known what he was getting in to, but the level of degrees is another thing. The prolonged takeover attempts have made things different than they would have been if that weren't still going on. That's of course not to say they would have been good, they wouldn't, but I think it's added another degree of difficulty.
That said, if Robinson left tomorrow, and I hope he doesn't if for no other reason than I'm afraid we'd hire literally no one, I would still regard him as doing a very good job, all things considered, in the transfer windows. It will be his short comings as a coach that I'll remember.
completely agree and made a similar statement recently. He has his favoured formation and signs players suited to that formation. The likes of Fosu and Dasilva in particular have been great signings. He has certainly made more good ones than poor.
However, he lacks an alternative and it makes us easy to prepare for. His stubborness and lack of plan B will limit him to being a decent manager rather than a good one.
I'll remember him as trying to play possession and pressing football, which is admirable and incredibly difficult at our level and with our budget. He brought in and helped nurture good footballers. But ultimately he (and his staff because I don't think he's helped by having only two coaches with no experience prior to this year) were not good enough at the way they wanted to play football, and weren't good enough at getting players to transition between different phases of play.
I personally think too much is made of a lack of plan B, because when you're up against 11 men behind the ball for most of a game, a plan B is easier said than done. It's more a matter that plan A wasn't good enough. That we weren't able to dominate enough games from start to finish. That we weren't make our advantages count. That when it came to the attacking third we relied too heavily on individuals to produce moments of brilliance instead of intricate team moves, despite having players well suited to the latter. We have made life far too easy for the League One center backs we've come up against--and I don't think a 4-4-2 with a big man and a little man playing direct changes that (i.e. a plan b). We've let opposition defenders defend with their backs to their own goal far too much and have struggled to turn them (again, hard with teams sitting deep but not impossible).
I'll remember him as trying to play possession and pressing football, which is adorable and incredibly difficult at our level and with our budget. He brought in and helped nurture good footballers. But ultimately he (and his staff because I don't think he's helped by having only two coaches with no experience prior to this year) were not good enough at the way they wanted to play football, and weren't good enough at getting players to transition between different phases of play.
I personally think too much is made of a lack of plan B, because when you're up against 11 men behind the ball for most of a game, a plan B is easier said than done. It's more a matter that plan A wasn't good enough. That we weren't able to dominate enough games from start to finish. That we weren't make our advantages count. That when it came to the attacking third we relied too heavily on individuals to produce moments of brilliance instead of intricate team moves, despite having players well suited to the latter.
I don't. It's not necessarily about changing tactics when your 1-0 down in the 80th minute or 1-0 up, it's also about not playing the same formation for 46 games.
Our opponents can spend all week on the training pitch preparing for our tactics because they're always the same.
Our plan A was reasonably sufficient IMO. Better luck with injuries and a striker who could score and we would be a few places higher easily.
I'll remember him as trying to play possession and pressing football, which is adorable and incredibly difficult at our level and with our budget. He brought in and helped nurture good footballers. But ultimately he (and his staff because I don't think he's helped by having only two coaches with no experience prior to this year) were not good enough at the way they wanted to play football, and weren't good enough at getting players to transition between different phases of play.
I personally think too much is made of a lack of plan B, because when you're up against 11 men behind the ball for most of a game, a plan B is easier said than done. It's more a matter that plan A wasn't good enough. That we weren't able to dominate enough games from start to finish. That we weren't make our advantages count. That when it came to the attacking third we relied too heavily on individuals to produce moments of brilliance instead of intricate team moves, despite having players well suited to the latter.
I don't. It's not necessarily about changing tactics when your 1-0 down in the 80th minute or 1-0 up, it's also about not playing the same formation for 46 games.
Our opponents can spend all week on the training pitch preparing for our tactics because they're always the same.
Our plan A was reasonably sufficient IMO. Better luck with injuries and a striker who could score and we would be a few places higher easily.
I think K the formation thing is a red herring. As far as I know Wigan have always played 4-2-3-1 this year. Shrewsbury have always played 4-1-4-1. How many times did Powell change formation from the start in the title winning side?
I do agree about not being able to change things 0-1 down.
I'll remember him as trying to play possession and pressing football, which is adorable and incredibly difficult at our level and with our budget. He brought in and helped nurture good footballers. But ultimately he (and his staff because I don't think he's helped by having only two coaches with no experience prior to this year) were not good enough at the way they wanted to play football, and weren't good enough at getting players to transition between different phases of play.
I personally think too much is made of a lack of plan B, because when you're up against 11 men behind the ball for most of a game, a plan B is easier said than done. It's more a matter that plan A wasn't good enough. That we weren't able to dominate enough games from start to finish. That we weren't make our advantages count. That when it came to the attacking third we relied too heavily on individuals to produce moments of brilliance instead of intricate team moves, despite having players well suited to the latter.
I don't. It's not necessarily about changing tactics when your 1-0 down in the 80th minute or 1-0 up, it's also about not playing the same formation for 46 games.
Our opponents can spend all week on the training pitch preparing for our tactics because they're always the same.
Our plan A was reasonably sufficient IMO. Better luck with injuries and a striker who could score and we would be a few places higher easily.
I think K the formation thing is a red herring. As far as I know Wigan have always played 4-2-3-1 this year. Shrewsbury have always played 4-1-4-1. How many times did Powell change formation from the start in the title winning side?
I do agree about not being able to change things 0-1 down.
But how often have Shrewsbury and Wigan had to? Robinson has stuck with the same formation and style whether we were unbeaten in 4 or hadn't won in 4.
I see your point that teams can perform without having to change, but the bottom line is we were not one of them. There have been times we were in desperate need of a change and he's just been too stubborn towards his 4231 to even consider it.
Can someone please tell me, realistically, what manager would have done a better job in these circumstances with the budget he had along with dealing with RD and co
Yes, he's made mistakes but Jesus Christ we are 7th in the league 2 points of the play offs with 2 games in hand considering all the crap going on around him!
Can someone please tell me, realistically, what manager would have done a better job in these circumstances with the budget he had along with dealing with RD and co
Yes, he's made mistakes but Jesus Christ we are 7th in the league 2 points of the play offs with 2 games in hand considering all the crap going on around him!
Oh, what because we won the league under completely different circumstances..
The club were in a prolonged downward spin when Powell took over, which he reversed. I’d also say this squad has arguably more quality and monetary value than Powell’s - possibly Kermorgant aside.
Oh, what because we won the league under completely different circumstances..
The club was in a prolonged downward spin when Powell took over, which he reversed. I’d also say this squad has arguably more quality and monetary value than Powell’s - possibly Kermorgant aside.
Granted he did do that, but that was that season under those circumstances.
We are talking this season, and don't agree, Powells squad was much more stronger than this current one and it had a proven league 1 goal scorer
Because rather than saying, were 7th with 2 games in hand and I have made lots of mistakes he keeps telling us how awesome everyone is, how amazing being 7th is, in fact better then getting promotion with his last club. And how much he has acheived but cant tell us what it is.
I am not full of hatred just entirely 'meh' towards him so far.
In the main because he told us how outstanding the owner was and he was going to 'splash the cash', we didnt understand what was going on. The story has now changed to 'poor me' I have done all this on nothing and you wouldnt understand.
I don't get the sympathy for Robinson. It's not as if he walked into a well run club that then went tits up. It's not as if he wasn't warned. He himself called us a 'basket case' while MKD manager. No sympathy from me.
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Yeah agreed, tactically poor.
Would like Damian full time.
I, in reality think it'll probably go to Bowyer.
But part of me hopes that this shitshow goes full circle and Mowgi comes back, perhaps via skype on an open laptop sat on the bench.
I'm sure the pokemon craze is over and he has a bit more time on his hands again.
That said, if Robinson left tomorrow, and I hope he doesn't if for no other reason than I'm afraid we'd hire literally no one, I would still regard him as doing a very good job, all things considered, in the transfer windows. It will be his short comings as a coach that I'll remember.
However, he lacks an alternative and it makes us easy to prepare for. His stubborness and lack of plan B will limit him to being a decent manager rather than a good one.
He had an opportunity to go and speak to them, but decided not to go.
I personally think too much is made of a lack of plan B, because when you're up against 11 men behind the ball for most of a game, a plan B is easier said than done. It's more a matter that plan A wasn't good enough. That we weren't able to dominate enough games from start to finish. That we weren't make our advantages count. That when it came to the attacking third we relied too heavily on individuals to produce moments of brilliance instead of intricate team moves, despite having players well suited to the latter. We have made life far too easy for the League One center backs we've come up against--and I don't think a 4-4-2 with a big man and a little man playing direct changes that (i.e. a plan b). We've let opposition defenders defend with their backs to their own goal far too much and have struggled to turn them (again, hard with teams sitting deep but not impossible).
I personally think too much is made of a lack of plan B, because when you're up against 11 men behind the ball for most of a game, a plan B is easier said than done. It's more a matter that plan A wasn't good enough. That we weren't able to dominate enough games from start to finish. That we weren't make our advantages count. That when it came to the attacking third we relied too heavily on individuals to produce moments of brilliance instead of intricate team moves, despite having players well suited to the latter.
I don't. It's not necessarily about changing tactics when your 1-0 down in the 80th minute or 1-0 up, it's also about not playing the same formation for 46 games.
Our opponents can spend all week on the training pitch preparing for our tactics because they're always the same.
Our plan A was reasonably sufficient IMO. Better luck with injuries and a striker who could score and we would be a few places higher easily.
Our opponents can spend all week on the training pitch preparing for our tactics because they're always the same.
Our plan A was reasonably sufficient IMO. Better luck with injuries and a striker who could score and we would be a few places higher easily.
I think K the formation thing is a red herring. As far as I know Wigan have always played 4-2-3-1 this year. Shrewsbury have always played 4-1-4-1. How many times did Powell change formation from the start in the title winning side?
I do agree about not being able to change things 0-1 down.
I do agree about not being able to change things 0-1 down.
But how often have Shrewsbury and Wigan had to? Robinson has stuck with the same formation and style whether we were unbeaten in 4 or hadn't won in 4.
I see your point that teams can perform without having to change, but the bottom line is we were not one of them. There have been times we were in desperate need of a change and he's just been too stubborn towards his 4231 to even consider it.
Can someone please tell me, realistically, what manager would have done a better job in these circumstances with the budget he had along with dealing with RD and co
Yes, he's made mistakes but Jesus Christ we are 7th in the league 2 points of the play offs with 2 games in hand considering all the crap going on around him!
If it was CP, you'd all be signing his praises
We are talking this season, and don't agree, Powells squad was much more stronger than this current one and it had a proven league 1 goal scorer
I am not full of hatred just entirely 'meh' towards him so far.
In the main because he told us how outstanding the owner was and he was going to 'splash the cash', we didnt understand what was going on. The story has now changed
to 'poor me' I have done all this on nothing and you wouldnt understand.